t yst r Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 This is 100% Autechre sound with imagery, right? New album material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 So I couldn't figure out what it was doing yesterday. Music didn't seem to be reacting to visual changes at all, and vice versa.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieselguhr kid Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 this is so good right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misuta Go Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 On 5/4/2020 at 12:22 AM, Amen Lare said: I made a pissnoise track out of a small fragment of the first stream (added external melodic layer for the flow), thanks to bitroast for uploading and user James Kelly for highlighting one of the cool parts in the comment section i luv it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 6 hours ago, Soloman Tump said: So I couldn't figure out what it was doing yesterday. Music didn't seem to be reacting to visual changes at all, and vice versa.... from twitch chat, some illumination perhaps: Broadcaster4utechre: all the synths are just playing whatevers in the frame at that point Broadcaster4utechre: it scans the frame line by line top to bottom Broadcaster4utechre: r g b are 3 diff channels so i use all 3 but i put red stuff lower, green around the mid and blue for the cooler feeling higher stuff, idk i did it by taste Broadcaster4utechre: and then combine the 3 and the output is the oscilattor out Broadcaster4utechre: the frame is actually 3 diff matrices overlaid if you like, r g and b Broadcaster4utechre: so i can use all 3 so i used a crossover to split them across the spectrum Broadcaster4utechre: 2 crossovers Broadcaster4utechre: so i put red stuff lower freq, green stuff is sort of melodic midrange, and blue is anything above that Broadcaster4utechre: i did it to how the sort of warm/cool axis works around sounds in my head idk Broadcaster4utechre: yeah _: So, can you dial in colours, or are they chosen randomly Broadcaster4utechre: its an algorithm Broadcaster4utechre: colour is p interesting it turns out Broadcaster4utechre: i like colour best of all the things i got into doing this Broadcaster4utechre: the visuals are being controlled by certain events but its minimal interaction Broadcaster4utechre: mostly its about the image changing the sound _: I guess I’m curious how the visuals are informing the audio if the algorithm is taking the music into account. Is it a feedback loop? Broadcaster4utechre: its luminance across all 3 clour planes _: So i dont think s ean programmed key changes Broadcaster4utechre: yeah the key i just set Broadcaster4utechre: i can make it keep changing but u might feel sick after a bit ... (edit: discussion is going on rn actually...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieselguhr kid Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 today's track seems much more varied than the ones before, constantly morphing and evolving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Broadcaster4utechre: all the oscillators in all the synths (incl drums) are reading the same wavetable are their respective frequencies Broadcaster4utechre: it reads what's on the screen the same way a tv shows an image Broadcaster4utechre: line by line, across and down Broadcaster4utechre: each full frame is one cycle Broadcaster4utechre: but as the oscillators are going at different rates sometimes the data in the wavetable changes before a cycle is complete Broadcaster4utechre: it interpolates pretty well though _: So the linear vector of RGB values is the wavetable? What triggers the envelopes? Broadcaster4utechre: am just using stock objects to do this Broadcaster4utechre: all the sequencing etc is just existing stuff, as were the synths before i swapped in these oscillators Broadcaster4utechre: i mean the music is new but the patches used to sequence are existing _: ahhh yeh so there's still a sequence of on off in each synth yeh? Broadcaster4utechre: yeah the synths and drums etc are all doing what they would do anyway, just the wavetable in all the oscillators is changing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzkinz Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 I know it’s been said a lot here, but the stuff today is really top notch music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 A snippet of chat with a few words about methods how many layers do you usually have in your tracks? 4utechre: always in 3s tebbisimo: se an do u ever think the birds whistle back to you 4utechre: all same patter tebbisimo: cos i think theyn are tebbisimo: tri repetae guys its gd for u tebbisimo: and rotate nice n stuff tebbisimo: damn u make it sound easy 4utechre: layers idk what layers even are in max its all so gluey tebbisimo: welll if you slow elseq down tebbisimo: its like complete slices 4utechre: but i dont generally mix through many 'channels' elehphoo: That explains why you need 3 laptops for a bassline nixtrove: Its like a big onion so many layers man emskidoodlepip: this backface culling is gorgeous tebbisimo: each sound islike on its own 4utechre: not that it means anything any more especially with mc 4utechre: but also with poly~ etc tebbisimo: mc?? tebbisimo: mind control?? tebbisimo: sjeeeeeet tebbisimo: i knew it slacktheplanet: lol Vueaou: ur jam folder sounded almost like release tebbisimo: se an part of MK ultra confirmed Vueaou: i was like whaaaa 4utechre: im like talking to one person lol 2020pizza: hi tebbisimo: hi tebbisimo: se an if a lorry drives past u see a co lour or just music slacktheplanet: lol evilslob666: its just your cat tebbisimo: dont bring my pussy into thi tebbisimo: hey Daniella and aleksey are awfully quiet 4utechre: idk probably not just a matter of using enough cpu really but mc is making things accessible sooner Vueaou: guys feel tired and bit of sick, gota sleep. cya. thanks everyone for chat n unban stuff, cya , Se4n have a good one < 3 tebbisimo: what is this!>?? slacktheplanet: np cya vu elehphoo: Cya vu Vueaou: teb@ i always do lol 4utechre: idk theres no usual really with me can be 99% or 5% tebbisimo: cant kid a kidda 4utechre: depending on methods instrumentsdisorder: i've been wondering if there's any reason to use poly~ instead of mc besides just that i'm used to it 4utechre: not particularly elehphoo: Do you ever miss busting out the R8 or Monomachine? instrumentsdisorder: but i don't really understand mc very well tebbisimo: yeh do u miss gear and knobs man 4utechre: mainly just expansion of what was there more channels, porting a chunk of it to m4l 4utechre: there are like 4 concurrent systems now emskidoodlepip: i've been teaching myself max/msp for a month or two after i treated myself to a subscription under lockdown... how was the learning curve, for those here that are experienced with it? any advice for getting to grips? nixtrove: this is slightly tilted 4utechre: i mean mine and robs and this thing im mutating into a video thing and the m4 things, oh and robs m4l things so i guess 5 now instrumentsdisorder: the basic tutorials and documentation are indispensable tbh miunau: the mc aggregate control messages are nice, i use harmonic a ton instrumentsdisorder: also if you can phrase your question right, searching the forums is always a good idea imo elixir315: this rips 4utechre: yeah its all a bit mad but we can manage this stuff p easy now emskidoodlepip: i've been following the inbuilt ones thus far, yeah. they're brilliant nixtrove: nice man 4utechre: yeah always do tutorials im learing a lot in like idk been doing this 4 days now knivstik: whats m4 things? instrumentsdisorder: a big part of learning for me was opening up the tutorials and going ham on them with what i already know 4utechre: the opengl stuff anyway emskidoodlepip: ah, that's a good idea! an empty patch is just really intimidating for me right now, but tinkering with pre-built ones sounds like it could teach me a lot instrumentsdisorder: also greg taylor's sequencing book is really great tiltifgibbersebb: is there any relation between this and the confield art? dopplir: The Tom hall YouTube workshop from a few weeks ago was really good instrumentsdisorder: https://people.ohio.edu/phillipm/MaxResources.html emskidoodlepip: @knivstik thank you! i take it that it's from scratch? 4utechre: yeah u know when u realise all those 2d processes that are a bit choppy on video are actually useful with gl dopplir: You can follow that along as a complete beginner instrumentsdisorder: omg yes knivstik: and very well explained dopplir: Even though there’s some advanced stuff in there 4utechre: im enjoying jitter it feels like its made to be fun knivstik: do you reuse a lot of your modules? instrumentsdisorder: s mentioned reading manuals, i learned a lot personally by recreating common synth configurations from hardware in the box nixtrove: on the phone with cycling 74 they said to use more snare rolls elixir315: lol slacktheplanet: they always say that knivstik: if so do you have some sort of strategy for keeping a standard for the input the modules take? 4utechre: yeah 4utechre: we do instrumentsdisorder: oh yeah they said they don't use MIDI anymore instrumentsdisorder: so i imagine they have their own protocol instrumentsdisorder: i have dreams about it Noneuclidean: no need for tdr anymore just take screenshots from this stream for album covers 5474n01d: did you see that the guy who made the plyPhon fan music video uploaded a 4K high quality version of it few days back? knivstik: can you explain some more about this standard? nixtrove: that music vifro is dope nixtrove: video nixtrove: very accurate instrumentsdisorder: i built a thing to "load patches on the downbeat", as it were. thx for that one s :3 instrumentsdisorder: except the thing i built loads them on the note-off tebbisimo: se an if we bought NTS are we allowed to sample it? 4utechre: i mean u can but i dont own the rights to it tebbisimo: ah shit yeh 4utechre: they prob dont want you to tebbisimo: they prob can never work it out tho eh danzdanz: 4utechre: my views on sampling are not the laws view tebbisimo: good enough for me slacktheplanet: boss nixtrove: one my fav track is Lowride tebbisimo: just didnt wanna be a cnt knivstik: are you still making music in sunvox? slacktheplanet: dont ask you dont get tebbisimo: it nice to jam with u cause you got this weird angularity that realllllly jams with me u kno tebbisimo: exactly instrumentsdisorder: i wonder how much of the oversteps sequencing informs your modern sequencing 4utechre: i think if ur gonna draw a line anywhere with sampling it should be on does the sample stop people buying the roiginal, like are they gonna buy the sampled one instead 4utechre: if thats what it is then yeah idk maybe too far tebbisimo: hahah nah i think ppl like u 4 u m8 emskidoodlepip: ooh, that's a good maxim... i'll use that hedgehog_legs: Nice. tebbisimo: who the f am i instrumentsdisorder: that's a good place to draw the line nixtrove: Have you ever used an amen break s34n? instrumentsdisorder: can you please include in your will the source of the deco Loc samples tebbisimo: haha thats why theres 2 albums coming @nixtrove 4utechre: yeah we did not saying on what though 4utechre: amens tebbisimo: theyre doing Luke VIbert style 4utechre: also its funny how no one ever noticed tebbisimo: owww shiiit nixtrove: i never noticed hahahaha xD nixtrove: i will keep digging you mreurostile: lol haha hedgehog_legs: Haha. 4utechre: i checked the samples on that lockdown loops thing lukes done, right good tebbisimo: yehhhhhh tebbisimo: bought them straight away slacktheplanet: yeah man 4utechre: almost made me want to make some loop music tebbisimo: se an cant u do some gonks like that tebbisimo: pleeeease mate tebbisimo: do it slacktheplanet: lol evilslob666: lol tebbisimo: 4 charity elixir315: tebbisimo: charge silly money and give it to homeless tebbisimo: and half u or whatever tebbisimo: id snap em up that would be sickl knivstik: how often do you start a new max patch from scratch? 4utechre: yeah i need to dig into that thing 4utechre: all had that shuffle lol tebbisimo: bandcamp man tebbisimo: on the Skam bit tebbisimo: ah nah thats bleep too ennit tebbisimo: just make up some BS 4utechre: i love bandcamp tebbisimo: we'll find ya tebbisimo: we'll sniff youn out. its the best man instrumentsdisorder: 6852 is a massive tune tebbisimo: I just hate they are now in bed with paypal tebbisimo: I cant order Vinyls now instrumentsdisorder: rip tebbisimo: some are wise to it and say email them but 4utechre: yeah idk about paypal dopplir: Ever make a zero-context Bandcamp find? 4utechre: i just like it for finding cool shit emskidoodlepip: @tebbisimo what'd i miss with them and paypal?? instrumentsdisorder: what have you been listening to? slacktheplanet: yeah its begining of the end slacktheplanet: bandcamp 2.0 needed enwave64: yeah, i feel like i've been getting more and more music just from bandcamp 4utechre: so much easier on there than anywhere else rn idk why rn its just weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 ^^^ something went wrong with the copy / paste .. let's take it as a vertical tribute to quaristice ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stock Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Quote shminstreams: watmm is full of nerdy boomers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 lol. also yo, sean in full aaa mode today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 https://www.twitch.tv/4utechre/clip/VibrantOilyTirePermaSmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 moments in love https://we.tl/t-0YkSpDumOb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchard disk Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 they back on with the next evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 yup, fresh vibe. also those visual transitions... mmmh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colunga Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 lovin the stuff today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzkinz Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I'd be happy to see some of the visualizations from this past week used as an album cover. I'm pretty tired of the black&white jagged geometry that tDR have been stuck on for the past ~decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 vibes for days. day long vibes.. loong vibe days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splesh Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Is anyone ripping this? Please don't forget to keep me in the loop, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Lare Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, splesh said: Is anyone ripping this? Please don't forget to keep me in the loop, my friends! bitroast usually uploads these streams, all the videos are on his channel: On 4/27/2020 at 5:47 AM, ignatius said: 8 hours of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splesh Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Thanks Amen Lare, but it's mostly the stuff that sounds like S&R making new sounds and the CG shapes I'm after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Lare Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, splesh said: Thanks Amen Lare, but it's mostly the stuff that sounds like S&R making new sounds and the CG shapes I'm after Just look at the latest videos on that channel. And it's not S&R, it's only S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateHold Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 So is it over for real now edit: no it was not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 wash your brain https://we.tl/t-kSYG14h9yr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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