t yst r Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 That takes some foreknowledge to be able to see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 death to the new flesh long live to twitchdrome https://we.tl/t-rLtnoh9gfQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t yst r Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 19 hours ago, jaderpansen said: ? Yep, I knew it was that, but I meant that it's hard to make out if you don't know what you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 4utechre: Tbh it’s the same jam I just left it running 4utechre: Have fun enjoy the outside fffreddy_: I figured you'd have taken the stream down by now to make changes 4utechre: Not too much obviously 4utechre: Yeah I was gonna take a break today 4utechre: Could just leave it as a perma installation gokuroku420: would be cool gokuroku420: have several different ones running fffreddy_: You think you might incorporate some Jitter stuff into your future albums/live sets? 4utechre: No plans to use any of this yet I only started messing with jitter a few weeks ago and this OpenGL stuff last week 4utechre: But am having loads of fun fffreddy_: Using the Twitch chat as textures for the models was an A+ idea 4utechre: It’s how we did the confield sleeve. Rob did some videos, the sleeve was a still from one of them, made same way, video textures mapped onto little objects 4utechre: I wasn’t really messing with video back then but rob did some cool stuff 4utechre: Back then I was still using whatever that paint type thing was called in max where you draw rectangles and circles etc 4utechre: It was shit fffreddy_: I remember reading about you guys experimenting with CG images in some interview, but I didn't know that's how you did the cover for Confield fffreddy_: neat 4utechre: I actually have some mutant version of the liccflii patch somewhere that had accompanying visuals made with that drawing thing 4utechre: All diff coloured shapes flying about. Lots of squares. Prob couldn’t use it now cos Tom did something similar since 4utechre: Idk if I ever showed him that 4utechre: Anyway when I got this going Rob was wanting to do loads but I steamed in on here. He’s setting up an alt account anyway but idk when he’s gonna use it 4utechre: So we’ll have at least 2 going, but idk what any if it’s for yet. So far it’s just for corona boredom relief fffreddy_: sick fffreddy_: looking forward to it ymlacio: getting fuck all work done tbh 4utechre: This is the closest I can get to working right now 4utechre: Learning is way easier than meeting deadlines right now for some reason fffreddy_: I'd say learning a new skill counts as being productive ymlacio: hopefully deadlines will melt away after all this fffreddy_: Even if you might not use the knowledge right away 4utechre: Yeah I’m sort of protected by doing video stuff I can tell myself it’s not important or whatever but still finding cool shit to do which is the whole point of everything anyway 4utechre: Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 that's some prospect alright, thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 If the "deadlines" are getting the album finished, then get on with it FFS j/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 All work and no play makes Sean a dull boy https://we.tl/t-cbqOwNjmTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markedone Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 makes sense that they're cool with sharing the video / experimental work, it doesn't have the pressure of being considered an autechre album or whatever that implies. for that reason I was disappointed that there were articles "reporting" new album in the works (quoting richard devine posting a screenshot on twitter).. when they were just being honest and chatting with fans.. better to leave it to fans in the know and report when there is actual news when they decide to package something up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 serious space travel flotsam: https://we.tl/t-cbqOwNjmTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Draft78 said: serious space travel flotsam: https://we.tl/t-cbqOwNjmTE ^^wrong link, it's from yesterday^^ today: https://we.tl/t-aYBbbHxLTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 I've spent what feels like an unhealthy amount of time in there today. Time for a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4utechre: Still me been tweaking all day 4utechre: Gonna sleep now leave running elixir315: ❰ ▟▛ ▛▚▞▜ ██ ❰ ▟▛ ▞▚ ❰ ▟▛ ██ ▞▚ ▛▚▞▜ ▙▄ ❰ ▟▛ ▛▚▞▜ ██ ❰ ▟▛ ▞▚ ❰ ▟▛ ██ ▞▚ ▛▚▞▜ ▙▄ ❰ ▟▛ ▛▚▞▜ ██ ❰ ▟▛ ▞▚ ❰ ▟▛ ██ ▞▚ ▛▚▞▜ ▙▄ ❰ ▟▛ ▛▚▞▜ ██ ❰ ▟▛ ▞▚ ❰ ▟▛ ██ ▞▚ ▛▚▞▜ ▙▄ ❰ ▟▛ ▛▚▞▜ ██ ❰ ▟▛ ▞▚ ❰ ▟▛ ██ ▞▚ ▛▚▞▜ ▙▄ ❰ ▟▛ ▛▚▞▜ ██ ❰ ▟▛ ▞▚ ❰ ▟▛ ██ ▞▚ ▛▚▞▜ ▙▄ ❰ ▟▛ ▛▚▞▜ ██ ❰ ▟▛ ▞▚ ❰ ▟▛ ██ ▞▚ ▛▚▞▜ ▙▄ 4utechre: Rob did say he was gonna do a channel but idk when he’s doing loads of stuff besides 4utechre: Have fun don’t stare all night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I returned yesterday after supper and hung around until 1 a.m. local time, it had definitely calmed down then though. Woke up to find it still going at more or less the same pace. Yesterday afternoon it was sounding pretty wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 still p surreal that this is happening.. much love ae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4utechre: huh i popped every filter at same time 4utechre: just rebooting yhancik: ae35u: don't worry, my ears have been disgraced for many years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (...) 4utechre: everyone else can be a noise artist ccribbe: have you shown any of this to chris cunningam yet 4utechre: chris would prob just laugh 4utechre: its all max and jitter this metacodex4: to insert some boring grey brutalism textures martybyrnemusic: class 4utechre: the audio all derives from the video signal uviol8: i believen you reverred 2 it as the system 4utechre: so its a sort of group composition rephlexwest: afternoon all metacodex4: the audio is generated by the video itself ??? 4utechre: it sounds better if post lots of coloured emotes uviol8: i mean pure the music nixtrove: Weirdcore melted my brain once. its total overload ... 4utechre: yeah all the synths are using the video signal as data 4utechre: also the drums but u cant tell as much metacodex4: wow it really changes metacodex4: maybe the velocity ? uviol8: Ow Interesting metacodex4: maybe you should write this into the description or so martybyrnemusic: Lovely uviol8: it's cool if u don't wanna Say 4utechre: yeah its a bit of a long description though 4utechre: not really into describing things 4utechre: but i can tell u how it works uviol8: ok gonna be a big One? metacodex4: only this i mean ; ) thetwistedprocess: thought it was the reverse relation bamTommyS: i'd like to hear it bamTommyS: if you don't mind saying 4utechre: pretty simple just swapped out the oscillators in a load of synths with a custom oscillator based on jit.peek~ metacodex4: i always wanted to acompany my music with visuals, i hope its not that complicated nixtrove: i knew they were jit oscillators metacodex4: awesome thanks !!! 4utechre: the custom osc is actually 3 oscillators bamTommyS: what does colour do? 4utechre: so basically there are 3 colour channels, r g b metacodex4: ah ok 4utechre: and each channel has its own oscillator uviol8: can i ask musical question? how did u do All End ccribbe: what a simple question^ metacodex4: loool bamTommyS: that's cool, and weirdly simple metacodex4: paulstretch nixtrove: Red sounds tight metacodex4: its evolving ! nixtrove: You could like hold a sustain pedal and bring up some strings or winds on a keyboard and layer notes and boom nixtrove: All end metacodex4: kick is louder now ! 4utechre: the 3 oscillators are mixed using a kind of crossover tebbisimo: how does the crossover work, cos my man was complaining it just picks the like, dominant Freak tebbisimo: or spectrum or whatever 4utechre: so the red is lowest freq and blue is highest, green in the mid tebbisimo: like there was no nuance for him 4utechre: did it by ear/taste/feel martybyrnemusic: so is red : more bass? 4utechre: sort of 4utechre: it depends 4utechre: like how ur then filtering the output of the osc uviol8: u asked for red blue indeed, martybyrnemusic: aha 4utechre: but yeah in general yellow sounds warm and colourful, red is war, blue is cool uviol8: what was White 4 mrgypsum: i really like that the visuals have all been pretty varied on this channel there was like old bbc stuff and now stuff like this good diversity of stuff metacodex4: if you would insert yoru faces you would get sort of an a e puzzle 4utechre: *warm nixtrove: yellow rocks this one tebbisimo: u said Robs gonna do a twitch???? 4utechre: if you had only once oscillatr yeah u can re-encode into an image tebbisimo: whats his called 8utechre martybyrnemusic: hehe, red is war! Could be interesting... Certain colours dominating triggering some really wild card moments. 4utechre: but becasue there are many oscillators you get many overlaid differently scaled images 4utechre: bt still u can sometimes make out the source tebbisimo: no ketchup tebbisimo: raw source nixtrove: so the oscillators are modulating each other? martybyrnemusic: yellow is doing some cool filtering it seems 4utechre: theres one fm synth in there 4utechre: doing the sort of chirp sound nixtrove: i hear it its nice 4utechre: the rest are just straight what youd call digi subtractive 4utechre: but with this mutant jit.peek~ osc ting nixtrove: long the random sustains nixtrove: love tebbisimo: and u upgraded the reverb eh tebbisimo: cos some times its like corrr 4utechre: ah yeah 4utechre: its not really a reverb tebbisimo: wot issit 4utechre: but it can do some reverby sounding things tebbisimo: haha tebbisimo: its a delay tebbisimo: wait rephlexwest: how would the patch respond to the tri repetae green/brown/grey color I wonder nixtrove: its like EG nixtrove: isnt it 4utechre: yeah sort of compound delay thing bamTommyS: can we ask how you made other tracks? 4utechre: bit more configurable than a reverb but similar topology tebbisimo: isnt reverb just a v small delay AnotherJimmy: Is this just having fun or would you release anything based on this? nixtrove: thats pretty cool as well 4utechre: theres tons of ways to do it tbh 4utechre: but yeha usually combs delays and apfs nixtrove: do any colora affect this delay? tebbisimo: yeh i remember in an interview u were like nixtrove: s tebbisimo: We just route off into delays and reverbs like x100 tebbisimo: and we sort of lose a bit of track of it all 4utechre: yeah i shove all kinds of random shit in there tebbisimo: niiiice 4utechre: feedback loops supergood tebbisimo: and then just make envelopes around the weirdness nixtrove: there was this cool dissonant pad yesterday for a hot minute tebbisimo: "just" martybyrnemusic: so you mean, you've a load of different oscs / synths / beats etc going off into many different delay / feedback channels? 4utechre: usually control some aspect of the process in the loop yeah uviol8: can i ask bout music neurone45: dor thos who wants a bit of hint about how reverb works (old and new) : *** 4utechre: yeah when i used hardware was always routing things in weird nonlinear ways tebbisimo: yeh i noticed in the machinedrum tebbisimo: like wtf diurn_: hello good morning all tebbisimo: how u do dat tebbisimo: mornin cognessence: Good morning pobelterzzzz: does anyone know if they use FL Studio and what sample pack is this? 4utechre: tbh i seen way more impressive stuff out there than out md bits martybyrnemusic: how long have yous been NOT using hardware? uviol8: mornin 4utechre: for ages now 4utechre: idk tebbisimo: you kinda have to live through it yrself to make sense of it tho eh 4utechre: 10 years nixtrove: s35an any tricks using a nord lead tebbisimo: like I dunno, for me anyway martybyrnemusic: I wondered if maybe yous had mad rigs of modular, but I'm actually chuffed to hear that that's not the case. tebbisimo: why pay 300£ a pop when he can copy and paste from notepad 4utechre: wow u just reminded me of a whole nord lead thing i did in max ages ago 4utechre: might try to revive that tebbisimo: niiiiiiice nixtrove: That is the shit hellospiral: pobelterzzzz: s34n btw that spectral morphing part in the 2016/18 live sets, around 13 mins is my favorite sound i have ever heard, can't get enough of it nixtrove: I picked up a rack version cognessence: Nord Lead 3 so underrated! nixtrove: Got the original it really sounds its time tebbisimo: Are u or Russel undisputed king of the fart noises btw? tebbisimo: or is it a patch u gave Russ tebbisimo: like onesix is very gutteral uviol8: Yeah what's that morphin sound in onesix 4utechre: russ has patches from a few people idk martybyrnemusic: the Nord Lead has a powerful synth engine, right? And I think there's a software editor, so you can get into some deep places 4utechre: i think i only ever made him a dj thing tebbisimo: ahhh fair, I thought he was using ur AE_live bits for Russ_Live nixtrove: pls revive the nord that would be so damn dope 4utechre: the nord lead doesnt need a software editor 4utechre: idk if there is one cognessence: It’s true, the interface is so easy 4utechre: i mean its sort of good because of no menu diving nixtrove: Its a beautiful machine 4utechre: all there on the panel nixtrove: yeah 4utechre: one of fastest synths for me nixtrove: Was used a lot on cichlisuite? solojazzcup: not sure if anyone's asked this yet, but where do you get your ideas from martybyrnemusic: lol pobelterzzzz: lol 4utechre: also has a sor tof weirdly distinct thin but nice sound sort of glassy and delicate 4utechre: depending which one they all sound a bit diff nixtrove: It has amazing engines and it rlly is all so simple nixtrove: Yeah glassy martybyrnemusic: I'm picturing you sort of hacking it to incorporate it into some glitchy generative stuff 4utechre: yeah u can do a bit with sysex nixtrove: Would be cool to dust off and use if you got it lyin around 4utechre: the thing i found though was i had to limit controller data diurn_: do you like any stuff from behringer? lately they're doing dope synths diurn_: Im in love w/ deepmind one 4utechre: like it breaks if u send it too much even though it can receive it all nixtrove: Theres a panic button uviol8: Well, hmm, more of a bass player myself. Don't have a clue bout this technical stuff martybyrnemusic: breaks but not in the nice way? hehe nixtrove: press button to panic lol 4utechre: but if i do something like quantize the controller data to 16ths its a fucking beast 4utechre: can handle quite a bit of input then nixtrove: Yea id sequence it with other shit for basic 16 step stuff nixtrove: i* uviol8: is xflood same fx used as One - six live recordings cognessence: That’s so interesting. Like overloading too much polyphony into a synth you’ve made purposefully lower to make nice sounds with note stealing nixtrove: but could go way more nixtrove: yeah note stealing is so fun 4utechre: yeah shit the voice stealing on the first nord leads was hilarious 4utechre: so we abused it loads nixtrove: What did you mean about drum maps? 4utechre: like if u got 4 sounds in the track off that u can get all sorts of weird choking/quick morph action martybyrnemusic: aaaah nice nixtrove: Oh yeah the layers there, if you sequenced each of them diff nixtrove: get some overlaps nixtrove: oversteps rephlexwest: overlapsteps nixtrove: Idk i magically found one in mtl nixtrove: Would not expect to find one rephlexwest: stepoverlaps nixtrove: I did 13k steps yesterday btw nixtrove: Wheres my medal cognessence: “weirdly distinct thin but nice sound sort of glassy and delicate” sums up NL so well, it’s why it always works in some many contexts easily with little need for faffing compared to others rephlexwest: nice cognessence: *so many 4utechre: yeah clavia are smart to hang onto their algos and go after keyboard players, but still the g2 was a kind of pinnacle imo 4utechre: and the lead basic template isnt gonna age ever rephlexwest: I wish I understood like a quarter of all the tech jargon going on here rn lol 4utechre: they should do a proper full software release of g2 imo uviol8: me too martybyrnemusic: you reckon it wouldn't lose anything in the digital domain? nixtrove: Its really solid. the fm knob there especs martybyrnemusic: Is it all digital anyway? 4utechre: it might yeah 4utechre: but i doubt it cognessence: There would be a tonne of interest for sure! 4utechre: think u could emu what need to 4utechre: its nice having nord sound and that workflow martybyrnemusic: maybe you'd lose that choking / stealing thing ... or they could offer you that mode... To make it more like the real thing. 4utechre: i prob prefer using max anyway these days but i like having their sound in that domain nixtrove: Youd sequence a nord on max? 4utechre: i used to quie a bit 4utechre: not now at all 4utechre: been 100% itb for ages now Master_Chang: o/ all rephlexwest: do you do much field recordings nowadays btw? 4utechre: none really 4utechre: not that i dont enjoy that kind of stuff tons nixtrove: Its funny how getting out of the box kind of makes you still go in the box MirandaGemini: we're sounding very menacing today cognessence: I want a Yamaha FS1R in software! Love the plastic sound. Not paying that much for a module again rephlexwest: what was the last irl object you recorded, and used in a track? 4utechre: fs1r is amazing i gave mine to daz fitton though martybyrnemusic: see the live stuff, are yous turning up with your max system and just hitting play and seeing what happens? Do yous set some new variables and parameters before each show? martybyrnemusic: Are they based on things specific to that time or place, or more just arbitrary and whatever feels good at the time? ( I'm being very nosey now hehehe) 4utechre: sometimes theres some little tweaks before we go on but its mainly just see what happens nixtrove: does tri repetae have that nord/max seq stuff i kind of hear it there monoppus: what sample rate u guys work at? martybyrnemusic: amazing nixtrove: dw im makin coffee you can go on 4utechre: no nord on tri rep no that was a couple of years before nixtrove: O right im 20 anyway jeez pobelterzzzz: not sure if you remember, during onesix in Tourcoing, at the chord part round 44mins, sounded like some cpu issues and the silence part never came, it was just blasting the chords for a few mins was that intentional? sounded really sick tho nixtrove: By the time i was born youll have done so much shit already 4utechre: ok so yeah in 95 we had quite a diff setup diurn_: can you recommend me any max/msp devices? I guess that you're using a lo of gate'd effects 4utechre: the main computer was atari st tebbisimo: i like this bit nixtrove: Nice atari 4utechre: running c-lab creator tebbisimo: corrrr 4utechre: and then we had loads of hardware but mosty roland gear nixtrove: Oh yeah never asked about software you used before max nixtrove: how was C lab? was it grid style? cognessence: I like the Alessi Midi/quadraverb (?) vibe from that era, so rusty murky nice vivid reverb spaces 4utechre: nah creator is cool its weird though sort of like a tracker for midi 4utechre: and can do live jamming by muting unmuting midi channels 4utechre: and can record the muting etc monoppus: the event list 4utechre: its a cool program prefuturism_0: which tecker alllllbum sounds the most colourful? 4utechre: also had groove mapping before anything else nixtrove: Yeah sounds sick. do youd link up all the gear into creator and basically jam? 4utechre: lot of the weird timing stuff on chiastic was done with c-lab agecp: Really dig sunvox as a tracker 4utechre: yeah 4utechre: the roland r8 was like our main drum machine agecp: So poweful 4utechre: cos it had the sort of mpc workflow but was pre-mpc 4utechre: also it has tape sync and din sync as well as midi sync 4utechre: so very fucking useful nixtrove: Yea i discovered it at a friends and hes a bit older so i was intrigued about the R8 for some time 4utechre: as a result was the centre of the tudio p much 4utechre: *s nixtrove: Heard you only used it to sequence not the sounds themselves? martybyrnemusic: then just feed it through tonnes of effects? hehe 4utechre: used the sounds loads nixtrove: oh wow 4utechre: but also used as a sequencer 4utechre: the thing is u cant do any pitching over midi nixtrove: Yea seemed like a capable sequencer for that period 4utechre: well u can but its not the same methos it uses for internal pitching nixtrove: oh no octaves? 4utechre: like if u do a hi hat in r8 and vary pitch param in r8 it stays same midi note nixtrove: ok i see it doesnt affect the data 4utechre: anyway yeah tons of our early stuff is just r8 sounds heavly edited pitched around etc 4utechre: like making a kick out of a tom or whatever nixtrove: was there a workaround for the pitching? nixtrove: yeah kicks of toms is dope 4utechre: no u just sequence the r8 internally 4utechre: anyone buying an r8m is doing it wrong 4utechre: basically nixtrove: it just seems to be lyin around in ppl studios nixtrove: collecting dust tebbisimo: would u do it all with a view to make the machines do it from start to end? 4utechre: yeah its so editable though tebbisimo: or just to sample and figure out live later 4utechre: like at the time was so OTT 4utechre: yeah so all tri rep was live takes sort of 4utechre: the arrangemnt would be mostly planned and then run thru it by feel 4utechre: do it a few times until u do 'the one' cognessence: That’s really old school! Nice It has that feel nixtrove: yeah i love this livetake approach 4utechre: but some would be like the track made in creator and then we sort of mix it live, some we'd have the loops going and just do the arrange by ear tebbisimo: thats even more amazing 4utechre: yeah it can be good tebbisimo: so the core is there 4utechre: although maybe end up with tracks too long cos ur really into it idk lol tebbisimo: then human tweaks for feel nixtrove: those long tracks are something 4utechre: been working really differently recently not like these long jam things tebbisimo: hahaha yeh man, then going through must be a nightmare.... Quarastice sounds like a time of many many versions hahaha uviol8: so it's a mixed approach, planned and jammin 4utechre: this twitch thing is a red herring don't be fooled ovalvoal: So when can we hear that recent new approach, then? 4utechre: idk warp saying last qtr 2020, but it depends on logistics which idk corona 4utechre: but its in progress martybyrnemusic: would love to know the process that led to Confield's opening track, it seems to be like a major progression from the live jams and gear explorations mixed with getting deeper with the code / Max world, but it also sounds like neither. The tempo changes and morphing about seems so abstract to my ears, still. Was it different to how yous worked before or since? tebbisimo: I think they got the cheeddar for full ozs now 4utechre: lol idk what the big deal with confield is 4utechre: that track yeah was a weird method i gues nixtrove: Confield seemed to be a game changer for ppl idk martybyrnemusic: hehe, I love it. But I see how some people would be like "where's the beats, maaaaan" but fuck those people. hehehe uviol8: it has something different tebbisimo: well its just a lazy persons way of saying nixtrove: “Difficult” tebbisimo: hahaha tebbisimo: rite mrgypsum: my favs untilted the beats!!! 4utechre: i think its just cos track one isnt what u normally call a steady beat uviol8: weird yet normal weird n05uchk3y: the basss slower sounds even nicer n05uchk3y: melting in my brain like uviol8: Yeah but ae has many trx Like that martybyrnemusic: yeah, it's like this liquid metal sort of trickling thing, it's amazing 4utechre: like when u ask people why its a weird album they always think of only that track, maybe the last track uviol8: bine 's also weird nixtrove: in the mixes 4utechre: yeah bine n05uchk3y: I think people will get this really in year 4040 aprox tebbisimo: m,an MCR quarter tebbisimo: who recorded that 4utechre: but the rest arent that weird i *** tebbisimo: i fukkkin love that 4utechre: like sort of weird but not that weird ovalvoal: I recall using Confield those years for studio monitors testing haha 4utechre: idk who recorded mcr qtr 4utechre: iirc we grabbed it of slsk nixtrove: LOL tebbisimo: its such a lovely recording tebbisimo: like the energy is all sucked together tebbisimo: and then when it breathes to like go round again tebbisimo: man n05uchk3y: then should be a sub bass even lower than 5 hz 4utechre: yeah best bootleg 10/10 would dl again 4utechre: the way i see the live things is its so far just 2 albums worth of stuff but with a ton of versions of one and a few of the other tebbisimo: wld it have killed u to bookmark it tebbisimo: i cba to cut em up 4utechre: lol tebbisimo: but would be so good to cut them all up and listen to THAT TRACK hellospiral: lol tebbisimo: u know, the gd bit of C16 Deep tread that u didnt include 4utechre: yeah u can do that though i mean u can dl the wares for free tebbisimo: the spiral head fuck crescendo ting tebbisimo: yeh but thyyyyyyyyyme 4utechre: well same tebbisimo: audacity sure but cba cant a warp temp do it 4utechre: NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neurone Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 well thanks for the chat report, 'coz i've been on twitch a few minutes, then leave for lunch with family just when the chat with Sean started, then came back just when it was over hahah (nevermind, familly is way mor important) but .... happy I will be able to read all this interesting stuff (even if it feel like a paparrazi thing , quoting every single sing sean says on then chat to report...idk... well fuck it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, Draft78 said: 4utechre: idk who recorded mcr qtr 4utechre: iirc we grabbed it of slsk that's quite hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draft78 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 hehe... well, i report only if i find something intersting or specifically funny... in this case there are a lot of technical tips and reviews that I'm sure many will be interested in ..i hope so, at last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud capture Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 thx for quoting Sean's explanation of how the twitch channel works. That's insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I think he's explained it before, no? At least the part about the RGB values. Not sure if it went into this much detail then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Draft78 said: (...) 4utechre: everyone else can be a noise artist ccribbe: have you shown any of this to chris cunningam yet 4utechre: chris would prob just laugh 4utechre: its all max and jitter this metacodex4: to insert some boring grey brutalism textures martybyrnemusic: class 4utechre: the audio all derives from the video signal uviol8: i believen you reverred 2 it as the system 4utechre: so its a sort of group composition rephlexwest: afternoon all metacodex4: the audio is generated by the video itself ??? 4utechre: it sounds better if post lots of coloured emotes uviol8: i mean pure the music nixtrove: Weirdcore melted my brain once. its total overload ... 4utechre: yeah all the synths are using the video signal as data 4utechre: also the drums but u cant tell as much metacodex4: wow it really changes metacodex4: maybe the velocity ? uviol8: Ow Interesting metacodex4: maybe you should write this into the description or so martybyrnemusic: Lovely uviol8: it's cool if u don't wanna Say 4utechre: yeah its a bit of a long description though 4utechre: not really into describing things 4utechre: but i can tell u how it works uviol8: ok gonna be a big One? metacodex4: only this i mean ; ) thetwistedprocess: thought it was the reverse relation bamTommyS: i'd like to hear it bamTommyS: if you don't mind saying 4utechre: pretty simple just swapped out the oscillators in a load of synths with a custom oscillator based on jit.peek~ metacodex4: i always wanted to acompany my music with visuals, i hope its not that complicated nixtrove: i knew they were jit oscillators metacodex4: awesome thanks !!! 4utechre: the custom osc is actually 3 oscillators bamTommyS: what does colour do? 4utechre: so basically there are 3 colour channels, r g b metacodex4: ah ok 4utechre: and each channel has its own oscillator uviol8: can i ask musical question? how did u do All End ccribbe: what a simple question^ metacodex4: loool bamTommyS: that's cool, and weirdly simple metacodex4: paulstretch nixtrove: Red sounds tight metacodex4: its evolving ! nixtrove: You could like hold a sustain pedal and bring up some strings or winds on a keyboard and layer notes and boom nixtrove: All end metacodex4: kick is louder now ! 4utechre: the 3 oscillators are mixed using a kind of crossover tebbisimo: how does the crossover work, cos my man was complaining it just picks the like, dominant Freak tebbisimo: or spectrum or whatever 4utechre: so the red is lowest freq and blue is highest, green in the mid tebbisimo: like there was no nuance for him 4utechre: did it by ear/taste/feel martybyrnemusic: so is red : more bass? 4utechre: sort of 4utechre: it depends 4utechre: like how ur then filtering the output of the osc uviol8: u asked for red blue indeed, martybyrnemusic: aha 4utechre: but yeah in general yellow sounds warm and colourful, red is war, blue is cool uviol8: what was White 4 mrgypsum: i really like that the visuals have all been pretty varied on this channel there was like old bbc stuff and now stuff like this good diversity of stuff metacodex4: if you would insert yoru faces you would get sort of an a e puzzle 4utechre: *warm nixtrove: yellow rocks this one tebbisimo: u said Robs gonna do a twitch???? 4utechre: if you had only once oscillatr yeah u can re-encode into an image tebbisimo: whats his called 8utechre martybyrnemusic: hehe, red is war! Could be interesting... Certain colours dominating triggering some really wild card moments. 4utechre: but becasue there are many oscillators you get many overlaid differently scaled images 4utechre: bt still u can sometimes make out the source tebbisimo: no ketchup tebbisimo: raw source nixtrove: so the oscillators are modulating each other? martybyrnemusic: yellow is doing some cool filtering it seems 4utechre: theres one fm synth in there 4utechre: doing the sort of chirp sound nixtrove: i hear it its nice 4utechre: the rest are just straight what youd call digi subtractive 4utechre: but with this mutant jit.peek~ osc ting nixtrove: long the random sustains nixtrove: love tebbisimo: and u upgraded the reverb eh tebbisimo: cos some times its like corrr 4utechre: ah yeah 4utechre: its not really a reverb tebbisimo: wot issit 4utechre: but it can do some reverby sounding things tebbisimo: haha tebbisimo: its a delay tebbisimo: wait rephlexwest: how would the patch respond to the tri repetae green/brown/grey color I wonder nixtrove: its like EG nixtrove: isnt it 4utechre: yeah sort of compound delay thing bamTommyS: can we ask how you made other tracks? 4utechre: bit more configurable than a reverb but similar topology tebbisimo: isnt reverb just a v small delay AnotherJimmy: Is this just having fun or would you release anything based on this? nixtrove: thats pretty cool as well 4utechre: theres tons of ways to do it tbh 4utechre: but yeha usually combs delays and apfs nixtrove: do any colora affect this delay? tebbisimo: yeh i remember in an interview u were like nixtrove: s tebbisimo: We just route off into delays and reverbs like x100 tebbisimo: and we sort of lose a bit of track of it all 4utechre: yeah i shove all kinds of random shit in there tebbisimo: niiiice 4utechre: feedback loops supergood tebbisimo: and then just make envelopes around the weirdness nixtrove: there was this cool dissonant pad yesterday for a hot minute tebbisimo: "just" martybyrnemusic: so you mean, you've a load of different oscs / synths / beats etc going off into many different delay / feedback channels? 4utechre: usually control some aspect of the process in the loop yeah uviol8: can i ask bout music neurone45: dor thos who wants a bit of hint about how reverb works (old and new) : *** 4utechre: yeah when i used hardware was always routing things in weird nonlinear ways tebbisimo: yeh i noticed in the machinedrum tebbisimo: like wtf diurn_: hello good morning all tebbisimo: how u do dat tebbisimo: mornin cognessence: Good morning pobelterzzzz: does anyone know if they use FL Studio and what sample pack is this? 4utechre: tbh i seen way more impressive stuff out there than out md bits martybyrnemusic: how long have yous been NOT using hardware? uviol8: mornin 4utechre: for ages now 4utechre: idk tebbisimo: you kinda have to live through it yrself to make sense of it tho eh 4utechre: 10 years nixtrove: s35an any tricks using a nord lead tebbisimo: like I dunno, for me anyway martybyrnemusic: I wondered if maybe yous had mad rigs of modular, but I'm actually chuffed to hear that that's not the case. tebbisimo: why pay 300£ a pop when he can copy and paste from notepad 4utechre: wow u just reminded me of a whole nord lead thing i did in max ages ago 4utechre: might try to revive that tebbisimo: niiiiiiice nixtrove: That is the shit hellospiral: pobelterzzzz: s34n btw that spectral morphing part in the 2016/18 live sets, around 13 mins is my favorite sound i have ever heard, can't get enough of it nixtrove: I picked up a rack version cognessence: Nord Lead 3 so underrated! nixtrove: Got the original it really sounds its time tebbisimo: Are u or Russel undisputed king of the fart noises btw? tebbisimo: or is it a patch u gave Russ tebbisimo: like onesix is very gutteral uviol8: Yeah what's that morphin sound in onesix 4utechre: russ has patches from a few people idk martybyrnemusic: the Nord Lead has a powerful synth engine, right? And I think there's a software editor, so you can get into some deep places 4utechre: i think i only ever made him a dj thing tebbisimo: ahhh fair, I thought he was using ur AE_live bits for Russ_Live nixtrove: pls revive the nord that would be so damn dope 4utechre: the nord lead doesnt need a software editor 4utechre: idk if there is one cognessence: It’s true, the interface is so easy 4utechre: i mean its sort of good because of no menu diving nixtrove: Its a beautiful machine 4utechre: all there on the panel nixtrove: yeah 4utechre: one of fastest synths for me nixtrove: Was used a lot on cichlisuite? solojazzcup: not sure if anyone's asked this yet, but where do you get your ideas from martybyrnemusic: lol pobelterzzzz: lol 4utechre: also has a sor tof weirdly distinct thin but nice sound sort of glassy and delicate 4utechre: depending which one they all sound a bit diff nixtrove: It has amazing engines and it rlly is all so simple nixtrove: Yeah glassy martybyrnemusic: I'm picturing you sort of hacking it to incorporate it into some glitchy generative stuff 4utechre: yeah u can do a bit with sysex nixtrove: Would be cool to dust off and use if you got it lyin around 4utechre: the thing i found though was i had to limit controller data diurn_: do you like any stuff from behringer? lately they're doing dope synths diurn_: Im in love w/ deepmind one 4utechre: like it breaks if u send it too much even though it can receive it all nixtrove: Theres a panic button uviol8: Well, hmm, more of a bass player myself. Don't have a clue bout this technical stuff martybyrnemusic: breaks but not in the nice way? hehe nixtrove: press button to panic lol 4utechre: but if i do something like quantize the controller data to 16ths its a fucking beast 4utechre: can handle quite a bit of input then nixtrove: Yea id sequence it with other shit for basic 16 step stuff nixtrove: i* uviol8: is xflood same fx used as One - six live recordings cognessence: That’s so interesting. Like overloading too much polyphony into a synth you’ve made purposefully lower to make nice sounds with note stealing nixtrove: but could go way more nixtrove: yeah note stealing is so fun 4utechre: yeah shit the voice stealing on the first nord leads was hilarious 4utechre: so we abused it loads nixtrove: What did you mean about drum maps? 4utechre: like if u got 4 sounds in the track off that u can get all sorts of weird choking/quick morph action martybyrnemusic: aaaah nice nixtrove: Oh yeah the layers there, if you sequenced each of them diff nixtrove: get some overlaps nixtrove: oversteps rephlexwest: overlapsteps nixtrove: Idk i magically found one in mtl nixtrove: Would not expect to find one rephlexwest: stepoverlaps nixtrove: I did 13k steps yesterday btw nixtrove: Wheres my medal cognessence: “weirdly distinct thin but nice sound sort of glassy and delicate” sums up NL so well, it’s why it always works in some many contexts easily with little need for faffing compared to others rephlexwest: nice cognessence: *so many 4utechre: yeah clavia are smart to hang onto their algos and go after keyboard players, but still the g2 was a kind of pinnacle imo 4utechre: and the lead basic template isnt gonna age ever rephlexwest: I wish I understood like a quarter of all the tech jargon going on here rn lol 4utechre: they should do a proper full software release of g2 imo uviol8: me too martybyrnemusic: you reckon it wouldn't lose anything in the digital domain? nixtrove: Its really solid. the fm knob there especs martybyrnemusic: Is it all digital anyway? 4utechre: it might yeah 4utechre: but i doubt it cognessence: There would be a tonne of interest for sure! 4utechre: think u could emu what need to 4utechre: its nice having nord sound and that workflow martybyrnemusic: maybe you'd lose that choking / stealing thing ... or they could offer you that mode... To make it more like the real thing. 4utechre: i prob prefer using max anyway these days but i like having their sound in that domain nixtrove: Youd sequence a nord on max? 4utechre: i used to quie a bit 4utechre: not now at all 4utechre: been 100% itb for ages now Master_Chang: o/ all rephlexwest: do you do much field recordings nowadays btw? 4utechre: none really 4utechre: not that i dont enjoy that kind of stuff tons nixtrove: Its funny how getting out of the box kind of makes you still go in the box MirandaGemini: we're sounding very menacing today cognessence: I want a Yamaha FS1R in software! Love the plastic sound. Not paying that much for a module again rephlexwest: what was the last irl object you recorded, and used in a track? 4utechre: fs1r is amazing i gave mine to daz fitton though martybyrnemusic: see the live stuff, are yous turning up with your max system and just hitting play and seeing what happens? Do yous set some new variables and parameters before each show? martybyrnemusic: Are they based on things specific to that time or place, or more just arbitrary and whatever feels good at the time? ( I'm being very nosey now hehehe) 4utechre: sometimes theres some little tweaks before we go on but its mainly just see what happens nixtrove: does tri repetae have that nord/max seq stuff i kind of hear it there monoppus: what sample rate u guys work at? martybyrnemusic: amazing nixtrove: dw im makin coffee you can go on 4utechre: no nord on tri rep no that was a couple of years before nixtrove: O right im 20 anyway jeez pobelterzzzz: not sure if you remember, during onesix in Tourcoing, at the chord part round 44mins, sounded like some cpu issues and the silence part never came, it was just blasting the chords for a few mins was that intentional? sounded really sick tho nixtrove: By the time i was born youll have done so much shit already 4utechre: ok so yeah in 95 we had quite a diff setup diurn_: can you recommend me any max/msp devices? I guess that you're using a lo of gate'd effects 4utechre: the main computer was atari st tebbisimo: i like this bit nixtrove: Nice atari 4utechre: running c-lab creator tebbisimo: corrrr 4utechre: and then we had loads of hardware but mosty roland gear nixtrove: Oh yeah never asked about software you used before max nixtrove: how was C lab? was it grid style? cognessence: I like the Alessi Midi/quadraverb (?) vibe from that era, so rusty murky nice vivid reverb spaces 4utechre: nah creator is cool its weird though sort of like a tracker for midi 4utechre: and can do live jamming by muting unmuting midi channels 4utechre: and can record the muting etc monoppus: the event list 4utechre: its a cool program prefuturism_0: which tecker alllllbum sounds the most colourful? 4utechre: also had groove mapping before anything else nixtrove: Yeah sounds sick. do youd link up all the gear into creator and basically jam? 4utechre: lot of the weird timing stuff on chiastic was done with c-lab agecp: Really dig sunvox as a tracker 4utechre: yeah 4utechre: the roland r8 was like our main drum machine agecp: So poweful 4utechre: cos it had the sort of mpc workflow but was pre-mpc 4utechre: also it has tape sync and din sync as well as midi sync 4utechre: so very fucking useful nixtrove: Yea i discovered it at a friends and hes a bit older so i was intrigued about the R8 for some time 4utechre: as a result was the centre of the tudio p much 4utechre: *s nixtrove: Heard you only used it to sequence not the sounds themselves? martybyrnemusic: then just feed it through tonnes of effects? hehe 4utechre: used the sounds loads nixtrove: oh wow 4utechre: but also used as a sequencer 4utechre: the thing is u cant do any pitching over midi nixtrove: Yea seemed like a capable sequencer for that period 4utechre: well u can but its not the same methos it uses for internal pitching nixtrove: oh no octaves? 4utechre: like if u do a hi hat in r8 and vary pitch param in r8 it stays same midi note nixtrove: ok i see it doesnt affect the data 4utechre: anyway yeah tons of our early stuff is just r8 sounds heavly edited pitched around etc 4utechre: like making a kick out of a tom or whatever nixtrove: was there a workaround for the pitching? nixtrove: yeah kicks of toms is dope 4utechre: no u just sequence the r8 internally 4utechre: anyone buying an r8m is doing it wrong 4utechre: basically nixtrove: it just seems to be lyin around in ppl studios nixtrove: collecting dust tebbisimo: would u do it all with a view to make the machines do it from start to end? 4utechre: yeah its so editable though tebbisimo: or just to sample and figure out live later 4utechre: like at the time was so OTT 4utechre: yeah so all tri rep was live takes sort of 4utechre: the arrangemnt would be mostly planned and then run thru it by feel 4utechre: do it a few times until u do 'the one' cognessence: That’s really old school! Nice It has that feel nixtrove: yeah i love this livetake approach 4utechre: but some would be like the track made in creator and then we sort of mix it live, some we'd have the loops going and just do the arrange by ear tebbisimo: thats even more amazing 4utechre: yeah it can be good tebbisimo: so the core is there 4utechre: although maybe end up with tracks too long cos ur really into it idk lol tebbisimo: then human tweaks for feel nixtrove: those long tracks are something 4utechre: been working really differently recently not like these long jam things tebbisimo: hahaha yeh man, then going through must be a nightmare.... Quarastice sounds like a time of many many versions hahaha uviol8: so it's a mixed approach, planned and jammin 4utechre: this twitch thing is a red herring don't be fooled ovalvoal: So when can we hear that recent new approach, then? 4utechre: idk warp saying last qtr 2020, but it depends on logistics which idk corona 4utechre: but its in progress martybyrnemusic: would love to know the process that led to Confield's opening track, it seems to be like a major progression from the live jams and gear explorations mixed with getting deeper with the code / Max world, but it also sounds like neither. The tempo changes and morphing about seems so abstract to my ears, still. Was it different to how yous worked before or since? tebbisimo: I think they got the cheeddar for full ozs now 4utechre: lol idk what the big deal with confield is 4utechre: that track yeah was a weird method i gues nixtrove: Confield seemed to be a game changer for ppl idk martybyrnemusic: hehe, I love it. But I see how some people would be like "where's the beats, maaaaan" but fuck those people. hehehe uviol8: it has something different tebbisimo: well its just a lazy persons way of saying nixtrove: “Difficult” tebbisimo: hahaha tebbisimo: rite mrgypsum: my favs untilted the beats!!! 4utechre: i think its just cos track one isnt what u normally call a steady beat uviol8: weird yet normal weird n05uchk3y: the basss slower sounds even nicer n05uchk3y: melting in my brain like uviol8: Yeah but ae has many trx Like that martybyrnemusic: yeah, it's like this liquid metal sort of trickling thing, it's amazing 4utechre: like when u ask people why its a weird album they always think of only that track, maybe the last track uviol8: bine 's also weird nixtrove: in the mixes 4utechre: yeah bine n05uchk3y: I think people will get this really in year 4040 aprox tebbisimo: m,an MCR quarter tebbisimo: who recorded that 4utechre: but the rest arent that weird i *** tebbisimo: i fukkkin love that 4utechre: like sort of weird but not that weird ovalvoal: I recall using Confield those years for studio monitors testing haha 4utechre: idk who recorded mcr qtr 4utechre: iirc we grabbed it of slsk nixtrove: LOL tebbisimo: its such a lovely recording tebbisimo: like the energy is all sucked together tebbisimo: and then when it breathes to like go round again tebbisimo: man n05uchk3y: then should be a sub bass even lower than 5 hz 4utechre: yeah best bootleg 10/10 would dl again 4utechre: the way i see the live things is its so far just 2 albums worth of stuff but with a ton of versions of one and a few of the other tebbisimo: wld it have killed u to bookmark it tebbisimo: i cba to cut em up 4utechre: lol tebbisimo: but would be so good to cut them all up and listen to THAT TRACK hellospiral: lol tebbisimo: u know, the gd bit of C16 Deep tread that u didnt include 4utechre: yeah u can do that though i mean u can dl the wares for free tebbisimo: the spiral head fuck crescendo ting tebbisimo: yeh but thyyyyyyyyyme 4utechre: well same tebbisimo: audacity sure but cba cant a warp temp do it 4utechre: NO this reads beautiful on mobile thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neurone Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Draft78 said: hehe... well, i report only if i find something intersting or specifically funny... in this case there are a lot of technical tips and reviews that I'm sure many will be interested in ..i hope so, at last yeah you're totally right . paparazzi would be if you sneak into his personal life, wich is not the case. i was stupid. (though it was almost a joke in a way) anyway thanks I'm the first to be happy to read it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Q: Can't a WARP temp do it? A: NO ... Q: Seanpls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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