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4utechre: Tbh it’s the same jam I just left it running 4utechre: Have fun enjoy the outside fffreddy_: I figured you'd have taken the stream down by now to make changes 4utechre: Not too m

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Yep, I knew it was that, but I meant that it's hard to make out if you don't know what you're looking for.

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Broadcaster4utechre: Tbh it’s the same jam I just left it running
Broadcaster4utechre: Have fun enjoy the outside
fffreddy_: I figured you'd have taken the stream down by now to make changes
Broadcaster4utechre: Not too much obviously
Broadcaster4utechre: Yeah I was gonna take a break today
Broadcaster4utechre: Could just leave it as a perma installation
Twitch Primegokuroku420: would be cool
Twitch Primegokuroku420: have several different ones running
fffreddy_: You think you might incorporate some Jitter stuff into your future albums/live sets?
Broadcaster4utechre: No plans to use any of this yet I only started messing with jitter a few weeks ago and this OpenGL stuff last week
Broadcaster4utechre: But am having loads of fun
fffreddy_: Using the Twitch chat as textures for the models was an A+ idea
Broadcaster4utechre: It’s how we did the confield sleeve. Rob did some videos, the sleeve was a still from one of them, made same way, video textures mapped onto little objects
Broadcaster4utechre: I wasn’t really messing with video back then but rob did some cool stuff
Broadcaster4utechre: Back then I was still using whatever that paint type thing was called in max where you draw rectangles and circles etc
Broadcaster4utechre: It was shit
fffreddy_: I remember reading about you guys experimenting with CG images in some interview, but I didn't know that's how you did the cover for Confield
fffreddy_: neat
Broadcaster4utechre: I actually have some mutant version of the liccflii patch somewhere that had accompanying visuals made with that drawing thing
Broadcaster4utechre: All diff coloured shapes flying about. Lots of squares. Prob couldn’t use it now cos Tom did something similar since
Broadcaster4utechre: Idk if I ever showed him that
Broadcaster4utechre: Anyway when I got this going Rob was wanting to do loads but I steamed in on here. He’s setting up an alt account anyway but idk when he’s gonna use it
Broadcaster4utechre: So we’ll have at least 2 going, but idk what any if it’s for yet. So far it’s just for corona boredom relief
fffreddy_: sick
fffreddy_: looking forward to it
ymlacio: getting fuck all work done tbh
Broadcaster4utechre: This is the closest I can get to working right now
Broadcaster4utechre: Learning is way easier than meeting deadlines right now for some reason
fffreddy_: I'd say learning a new skill counts as being productive
ymlacio: hopefully deadlines will melt away after all this
fffreddy_: Even if you might not use the knowledge right away
Broadcaster4utechre: Yeah I’m sort of protected by doing video stuff I can tell myself it’s not important or whatever but still finding cool shit to do which is the whole point of everything anyway
Broadcaster4utechre: Lol
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makes sense that they're cool with sharing the video / experimental work, it doesn't have the pressure of being considered an autechre album or whatever that implies.  for that reason I was disappointed that there were articles "reporting" new album in the works (quoting richard devine posting a screenshot on twitter).. when they were just being honest and chatting with fans.. better to leave it to fans in the know and report when there is actual news when they decide to package something up.

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Broadcaster4utechre: Still me been tweaking all day
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4utechre: Gonna sleep now leave running
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Broadcaster4utechre: Rob did say he was gonna do a channel but idk when he’s doing loads of stuff besides
Broadcaster4utechre: Have fun don’t stare all night

 

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I returned yesterday after supper and hung around until 1 a.m. local time, it had definitely calmed down then though. Woke up to find it still going at more or less the same pace. Yesterday afternoon it was sounding pretty wild.

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Broadcaster4utechre: huh i popped every filter at same time
Broadcaster4utechre: just rebooting
yhancik: 
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ae35u: don't worry, my ears have been disgraced for many years
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Broadcaster4utechre: everyone else can be a noise artist
ccribbe: have you shown any of this to chris cunningam yet
Broadcaster4utechre: chris would prob just laugh
Broadcaster4utechre: its all max and jitter this
metacodex4: to insert some boring grey brutalism textures
martybyrnemusic: class
Broadcaster4utechre: the audio all derives from the video signal
uviol8: i believen you reverred 2 it as the system
Broadcaster4utechre: so its a sort of group composition
rephlexwest: afternoon all
metacodex4: the audio is generated by the video itself ???
Broadcaster4utechre: it sounds better if post lots of coloured emotes
uviol8: i mean pure the music
nixtrove: Weirdcore melted my brain once. its total overload
...
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah all the synths are using the video signal as data
 
Broadcaster4utechre: also the drums but u cant tell as much
metacodex4: wow it really changes
metacodex4: maybe the velocity ?
uviol8: Ow Interesting
metacodex4: maybe you should write this into the description or so
martybyrnemusic: Lovely
uviol8: it's cool if u don't wanna Say
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah its a bit of a long description though
Broadcaster4utechre: not really into describing things
Broadcaster4utechre: but i can tell u how it works
uviol8: ok gonna be a big One?
metacodex4: only this i mean ; )
thetwistedprocess: thought it was the reverse relation
bamTommyS: i'd like to hear it
bamTommyS: if you don't mind saying
Broadcaster4utechre: pretty simple just swapped out the oscillators in a load of synths with a custom oscillator based on jit.peek~
metacodex4: i always wanted to acompany my music with visuals, i hope its not that complicated
nixtrove: i knew they were jit oscillators
metacodex4: awesome thanks !!!
Broadcaster4utechre: the custom osc is actually 3 oscillators
bamTommyS: what does colour do?
Broadcaster4utechre: so basically there are 3 colour channels, r g b
metacodex4: ah ok
Broadcaster4utechre: and each channel has its own oscillator
uviol8: can i ask musical question? how did u do All End
ccribbe: what a simple question^
metacodex4: loool
bamTommyS: that's cool, and weirdly simple
metacodex4: paulstretch
nixtrove: Red sounds tight
 
metacodex4: its evolving !
nixtrove: You could like hold a sustain pedal and bring up some strings or winds on a keyboard and layer notes and boom
nixtrove: All end
metacodex4: kick is louder now !
Broadcaster4utechrethe 3 oscillators are mixed using a kind of crossover
tebbisimo: how does the crossover work, cos my man was complaining it just picks the like, dominant Freak
tebbisimo: or spectrum or whatever
Broadcaster4utechre: so the red is lowest freq and blue is highest, green in the mid
tebbisimo: like there was no nuance for him
Broadcaster4utechre: did it by ear/taste/feel
martybyrnemusic: so is red : more bass? 
Broadcaster4utechre: sort of
Broadcaster4utechre: it depends
Broadcaster4utechre: like how ur then filtering the output of the osc
 
uviol8: u asked for red blue indeed,
martybyrnemusic: aha
Broadcaster4utechre: but yeah in general yellow sounds warm and colourful, red is war, blue is cool
uviol8: what was White 4
mrgypsum: i really like that the visuals have all been pretty varied on this channel there was like old bbc stuff and now stuff like this good diversity of stuff
metacodex4: if you would insert yoru faces you would get sort of an a e puzzle
Broadcaster4utechre: *warm
nixtrove: yellow rocks this one
tebbisimo: u said Robs gonna do a twitch????
Broadcaster4utechre: if you had only once oscillatr yeah u can re-encode into an image
tebbisimo: whats his called 8utechre
 
martybyrnemusic: hehe, red is war! Could be interesting... Certain colours dominating triggering some really wild card moments.
Broadcaster4utechre: but becasue there are many oscillators you get many overlaid differently scaled images
Broadcaster4utechrebt still u can sometimes make out the source
tebbisimo: no ketchup
tebbisimo: raw source
nixtrove: so the oscillators are modulating each other?
martybyrnemusic: yellow is doing some cool filtering it seems
Broadcaster4utechre: theres one fm synth in there
Broadcaster4utechre: doing the sort of chirp sound
nixtrove: i hear it its nice
Broadcaster4utechre: the rest are just straight what youd call digi subtractive
Broadcaster4utechre: but with this mutant jit.peek~ osc ting
nixtrove: long the random sustains
nixtrove: love
tebbisimo: and u upgraded the reverb eh
tebbisimo: cos some times its like corrr
Broadcaster4utechre: ah yeah
Broadcaster4utechre: its not really a reverb
tebbisimo: wot issit
Broadcaster4utechre: but it can do some reverby sounding things
tebbisimo: haha
tebbisimo: its a delay
tebbisimo: wait
rephlexwest: how would the patch respond to the tri repetae green/brown/grey color I wonder
nixtrove: its like EG
nixtrove: isnt it
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah sort of compound delay thing
bamTommyS: can we ask how you made other tracks?
Broadcaster4utechre: bit more configurable than a reverb but similar topology
tebbisimo: isnt reverb just a v small delay
AnotherJimmy: Is this just having fun or would you release anything based on this?
nixtrove: thats pretty cool as well
Broadcaster4utechre: theres tons of ways to do it tbh
Broadcaster4utechre: but yeha usually combs delays and apfs
nixtrove: do any colora affect this delay?
tebbisimo: yeh i remember in an interview u were like
nixtrove: s
tebbisimo: We just route off into delays and reverbs like x100
tebbisimo: and we sort of lose a bit of track of it all
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah i shove all kinds of random shit in there
tebbisimo: niiiice
Broadcaster4utechre: feedback loops supergood
tebbisimo: and then just make envelopes around the weirdness
nixtrove: there was this cool dissonant pad yesterday for a hot minute
tebbisimo: "just"
martybyrnemusic: so you mean, you've a load of different oscs / synths / beats etc going off into many different delay / feedback channels?
Broadcaster4utechre: usually control some aspect of the process in the loop yeah
uviol8: can i ask bout music
neurone45: dor thos who wants a bit of hint about how reverb works (old and new) : ***
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah when i used hardware was always routing things in weird nonlinear ways
tebbisimo: yeh i noticed in the machinedrum
tebbisimo: like wtf
diurn_: hello good morning all
tebbisimo: how u do dat
tebbisimo: mornin
cognessence: Good morning
pobelterzzzz: does anyone know if they use FL Studio and what sample pack is this?
Broadcaster4utechre: tbh i seen way more impressive stuff out there than out md bits
martybyrnemusic: how long have yous been NOT using hardware? 
:)
uviol8: mornin
Broadcaster4utechre: for ages now
Broadcaster4utechre: idk
tebbisimo: you kinda have to live through it yrself to make sense of it tho eh
Broadcaster4utechre: 10 years
nixtrove: s35an any tricks using a nord lead
tebbisimo: like I dunno, for me anyway
martybyrnemusic: I wondered if maybe yous had mad rigs of modular, but I'm actually chuffed to hear that that's not the case.
tebbisimo: why pay 300£ a pop when he can copy and paste from notepad
Broadcaster4utechre: wow u just reminded me of a whole nord lead thing i did in max ages ago
Broadcaster4utechre: might try to revive that
tebbisimo: niiiiiiice
nixtrove: That is the shit
hellospiral: 
<3
pobelterzzzz: s34n btw that spectral morphing part in the 2016/18 live sets, around 13 mins is my favorite sound i have ever heard, can't get enough of it
nixtrove: I picked up a rack version
cognessence: Nord Lead 3 so underrated!
nixtrove: Got the original it really sounds its time
tebbisimo: Are u or Russel undisputed king of the fart noises btw?
tebbisimo: or is it a patch u gave Russ
tebbisimo: like onesix is very gutteral
uviol8: Yeah what's that morphin sound in onesix
Broadcaster4utechre: russ has patches from a few people idk
martybyrnemusic: the Nord Lead has a powerful synth engine, right? And I think there's a software editor, so you can get into some deep places
Broadcaster4utechre: i think i only ever made him a dj thing
tebbisimo: ahhh fair, I thought he was using ur AE_live bits for Russ_Live
nixtrove: pls revive the nord that would be so damn dope
Broadcaster4utechre: the nord lead doesnt need a software editor
Broadcaster4utechre: idk if there is one
cognessence: It’s true, the interface is so easy
Broadcaster4utechre: i mean its sort of good because of no menu diving
nixtrove: Its a beautiful machine
Broadcaster4utechre: all there on the panel
nixtrove: yeah
Broadcaster
4utechre: one of fastest synths for me
nixtrove: Was used a lot on cichlisuite?
solojazzcup: not sure if anyone's asked this yet, but where do you get your ideas from
martybyrnemusic: lol
pobelterzzzz: lol
Broadcaster4utechre: also has a sor tof weirdly distinct thin but nice sound sort of glassy and delicate
Broadcaster4utechre: depending which one they all sound a bit diff
nixtrove: It has amazing engines and it rlly is all so simple
nixtrove: Yeah glassy
martybyrnemusic: I'm picturing you sort of hacking it to incorporate it into some glitchy generative stuff
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah u can do a bit with sysex
nixtrove: Would be cool to dust off and use if you got it lyin around
Broadcaster4utechre: the thing i found though was i had to limit controller data
diurn_: do you like any stuff from behringer? lately they're doing dope synths
diurn_: Im in love w/ deepmind one
Broadcaster4utechre: like it breaks if u send it too much even though it can receive it all
nixtrove: Theres a panic button
uviol8: Well, hmm, more of a bass player myself. Don't have a clue bout this technical stuff
martybyrnemusic: breaks but not in the nice way? hehe
nixtrove: press button to panic lol
Broadcaster4utechre: but if i do something like quantize the controller data to 16ths its a fucking beast
4utechre: can handle quite a bit of input then
nixtrove: Yea id sequence it with other shit for basic 16 step stuff
nixtrove: i*
uviol8: is xflood same fx used as One - six live recordings
cognessence: That’s so interesting. Like overloading too much polyphony into a synth you’ve made purposefully lower to make nice sounds with note stealing ?
nixtrove: but could go way more
nixtrove: yeah note stealing is so fun
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah shit the voice stealing on the first nord leads was hilarious
Broadcaster4utechre: so we abused it loads
nixtrove: What did you mean about drum maps?
Broadcaster4utechre: like if u got 4 sounds in the track off that u can get all sorts of weird choking/quick morph action
martybyrnemusic: aaaah nice
nixtrove: Oh yeah the layers there, if you sequenced each of them diff
nixtrove: get some overlaps
nixtrove: oversteps
rephlexwest: overlapsteps
nixtrove: Idk i magically found one in mtl
nixtrove: Would not expect to find one
rephlexwest: stepoverlaps
nixtrove: I did 13k steps yesterday btw
nixtrove: Wheres my medal
cognessence: “weirdly distinct thin but nice sound sort of glassy and delicate” sums up NL so well, it’s why it always works in some many contexts easily with little need for faffing compared to others
rephlexwest: nice
cognessence: *so many
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah clavia are smart to hang onto their algos and go after keyboard players, but still the g2 was a kind of pinnacle imo
Broadcaster4utechre: and the lead basic template isnt gonna age ever
rephlexwest: I wish I understood like a quarter of all the tech jargon going on here rn lol
Broadcaster4utechre: they should do a proper full software release of g2 imo
uviol8: me too ?
martybyrnemusic: you reckon it wouldn't lose anything in the digital domain?
nixtrove: Its really solid. the fm knob there especs
martybyrnemusic: Is it all digital anyway?
Broadcaster4utechre: it might yeah
Broadcaster4utechre: but i doubt it
cognessence: There would be a tonne of interest for sure!
Broadcaster4utechre: think u could emu what need to
Broadcaster4utechre: its nice having nord sound and that workflow
martybyrnemusic: maybe you'd lose that choking / stealing thing ... or they could offer you that mode... To make it more like the real thing.
Broadcaster4utechre: i prob prefer using max anyway these days but i like having their sound in that domain
nixtrove: Youd sequence a nord on max?
Broadcaster4utechre: i used to quie a bit
Broadcaster4utechre: not now at all
Broadcaster4utechre: been 100% itb for ages now
Master_Chang: o/ all
rephlexwest: do you do much field recordings nowadays btw?
Broadcaster4utechre: none really
Broadcaster4utechre: not that i dont enjoy that kind of stuff tons
nixtrove: Its funny how getting out of the box kind of makes you still go in the box
MirandaGemini: we're sounding very menacing today
cognessence: I want a Yamaha FS1R in software! Love the plastic sound. Not paying that much for a module again
rephlexwest: what was the last irl object you recorded, and used in a track?
Broadcaster4utechre: fs1r is amazing i gave mine to daz fitton though
martybyrnemusic: see the live stuff, are yous turning up with your max system and just hitting play and seeing what happens? Do yous set some new variables and parameters before each show?
martybyrnemusic: Are they based on things specific to that time or place, or more just arbitrary and whatever feels good at the time? ( I'm being very nosey now hehehe)
Broadcaster4utechre: sometimes theres some little tweaks before we go on but its mainly just see what happens
nixtrove: does tri repetae have that nord/max seq stuff i kind of hear it there
monoppus: what sample rate u guys work at?
martybyrnemusic: amazing
nixtrove: dw im makin coffee you can go on
4utechre: no nord on tri rep no that was a couple of years before
nixtrove: O right im 20 anyway jeez
pobelterzzzz: not sure if you remember, during onesix in Tourcoing, at the chord part round 44mins, sounded like some cpu issues and the silence part never came, it was just blasting the chords for a few mins 
:D
 was that intentional? sounded really sick tho
nixtrove: By the time i was born youll have done so much shit already
Broadcaster4utechre: ok so yeah in 95 we had quite a diff setup
diurn_: can you recommend me any max/msp devices? I guess that you're using a lo of gate'd effects
Broadcaster4utechre: the main computer was atari st
tebbisimo: i like this bit
nixtrove: Nice atari
Broadcaster4utechre: running c-lab creator
tebbisimo: corrrr
Broadcaster4utechre: and then we had loads of hardware but mosty roland gear
nixtrove: Oh yeah never asked about software you used before max
nixtrove: how was C lab? was it grid style?
cognessence: I like the Alessi Midi/quadraverb (?) vibe from that era, so rusty murky nice vivid reverb spaces
Broadcaster4utechre: nah creator is cool its weird though sort of like a tracker for midi
Broadcaster4utechre: and can do live jamming by muting unmuting midi channels
Broadcaster4utechre: and can record the muting etc
monoppus: the event list
Broadcaster4utechre: its a cool program
prefuturism_0: which tecker alllllbum sounds the most colourful?
Broadcaster4utechre: also had groove mapping before anything else
nixtrove: Yeah sounds sick. do youd link up all the gear into creator and basically jam?
Broadcaster4utechre: lot of the weird timing stuff on chiastic was done with c-lab
agecp: Really dig sunvox as a tracker
Broadcaster
4utechre: yeah
Broadcaster4utechre: the roland r8 was like our main drum machine
agecp: So poweful
Broadcaster4utechre: cos it had the sort of mpc workflow but was pre-mpc
Broadcaster4utechre: also it has tape sync and din sync as well as midi sync
Broadcaster4utechre: so very fucking useful
nixtrove: Yea i discovered it at a friends and hes a bit older so i was intrigued about the R8 for some time
Broadcaster4utechre: as a result was the centre of the tudio p much
Broadcaster4utechre: *s
nixtrove: Heard you only used it to sequence not the sounds themselves?
martybyrnemusic: then just feed it through tonnes of effects? hehe
Broadcaster4utechre: used the sounds loads
nixtrove: oh wow
4utechre: but also used as a sequencer
Broadcaster4utechre: the thing is u cant do any pitching over midi
nixtrove: Yea seemed like a capable sequencer for that period
Broadcaster4utechre: well u can but its not the same methos it uses for internal pitching
nixtrove: oh no octaves?
Broadcaster4utechre: like if u do a hi hat in r8 and vary pitch param in r8 it stays same midi note
nixtrove: ok i see it doesnt affect the data
Broadcaster4utechre: anyway yeah tons of our early stuff is just r8 sounds heavly edited pitched around etc
Broadcaster4utechre: like making a kick out of a tom or whatever
nixtrove: was there a workaround for the pitching?
nixtrove: yeah kicks of toms is dope
Broadcaster4utechre: no u just sequence the r8 internally
Broadcaster4utechre: anyone buying an r8m is doing it wrong
Broadcaster4utechre: basically
nixtrove: it just seems to be lyin around in ppl studios
nixtrove: collecting dust
tebbisimo: would u do it all with a view to make the machines do it from start to end?
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah its so editable though
tebbisimo: or just to sample and figure out live later
Broadcaster4utechre: like at the time was so OTT
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah so all tri rep was live takes sort of
Broadcaster4utechrethe arrangemnt would be mostly planned and then run thru it by feel
Broadcaster4utechredo it a few times until u do 'the one'
cognessence: That’s really old school! Nice ? It has that feel
nixtrove: yeah i love this livetake approach
Broadcaster4utechre: but some would be like the track made in creator and then we sort of mix it live, some we'd have the loops going and just do the arrange by ear
tebbisimo: thats even more amazing
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah it can be good
tebbisimo: so the core is there
Broadcaster4utechre: although maybe end up with tracks too long cos ur really into it idk lol
tebbisimo: then human tweaks for feel
nixtrove: those long tracks are something
Broadcaster4utechre: been working really differently recently not like these long jam things
tebbisimo: hahaha yeh man, then going through must be a nightmare.... Quarastice sounds like a time of many many versions hahaha
uviol8: so it's a mixed approach, planned and jammin
Broadcaster4utechre: this twitch thing is a red herring don't be fooled
ovalvoal: So when can we hear that recent new approach, then? ?
Broadcaster4utechre: idk warp saying last qtr 2020, but it depends on logistics which idk corona
Broadcaster4utechre: but its in progress
martybyrnemusic: would love to know the process that led to Confield's opening track, it seems to be like a major progression from the live jams and gear explorations mixed with getting deeper with the code / Max world, but it also sounds like neither. The tempo changes and morphing about seems so abstract to my ears, still. Was it different to how yous worked before or since?
tebbisimo: I think they got the cheeddar for full ozs now
Broadcaster4utechre: lol idk what the big deal with confield is
Broadcaster4utechre: that track yeah was a weird method i gues
nixtrove: Confield seemed to be a game changer for ppl idk
martybyrnemusic: hehe, I love it. But I see how some people would be like "where's the beats, maaaaan" but fuck those people. hehehe
uviol8: it has something different
tebbisimo: well its just a lazy persons way of saying
nixtrove: “Difficult”
tebbisimo: hahaha
tebbisimo: rite
mrgypsum: my favs untilted the beats!!!
Broadcaster4utechre: i think its just cos track one isnt what u normally call a steady beat
uviol8: weird yet normal weird
n05uchk3y: the basss slower sounds even nicer
n05uchk3y: melting in my brain like
uviol8: Yeah but ae has many trx Like that
martybyrnemusic: yeah, it's like this liquid metal sort of trickling thing, it's amazing
Broadcaster4utechre: like when u ask people why its a weird album they always think of only that track, maybe the last track
uviol8: bine 's also weird
nixtrove: in the mixes
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah bine
n05uchk3y: I think people will get this really in year 4040 aprox
tebbisimo: m,an MCR quarter
tebbisimo: who recorded that
Broadcaster4utechre: but the rest arent that weird i ***
tebbisimo: i fukkkin love that
Broadcaster4utechre: like sort of weird but not that weird
ovalvoal: I recall using Confield those years for studio monitors testing haha
Broadcaster4utechre: idk who recorded mcr qtr
Broadcaster4utechre: iirc we grabbed it of slsk
nixtrove: LOL
tebbisimo: its such a lovely recording
tebbisimo: like the energy is all sucked together
tebbisimo: and then when it breathes to like go round again
tebbisimo: man
n05uchk3y: then should be a sub bass even lower than 5 hz
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah best bootleg 10/10 would dl again
Broadcaster4utechrethe way i see the live things is its so far just 2 albums worth of stuff but with a ton of versions of one and a few of the other
tebbisimo: wld it have killed u to bookmark it
tebbisimo: i cba to cut em up
Broadcaster4utechre: lol
tebbisimo: but would be so good to cut them all up and listen to THAT TRACK
hellospiral: lol
tebbisimo: u know, the gd bit of C16 Deep tread that u didnt include
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah u can do that though i mean u can dl the wares for free
tebbisimo: the spiral head fuck crescendo ting
tebbisimo: yeh but thyyyyyyyyyme
Broadcaster4utechre: well same
tebbisimo: audacity sure but cba cant a warp temp do it
Broadcaster4utechre: NO
 
 
 
 
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well thanks for the chat report,

'coz i've been on twitch a few minutes, then leave for lunch with family just when the chat with Sean started,

then came back just when it was over  hahah  (nevermind, familly is way mor important) but ....

happy I will be able to read all this interesting stuff  (even if it feel like a paparrazi thing , quoting every single sing sean says on then chat to report...idk... well fuck it)

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hehe... well, i report only if i find something intersting or specifically funny... in this case there are a lot of technical tips and reviews that I'm sure many will be interested in ..i hope so, at last :cisfor:

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I think he's explained it before, no? At least the part about the RGB values. Not sure if it went into this much detail then.

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Broadcaster4utechre: everyone else can be a noise artist
ccribbe: have you shown any of this to chris cunningam yet
Broadcaster4utechre: chris would prob just laugh
Broadcaster4utechre: its all max and jitter this
metacodex4: to insert some boring grey brutalism textures
martybyrnemusic: class
Broadcaster4utechre: the audio all derives from the video signal
uviol8: i believen you reverred 2 it as the system
Broadcaster4utechre: so its a sort of group composition
rephlexwest: afternoon all
metacodex4: the audio is generated by the video itself ???
Broadcaster4utechre: it sounds better if post lots of coloured emotes
uviol8: i mean pure the music
nixtrove: Weirdcore melted my brain once. its total overload
...
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah all the synths are using the video signal as data
 
Broadcaster4utechre: also the drums but u cant tell as much
metacodex4: wow it really changes
metacodex4: maybe the velocity ?
uviol8: Ow Interesting
metacodex4: maybe you should write this into the description or so
martybyrnemusic: Lovely
uviol8: it's cool if u don't wanna Say
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah its a bit of a long description though
Broadcaster4utechre: not really into describing things
Broadcaster4utechre: but i can tell u how it works
uviol8: ok gonna be a big One?
metacodex4: only this i mean ; )
thetwistedprocess: thought it was the reverse relation
bamTommyS: i'd like to hear it
bamTommyS: if you don't mind saying
Broadcaster4utechre: pretty simple just swapped out the oscillators in a load of synths with a custom oscillator based on jit.peek~
metacodex4: i always wanted to acompany my music with visuals, i hope its not that complicated
nixtrove: i knew they were jit oscillators
metacodex4: awesome thanks !!!
Broadcaster4utechre: the custom osc is actually 3 oscillators
bamTommyS: what does colour do?
Broadcaster4utechre: so basically there are 3 colour channels, r g b
metacodex4: ah ok
Broadcaster4utechre: and each channel has its own oscillator
uviol8: can i ask musical question? how did u do All End
ccribbe: what a simple question^
metacodex4: loool
bamTommyS: that's cool, and weirdly simple
metacodex4: paulstretch
nixtrove: Red sounds tight
 
metacodex4: its evolving !
nixtrove: You could like hold a sustain pedal and bring up some strings or winds on a keyboard and layer notes and boom
nixtrove: All end
metacodex4: kick is louder now !
Broadcaster4utechrethe 3 oscillators are mixed using a kind of crossover
tebbisimo: how does the crossover work, cos my man was complaining it just picks the like, dominant Freak
tebbisimo: or spectrum or whatever
Broadcaster4utechre: so the red is lowest freq and blue is highest, green in the mid
tebbisimo: like there was no nuance for him
Broadcaster4utechre: did it by ear/taste/feel
martybyrnemusic: so is red : more bass? 
Broadcaster4utechre: sort of
Broadcaster4utechre: it depends
Broadcaster4utechre: like how ur then filtering the output of the osc
 
uviol8: u asked for red blue indeed,
martybyrnemusic: aha
Broadcaster4utechre: but yeah in general yellow sounds warm and colourful, red is war, blue is cool
uviol8: what was White 4
mrgypsum: i really like that the visuals have all been pretty varied on this channel there was like old bbc stuff and now stuff like this good diversity of stuff
metacodex4: if you would insert yoru faces you would get sort of an a e puzzle
Broadcaster4utechre: *warm
nixtrove: yellow rocks this one
tebbisimo: u said Robs gonna do a twitch????
Broadcaster4utechre: if you had only once oscillatr yeah u can re-encode into an image
tebbisimo: whats his called 8utechre
 
martybyrnemusic: hehe, red is war! Could be interesting... Certain colours dominating triggering some really wild card moments.
Broadcaster4utechre: but becasue there are many oscillators you get many overlaid differently scaled images
Broadcaster4utechrebt still u can sometimes make out the source
tebbisimo: no ketchup
tebbisimo: raw source
nixtrove: so the oscillators are modulating each other?
martybyrnemusic: yellow is doing some cool filtering it seems
Broadcaster4utechre: theres one fm synth in there
Broadcaster4utechre: doing the sort of chirp sound
nixtrove: i hear it its nice
Broadcaster4utechre: the rest are just straight what youd call digi subtractive
Broadcaster4utechre: but with this mutant jit.peek~ osc ting
nixtrove: long the random sustains
nixtrove: love
tebbisimo: and u upgraded the reverb eh
tebbisimo: cos some times its like corrr
Broadcaster4utechre: ah yeah
Broadcaster4utechre: its not really a reverb
tebbisimo: wot issit
Broadcaster4utechre: but it can do some reverby sounding things
tebbisimo: haha
tebbisimo: its a delay
tebbisimo: wait
rephlexwest: how would the patch respond to the tri repetae green/brown/grey color I wonder
nixtrove: its like EG
nixtrove: isnt it
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah sort of compound delay thing
bamTommyS: can we ask how you made other tracks?
Broadcaster4utechre: bit more configurable than a reverb but similar topology
tebbisimo: isnt reverb just a v small delay
AnotherJimmy: Is this just having fun or would you release anything based on this?
nixtrove: thats pretty cool as well
Broadcaster4utechre: theres tons of ways to do it tbh
Broadcaster4utechre: but yeha usually combs delays and apfs
nixtrove: do any colora affect this delay?
tebbisimo: yeh i remember in an interview u were like
nixtrove: s
tebbisimo: We just route off into delays and reverbs like x100
tebbisimo: and we sort of lose a bit of track of it all
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah i shove all kinds of random shit in there
tebbisimo: niiiice
Broadcaster4utechre: feedback loops supergood
tebbisimo: and then just make envelopes around the weirdness
nixtrove: there was this cool dissonant pad yesterday for a hot minute
tebbisimo: "just"
martybyrnemusic: so you mean, you've a load of different oscs / synths / beats etc going off into many different delay / feedback channels?
Broadcaster4utechre: usually control some aspect of the process in the loop yeah
uviol8: can i ask bout music
neurone45: dor thos who wants a bit of hint about how reverb works (old and new) : ***
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah when i used hardware was always routing things in weird nonlinear ways
tebbisimo: yeh i noticed in the machinedrum
tebbisimo: like wtf
diurn_: hello good morning all
tebbisimo: how u do dat
tebbisimo: mornin
cognessence: Good morning
pobelterzzzz: does anyone know if they use FL Studio and what sample pack is this?
Broadcaster4utechre: tbh i seen way more impressive stuff out there than out md bits
martybyrnemusic: how long have yous been NOT using hardware? 
:)
uviol8: mornin
Broadcaster4utechre: for ages now
Broadcaster4utechre: idk
tebbisimo: you kinda have to live through it yrself to make sense of it tho eh
Broadcaster4utechre: 10 years
nixtrove: s35an any tricks using a nord lead
tebbisimo: like I dunno, for me anyway
martybyrnemusic: I wondered if maybe yous had mad rigs of modular, but I'm actually chuffed to hear that that's not the case.
tebbisimo: why pay 300£ a pop when he can copy and paste from notepad
Broadcaster4utechre: wow u just reminded me of a whole nord lead thing i did in max ages ago
Broadcaster4utechre: might try to revive that
tebbisimo: niiiiiiice
nixtrove: That is the shit
hellospiral: 
<3
pobelterzzzz: s34n btw that spectral morphing part in the 2016/18 live sets, around 13 mins is my favorite sound i have ever heard, can't get enough of it
nixtrove: I picked up a rack version
cognessence: Nord Lead 3 so underrated!
nixtrove: Got the original it really sounds its time
tebbisimo: Are u or Russel undisputed king of the fart noises btw?
tebbisimo: or is it a patch u gave Russ
tebbisimo: like onesix is very gutteral
uviol8: Yeah what's that morphin sound in onesix
Broadcaster4utechre: russ has patches from a few people idk
martybyrnemusic: the Nord Lead has a powerful synth engine, right? And I think there's a software editor, so you can get into some deep places
Broadcaster4utechre: i think i only ever made him a dj thing
tebbisimo: ahhh fair, I thought he was using ur AE_live bits for Russ_Live
nixtrove: pls revive the nord that would be so damn dope
Broadcaster4utechre: the nord lead doesnt need a software editor
Broadcaster4utechre: idk if there is one
cognessence: It’s true, the interface is so easy
Broadcaster4utechre: i mean its sort of good because of no menu diving
nixtrove: Its a beautiful machine
Broadcaster4utechre: all there on the panel
nixtrove: yeah
Broadcaster
4utechre: one of fastest synths for me
nixtrove: Was used a lot on cichlisuite?
solojazzcup: not sure if anyone's asked this yet, but where do you get your ideas from
martybyrnemusic: lol
pobelterzzzz: lol
Broadcaster4utechre: also has a sor tof weirdly distinct thin but nice sound sort of glassy and delicate
Broadcaster4utechre: depending which one they all sound a bit diff
nixtrove: It has amazing engines and it rlly is all so simple
nixtrove: Yeah glassy
martybyrnemusic: I'm picturing you sort of hacking it to incorporate it into some glitchy generative stuff
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah u can do a bit with sysex
nixtrove: Would be cool to dust off and use if you got it lyin around
Broadcaster4utechre: the thing i found though was i had to limit controller data
diurn_: do you like any stuff from behringer? lately they're doing dope synths
diurn_: Im in love w/ deepmind one
Broadcaster4utechre: like it breaks if u send it too much even though it can receive it all
nixtrove: Theres a panic button
uviol8: Well, hmm, more of a bass player myself. Don't have a clue bout this technical stuff
martybyrnemusic: breaks but not in the nice way? hehe
nixtrove: press button to panic lol
Broadcaster4utechre: but if i do something like quantize the controller data to 16ths its a fucking beast
4utechre: can handle quite a bit of input then
nixtrove: Yea id sequence it with other shit for basic 16 step stuff
nixtrove: i*
uviol8: is xflood same fx used as One - six live recordings
cognessence: That’s so interesting. Like overloading too much polyphony into a synth you’ve made purposefully lower to make nice sounds with note stealing ?
nixtrove: but could go way more
nixtrove: yeah note stealing is so fun
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah shit the voice stealing on the first nord leads was hilarious
Broadcaster4utechre: so we abused it loads
nixtrove: What did you mean about drum maps?
Broadcaster4utechre: like if u got 4 sounds in the track off that u can get all sorts of weird choking/quick morph action
martybyrnemusic: aaaah nice
nixtrove: Oh yeah the layers there, if you sequenced each of them diff
nixtrove: get some overlaps
nixtrove: oversteps
rephlexwest: overlapsteps
nixtrove: Idk i magically found one in mtl
nixtrove: Would not expect to find one
rephlexwest: stepoverlaps
nixtrove: I did 13k steps yesterday btw
nixtrove: Wheres my medal
cognessence: “weirdly distinct thin but nice sound sort of glassy and delicate” sums up NL so well, it’s why it always works in some many contexts easily with little need for faffing compared to others
rephlexwest: nice
cognessence: *so many
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah clavia are smart to hang onto their algos and go after keyboard players, but still the g2 was a kind of pinnacle imo
Broadcaster4utechre: and the lead basic template isnt gonna age ever
rephlexwest: I wish I understood like a quarter of all the tech jargon going on here rn lol
Broadcaster4utechre: they should do a proper full software release of g2 imo
uviol8: me too ?
martybyrnemusic: you reckon it wouldn't lose anything in the digital domain?
nixtrove: Its really solid. the fm knob there especs
martybyrnemusic: Is it all digital anyway?
Broadcaster4utechre: it might yeah
Broadcaster4utechre: but i doubt it
cognessence: There would be a tonne of interest for sure!
Broadcaster4utechre: think u could emu what need to
Broadcaster4utechre: its nice having nord sound and that workflow
martybyrnemusic: maybe you'd lose that choking / stealing thing ... or they could offer you that mode... To make it more like the real thing.
Broadcaster4utechre: i prob prefer using max anyway these days but i like having their sound in that domain
nixtrove: Youd sequence a nord on max?
Broadcaster4utechre: i used to quie a bit
Broadcaster4utechre: not now at all
Broadcaster4utechre: been 100% itb for ages now
Master_Chang: o/ all
rephlexwest: do you do much field recordings nowadays btw?
Broadcaster4utechre: none really
Broadcaster4utechre: not that i dont enjoy that kind of stuff tons
nixtrove: Its funny how getting out of the box kind of makes you still go in the box
MirandaGemini: we're sounding very menacing today
cognessence: I want a Yamaha FS1R in software! Love the plastic sound. Not paying that much for a module again
rephlexwest: what was the last irl object you recorded, and used in a track?
Broadcaster4utechre: fs1r is amazing i gave mine to daz fitton though
martybyrnemusic: see the live stuff, are yous turning up with your max system and just hitting play and seeing what happens? Do yous set some new variables and parameters before each show?
martybyrnemusic: Are they based on things specific to that time or place, or more just arbitrary and whatever feels good at the time? ( I'm being very nosey now hehehe)
Broadcaster4utechre: sometimes theres some little tweaks before we go on but its mainly just see what happens
nixtrove: does tri repetae have that nord/max seq stuff i kind of hear it there
monoppus: what sample rate u guys work at?
martybyrnemusic: amazing
nixtrove: dw im makin coffee you can go on
4utechre: no nord on tri rep no that was a couple of years before
nixtrove: O right im 20 anyway jeez
pobelterzzzz: not sure if you remember, during onesix in Tourcoing, at the chord part round 44mins, sounded like some cpu issues and the silence part never came, it was just blasting the chords for a few mins 
:D
 was that intentional? sounded really sick tho
nixtrove: By the time i was born youll have done so much shit already
Broadcaster4utechre: ok so yeah in 95 we had quite a diff setup
diurn_: can you recommend me any max/msp devices? I guess that you're using a lo of gate'd effects
Broadcaster4utechre: the main computer was atari st
tebbisimo: i like this bit
nixtrove: Nice atari
Broadcaster4utechre: running c-lab creator
tebbisimo: corrrr
Broadcaster4utechre: and then we had loads of hardware but mosty roland gear
nixtrove: Oh yeah never asked about software you used before max
nixtrove: how was C lab? was it grid style?
cognessence: I like the Alessi Midi/quadraverb (?) vibe from that era, so rusty murky nice vivid reverb spaces
Broadcaster4utechre: nah creator is cool its weird though sort of like a tracker for midi
Broadcaster4utechre: and can do live jamming by muting unmuting midi channels
Broadcaster4utechre: and can record the muting etc
monoppus: the event list
Broadcaster4utechre: its a cool program
prefuturism_0: which tecker alllllbum sounds the most colourful?
Broadcaster4utechre: also had groove mapping before anything else
nixtrove: Yeah sounds sick. do youd link up all the gear into creator and basically jam?
Broadcaster4utechre: lot of the weird timing stuff on chiastic was done with c-lab
agecp: Really dig sunvox as a tracker
Broadcaster
4utechre: yeah
Broadcaster4utechre: the roland r8 was like our main drum machine
agecp: So poweful
Broadcaster4utechre: cos it had the sort of mpc workflow but was pre-mpc
Broadcaster4utechre: also it has tape sync and din sync as well as midi sync
Broadcaster4utechre: so very fucking useful
nixtrove: Yea i discovered it at a friends and hes a bit older so i was intrigued about the R8 for some time
Broadcaster4utechre: as a result was the centre of the tudio p much
Broadcaster4utechre: *s
nixtrove: Heard you only used it to sequence not the sounds themselves?
martybyrnemusic: then just feed it through tonnes of effects? hehe
Broadcaster4utechre: used the sounds loads
nixtrove: oh wow
4utechre: but also used as a sequencer
Broadcaster4utechre: the thing is u cant do any pitching over midi
nixtrove: Yea seemed like a capable sequencer for that period
Broadcaster4utechre: well u can but its not the same methos it uses for internal pitching
nixtrove: oh no octaves?
Broadcaster4utechre: like if u do a hi hat in r8 and vary pitch param in r8 it stays same midi note
nixtrove: ok i see it doesnt affect the data
Broadcaster4utechre: anyway yeah tons of our early stuff is just r8 sounds heavly edited pitched around etc
Broadcaster4utechre: like making a kick out of a tom or whatever
nixtrove: was there a workaround for the pitching?
nixtrove: yeah kicks of toms is dope
Broadcaster4utechre: no u just sequence the r8 internally
Broadcaster4utechre: anyone buying an r8m is doing it wrong
Broadcaster4utechre: basically
nixtrove: it just seems to be lyin around in ppl studios
nixtrove: collecting dust
tebbisimo: would u do it all with a view to make the machines do it from start to end?
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah its so editable though
tebbisimo: or just to sample and figure out live later
Broadcaster4utechre: like at the time was so OTT
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah so all tri rep was live takes sort of
Broadcaster4utechrethe arrangemnt would be mostly planned and then run thru it by feel
Broadcaster4utechredo it a few times until u do 'the one'
cognessence: That’s really old school! Nice ? It has that feel
nixtrove: yeah i love this livetake approach
Broadcaster4utechre: but some would be like the track made in creator and then we sort of mix it live, some we'd have the loops going and just do the arrange by ear
tebbisimo: thats even more amazing
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah it can be good
tebbisimo: so the core is there
Broadcaster4utechre: although maybe end up with tracks too long cos ur really into it idk lol
tebbisimo: then human tweaks for feel
nixtrove: those long tracks are something
Broadcaster4utechre: been working really differently recently not like these long jam things
tebbisimo: hahaha yeh man, then going through must be a nightmare.... Quarastice sounds like a time of many many versions hahaha
uviol8: so it's a mixed approach, planned and jammin
Broadcaster4utechre: this twitch thing is a red herring don't be fooled
ovalvoal: So when can we hear that recent new approach, then? ?
Broadcaster4utechre: idk warp saying last qtr 2020, but it depends on logistics which idk corona
Broadcaster4utechre: but its in progress
martybyrnemusic: would love to know the process that led to Confield's opening track, it seems to be like a major progression from the live jams and gear explorations mixed with getting deeper with the code / Max world, but it also sounds like neither. The tempo changes and morphing about seems so abstract to my ears, still. Was it different to how yous worked before or since?
tebbisimo: I think they got the cheeddar for full ozs now
Broadcaster4utechre: lol idk what the big deal with confield is
Broadcaster4utechre: that track yeah was a weird method i gues
nixtrove: Confield seemed to be a game changer for ppl idk
martybyrnemusic: hehe, I love it. But I see how some people would be like "where's the beats, maaaaan" but fuck those people. hehehe
uviol8: it has something different
tebbisimo: well its just a lazy persons way of saying
nixtrove: “Difficult”
tebbisimo: hahaha
tebbisimo: rite
mrgypsum: my favs untilted the beats!!!
Broadcaster4utechre: i think its just cos track one isnt what u normally call a steady beat
uviol8: weird yet normal weird
n05uchk3y: the basss slower sounds even nicer
n05uchk3y: melting in my brain like
uviol8: Yeah but ae has many trx Like that
martybyrnemusic: yeah, it's like this liquid metal sort of trickling thing, it's amazing
Broadcaster4utechre: like when u ask people why its a weird album they always think of only that track, maybe the last track
uviol8: bine 's also weird
nixtrove: in the mixes
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah bine
n05uchk3y: I think people will get this really in year 4040 aprox
tebbisimo: m,an MCR quarter
tebbisimo: who recorded that
Broadcaster4utechre: but the rest arent that weird i ***
tebbisimo: i fukkkin love that
Broadcaster4utechre: like sort of weird but not that weird
ovalvoal: I recall using Confield those years for studio monitors testing haha
Broadcaster4utechre: idk who recorded mcr qtr
Broadcaster4utechre: iirc we grabbed it of slsk
nixtrove: LOL
tebbisimo: its such a lovely recording
tebbisimo: like the energy is all sucked together
tebbisimo: and then when it breathes to like go round again
tebbisimo: man
n05uchk3y: then should be a sub bass even lower than 5 hz
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah best bootleg 10/10 would dl again
Broadcaster4utechrethe way i see the live things is its so far just 2 albums worth of stuff but with a ton of versions of one and a few of the other
tebbisimo: wld it have killed u to bookmark it
tebbisimo: i cba to cut em up
Broadcaster4utechre: lol
tebbisimo: but would be so good to cut them all up and listen to THAT TRACK
hellospiral: lol
tebbisimo: u know, the gd bit of C16 Deep tread that u didnt include
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah u can do that though i mean u can dl the wares for free
tebbisimo: the spiral head fuck crescendo ting
tebbisimo: yeh but thyyyyyyyyyme
Broadcaster4utechre: well same
tebbisimo: audacity sure but cba cant a warp temp do it
Broadcaster4utechre: NO
 
 
 
 

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3 hours ago, Draft78 said:

hehe... well, i report only if i find something intersting or specifically funny... in this case there are a lot of technical tips and reviews that I'm sure many will be interested in ..i hope so, at last :cisfor:

yeah you're totally right . paparazzi would be if you sneak into his personal life, wich is not the case. i was stupid. (though it was almost a joke in a way)

anyway thanks I'm the first to be happy to read it

 

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