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28 minutes ago, Stickfigger said:

Guys, if you don't have anything to hide, what's the problem? 

You guys only care about this coz ya'll druggies

sounds great until nazis take over and mine internet logs for anyone who seems associated with anti-fascism, socialism, communism, etc. then they kill them

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Take it off the rack, if it's wack, put it back

I like the whopper, fuck the big mac

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Just now, Zeffolia said:

sounds great until nazis take over and mine internet logs for anyone who seems associated with anti-fascism, socialism, communism, etc. then they kill them

Wolfenstein: Panoptikon

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Roughly 30% of Americans have "smart" speakers in their homes. Commercial wiretaps. A lot of surveillance cameras hooked up to cloud services too. The market has spoken. Nobody seems to care and they actually pay to be mined.

I used to try to reduce my footprint but at this point you're probably better off just blending in with the noise. You stand out more if you try not to stand out. I'm still not going to be buying a smart speaker or using voice commands but unless you want to just completely avoid society you're going to be cataloged in a system somewhere nowadays, it's just unavoidable.

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Just don't use the deep web to buy ingredients to manufacture cocaine/smuggle humans/sell or buy firearms/dispatch hitmen/fund militias, etc.

This is like getting caught passing a note in class and you will be disciplined thoroughly. 

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7 hours ago, Zeffolia said:

sounds great until nazis take over and mine internet logs for anyone who seems associated with anti-fascism, socialism, communism, etc. then they kill them

You mean China?

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Not trying to hurt any feelings but most consumer "security" you think you can make yourself "safe" with is cosplay. Keep paying for VPNs though if it makes you feel better.

I did enterprise networking, firewalls, system administration, threat and vulnerability management, reverse engineering, incident response, etc for 15 years as a career. A lot of that time was also spent on continuing education and training, working with law enforcement, attending conferences, collaborating with vendors to help them add capabilities to their products, etc. I'm reasonably educated with signals intelligence and countermeasures as it relates to the basic internet communications domain for commercial use.

If you wind up on someone's radar who wants to see what you're up to, you aren't going to get out from under that. Not saying that's right or wrong, it's just reality.

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Indica, occasional Sativa, or the middle ground with a hybrid like SAGE (Sativa Afghan Genetic Equilsomething)

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I have no idea what this thread is about anymore

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17 hours ago, chenGOD said:

Shit, @Joyrex we're done here. Time to call Snowden and see if we can't get as sweet a deal as he he's got.

Does this mean Richard and Rob and Sean all get to be reassigned to some other genre, like folk or blues?

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37 minutes ago, Joyrex said:

Does this mean Richard and Rob and Sean all get to be reassigned to some other genre, like folk or blues?

I thought we'd agreed that Richard would get hair metal and Rob and Sean get Kentucky Bluegrass?

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2 hours ago, hijexx said:

Not trying to hurt any feelings but most consumer "security" you think you can make yourself "safe" with is cosplay. Keep paying for VPNs though if it makes you feel better.

I did enterprise networking, firewalls, system administration, threat and vulnerability management, reverse engineering, incident response, etc for 15 years as a career. A lot of that time was also spent on continuing education and training, working with law enforcement, attending conferences, collaborating with vendors to help them add capabilities to their products, etc. I'm reasonably educated with signals intelligence and countermeasures as it relates to the basic internet communications domain for commercial use.

If you wind up on someone's radar who wants to see what you're up to, you aren't going to get out from under that. Not saying that's right or wrong, it's just reality.

 

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^ yep! Also you can't really prove a negative. You can have your stuff locked down like a fortress but there could still be a zero day being exploited right under your nose and you wouldn't know it.

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Intelligence services monitor politicians and we have to trust them not to interfere in democratic processes with that amount of information/power at hand. Media owners have all the data they need to influence public opinion and elections effectively. Monopolies of power profit from forming cartels to solidify their power. Market disturbances like democracy and free will are now a manageable factor and with the help of artificial intelligence and machine learning these developments might become more severe at an exponential rate.

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1 hour ago, hijexx said:

^ yep! Also you can't really prove a negative. You can have your stuff locked down like a fortress but there could still be a zero day being exploited right under your nose and you wouldn't know it.

ya.  and if there isn't an exploit they will hire a worker to work on the codebase of software you use and sneak one in.  there is no limit to their reach

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/technology/jeff-bezos-hack-iphone.html

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8 hours ago, Zeffolia said:

ya.  and if there isn't an exploit they will hire a worker to work on the codebase of software you use and sneak one in.  there is no limit to their reach

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/technology/jeff-bezos-hack-iphone.html

They exploited a security hole in WhatsApp, and it looks like Bezos clicked on something to allow a video to play. Still, because of sandboxing (not unique to apple) it could only access WhatsApp. 
pretty shoddy security practice from Bezos. 

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At least Bezos got off with just a hacked phone instead of getting literally hacked. With a bone saw. Like Jamal Khashoggi did.

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