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Spotify CEO Daniel Ek says working musicians can no longer release music only “once every three to four years.” Spotify's stock value hit all-time highs of $50 billion this summer.


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in the future all of culture will be a rube goldberg machine comprised wholly of bots & self-generating strings of code. hopelessly atomized, the individual meat-operator finally manages to disentangle himself from the remnents of western society become global simulation matrix, and re-enters the forest. all valuation signifiers have become iredeemably corroded. now there is only the world of your senses & the sound of my voice

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2 minutes ago, Cryptowen said:

this thread title is to music what onlyfans is to bodies. second order simulacra. a copy of the copy. with past iterations of the social media model (ie instagram) there was still the illusion presented that this might be the sort of person you'd run into at the grocery store & take out on a coffee date - u are, after all, on social media, not reading some hollywood insider mag. obviously smoke & mirrors, of course - the most popular photos are heaviily staged, touched up, made up, algorhythmized, etc etc. But still, the illusion is presented. The real illusion is not the context presented by the photo, but the implicit suggestion that perhaps someone somewhere still might be able to believe in that illusion. with onlyfans even this is taken away. it becomes pure business, pure capital accumulation, pure transaction. success is measured in # of simps per capita

music becomes quantatative distributive model. all thoughts of the qualitative are gone. no time for anything to become nostalgic anymore. everything fluid. metrics, analytics. make sure you've got the right funny reaction face, font, and emojis on your yotuube thumbnail. gotta pump those numbers up kid. there is a flattening of the distance between creator & consumer. the roles are essentially the same now. quantity of music produced/consumed this week. all aesthetic distinction becomes amorphic as proliferation reaches infinity. every form imaginable, all at once. every song becomes white noise. every song becomes the brown note. every song feels like shitting but the shit never lands.

in the future all of culture will be a rube goldberg machine comprised wholly of bots & self-generating strings of code. hopelessly atomized, the individual meat-operator finally manages to disentangle himself from the remnents of western society become global simulation matrix, and re-enters the forest. all valuation signifiers have become iredeemably corroded. now there is only the world of your senses & the sound of my voice

dj spooky, is that you?

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44 minutes ago, nikisoko said:

dj spooky, is that you?

lol. not enough "flip the script" or talk of "the oldest profession" to pass as a paul d miller aka dj spooka aka dat subliminal kid PhD joint

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8 hours ago, Cryptowen said:

One time they put DJ Spooky on at my last job & I clowned on it so hard that the guy who put it on came up to me after work to reprimand me

lol

when I worked at a bookstore I used to keep a copy of his book under the register and randomly read it aloud and people usually thought I was making it up

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20 hours ago, Alcofribas said:

bro he is cringe lol

 

(to be fair I’m just goofing on his writings, not his musique. I’ve actually only ever heard like 2 of his tracks)

I’ve never read anything he’s written but DJ Spooky is great...

 

 

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My suspicion with AI generated music or AI generated content writ large is that it'll be kinda like CGI in movies, ie always feeling like it's on the verge of making it across the uncanny valley, but never quite succeeding. Every development of the technology will ultimately serve only to improve people's instinctual ability to pick up on incresingly subtle "fake" signifiers. You'll look back at something from 20 years ago & say, "oh, that's completely awful, how did anyone ever think that was realistic?", even though at the time everyone was raving about it being almost human.

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26 minutes ago, snack master said:

dj spooky gave a talk at the university i worked at a while back, and the out-of-touch head of academics introduced him as "dj spoopy"

reminded me of that seinfeld episode. 

 

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Big Spooky fan here. I haven't read anything of his and don't think I will. Lots of good artists come across as tools in their political/philosophical writing, not least RDJ and Jenkinson. 

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To truly untangle the mindset that music tech will save us, we’d also want to address power relations more systemically, and how decisions are made. We would need to think about how to truly shift power so that musicians, music workers, and music communities could have a say in how socialized streaming services are built, and participate in how they’re run. We would need to democratize the governance of music streaming. This would represent a broader move towards a cultural sphere where people have a say in shaping the digital tools they rely on every day, and in making sure these tools reflect the interests of those who use them.

Socialized Streaming: A case for universal music access (Real Life)

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