TheBro Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 I prefer Summer Reverb personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 4 hours ago, thawkins said: I prefer Summer Reverb personally. Less oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limo Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 In all seriousness, for spring reverb it's probably best to use a convolution reverb and load it with spring impulses. Springs are really hard to model algorithmically. Also, if you have hardware, just buy a cheap spring tank and hook it up to your mixing desk. You'll need to crank the gain going in and after it comes back out and you'll need to do some serious EQ-ing but it beats buying a dedicated unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Well there is no strict need to model a spring algorithmically as long as the end result sort of sounds like a spring reverb. That said I have no idea what to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 You can make a spring style reverb in Ableton, as long as you don’t need the cheesy spring pop sounds. set the quality to eco, size to below 2, and diffusion filter to a pretty aggressive bandpass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 I only have the Eventide Spring, not sure if I like it though. Sounds quite artificial. My AKG BX15 is way better, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, sheatheman said: You can make a spring style reverb in Ableton, as long as you don’t need the cheesy spring pop sounds. Them's fightin words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 just some bullshit i made in like 3 minutes. sounds close enough for my needs. you could go a lot further with some fx chaining and some parametric EQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Willing to bet some squid that TheBro is not looking to make surf rock though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 more of a response to chim's post tbh. but my point is the ableton reverb has parameters to get you almost anywhere you need to be. it's a fantastic plugin. spring reverb is really about the resonant frequencies of a spring that bring out guitar tones really well, but you can apply that theory to any sound. its all about the diffusion network baby. a size parameter helps also, which i guess is the math that handles the reflections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBro Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, thawkins said: Willing to bet some squid that TheBro is not looking to make surf rock though... Nah I've always wanted some sort of Spring Reverb whether its hardware or software for dub mainly. I'm trying some dub at the moment lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 I've still never heard a convincing digital spring reverb, not even close, but fake sounding digital spring is its own sound. That said the closest I've heard is the Accutronics bricks, but those are more hybrid because they're three or four digital delay lines running on independent clocks so they drift against each other and act kind of like springs, but they're all summed in analog. It's not a reverb but I remember this being an OK physical model of springs, and I haven't tried it since v2 came out: http://www.taron.de/lots/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limo Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 4 hours ago, TheBro said: Nah I've always wanted some sort of Spring Reverb whether its hardware or software for dub mainly. I'm trying some dub at the moment lol. Dub definitely needs the 5 hours ago, sheatheman said: cheesy spring pop sounds. If you don't need them (btw: f*** you ) why on earth would you want a spring reverb? If it's just about the EQ profile then, yes, something like you did in the Ableton video above will suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 It’s a primitive method, and all of the springy qualities are artifacts of the method. I like the tone of a spring reverb but don’t really want to open it up and thump it to get all experimental. I love a real spring but kind of despise the digital versions of pops and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanobot Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 If I were to get one, it would be Twangstrom from u-he I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Aren't they fairly easy to make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Sort of. The biggest real Accutronics tanks (not the digital brick they license from Belton) is only like $20 and the driver circuitry you need to actually make it sound decent isn't that expensive or complicated (putting it directly on an aux send will sort of work but it's usually really noisy and the last tank I did that with regularly stopped working, which may or may not be related), but nobody really makes an affordable line level kit or anything that I know of. This looks good but $120 is really expensive for what it is: http://hamptone.com/products/sr1-kit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Sensi Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 The u-he one is fun, but I stick to convolution for spring. Been using ConvologyXT since it's a free plugin. One spring reverb that has really interested me is the UAD AKG BX 20 plugin, demo I heard sounded really nice, don't own a Universl Audio thingy so it's out of the question, no idea of it's using convolution or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limo Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 4 hours ago, TubularCorporation said: Sort of. The biggest real Accutronics tanks (not the digital brick they license from Belton) is only like $20 and the driver circuitry you need to actually make it sound decent isn't that expensive or complicated (putting it directly on an aux send will sort of work but it's usually really noisy and the last tank I did that with regularly stopped working, which may or may not be related), but nobody really makes an affordable line level kit or anything that I know of. This looks good but $120 is really expensive for what it is: http://hamptone.com/products/sr1-kit/ The driver circuit is nothing but two amplifiers, and maybe a bit of EQ, however. You can do the amplification in your mixing desk and the EQ-ing in your DAW. Noise is part of the charm, IMHO but YMMV of course. Mine occasionally stops working too but that’s because the cables are home made (sloppily). I’d say go for a tank, and get a big one so you can have a long decay (which you can then shorten in your DAW if you want). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thawkins Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 hours ago, TubularCorporation said: This looks good but $120 is really expensive for what it is: http://hamptone.com/products/sr1-kit/ Really suspicious that the kit has no actual spring in the list of components. Maybe it's just that I don't know the first thing about spring reverbs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, thawkins said: no actual spring Contrary to popular belief, the "spring" in spring reverb actually refers to the season. You'll notice it'll sound like rubbish any other time of the year. Not enough pollen to make a proper connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 It would be interesting to build my own spring reverb with some insane spring set up. Like super long springs or a dozen different springs with different harmonic frequencies etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 36 minutes ago, thawkins said: Really suspicious that the kit has no actual spring in the list of components. Maybe it's just that I don't know the first thing about spring reverbs though. It says reverb tanks are required. I guess something like this: https://en.uraltone.com/electronic-components/reverb-tanks.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iococoi Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Quote 60 Classic and King Tubby style spring reverb impulse responses for convolution reverb http://www.dubbhism.org/2008/10/free-download-60-classic-and-king-tubby.html some free springs there: https://fokkie.home.xs4all.nl/IR.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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