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6 hours ago, fumi said:

I'm just not that much of a hardcore AE fan that I just want to keep listening to it over and over (and over) again until I've convinced myself it's an amazing piece of work (which it isn't) IMO.

the well-known technique of listening to an album over and over (and over) until it rules

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7 minutes ago, toaoaoad said:

I think a lot of the Quaristice hate arose out of the fact that it was a 3 year wait between albums (I think their longest gap ever?) So there was a lot of time for fans to build expectations, and Untilted was a tough act to follow. That initial reception seems to have kinda lingered with a lot of longtime fans. Content-wise I think it has stood the test of time and contains a lot of solid material, and definitely marked a new era where they started to reveal a lot more about their process. 

that's such a consumerist perspective

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2 minutes ago, cyanobacteria said:

that's such a consumerist perspective

Lol - I just mean that's what I observed (was lurking at the time of its release) and most people were whining about how it didn't live up to what they expected in some form or another.  Personally I liked it quite a bit from the get-go, but I do remember that 3 years feeling quite long.

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Oversteps sounded fresh and exciting (big, different) when it came out... it was springtime, it felt fresh. d sho qub. SIGN, not so much. it feels a lil stale, rote. i'll take formulaic AFX over this, thirty-five times out of thirty-six. maybe [SIGN]'ll sound better on the stereo?

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I haven't figured out my own opinion on this yet, hello, some parts are really beautiful, I bet it would be a good introduction for somebody curious to get into their not-early material but finding the heavier mixes of exai and elseq a bit too inaccessible. This one's more focused on a particular section of the sound and I think it's really cool to hear that, but maybe it lacks some range

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38 minutes ago, Spamlet said:

I haven't figured out my own opinion on this yet, hello, some parts are really beautiful, I bet it would be a good introduction for somebody curious to get into their not-early material but finding the heavier mixes of exai and elseq a bit too inaccessible. This one's more focused on a particular section of the sound and I think it's really cool to hear that, but maybe it lacks some range

I was going to describe this as an “accessible” autechre album earlier but figured I’d get raked over the coals. Find some of the chords pretty simple and straightforward which is not what I’m used to from them.

Im not complaining as this is one of the more enjoyable releases of theirs (for me) in years despite the general lack of beats etc. I guess I’m kinda conflicted lol 😂

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It's kinda the exact album I was wanting them to make, the gorgeous synth textures with the drums peeled back a bit! If that idea turns out to have limitations then it's my fault, sorry guys. But I think Metaz form8 and M4 Lema are gonna be some of my favs from them forever, and that different ppl seem to gravitate toward different tracks (as usual) is a good sign i'd say

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SIGN is an ae album that really requires you to relearn and come at it from a different angle to that you might be accustomed, it isn't really a matter of accessibility or simplicity or range. It impresses their rich command of sound design more than ever before really, "the piano is dumb" comment feels very relevant here. It almost feels like an interplay between the themes and embellishments, like one remixing the others demos. Grandma managing to smile a "that's nice, dear" to SIGN is missing the point of what makes SIGN a little special.

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Oct 30 thing is because of a second pressing/mailing sesh. A few days ago there were two options for vinyl: 16 and 30. One for the first batch of pre-orders and then the other for the next WAVE. Maybe the pre-order batch sold out but more likely it's because lol you ain't getting that shit in your mail four days from now so you gotta wait if you're ordering today

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7 minutes ago, cyanobacteria said:

the pads and depth of texture in Metaz form8 makes it so unique and good.  it has so much to soak in

Sorry, just to be clear - you're consuming this audio? Did you download it for free/pirate it?

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Also I haven't listened to this yet tbh. I've had a busy weekend and I want to fully dedicate my aettention for the first play. After dealing with the bullshit of owning a Chromebook and an iPhone

:facepalm:, I'm set to tube in tomorrow morning on my commute!

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1 hour ago, Roo said:

SIGN is an ae album that really requires you to relearn and come at it from a different angle to that you might be accustomed, it isn't really a matter of accessibility or simplicity or range. It impresses their rich command of sound design more than ever before really, "the piano is dumb" comment feels very relevant here. It almost feels like an interplay between the themes and embellishments, like one remixing the others demos. Grandma managing to smile a "that's nice, dear" to SIGN is missing the point of what makes SIGN a little special.

Yea I don't think I would like this near as much if I wasn't listening on good headphones. Wanna give it a shot loud on the stereo sometime soon, sometime I don't feel like I'd be annoying the ppl I live with. (Car stereo would be a cool format too I bet.) The sound design is top-notch no doubt, such that it genuinely plays an active role in what you'd traditionally call the "composition." I don't think that in itself is really new for Autechre, but I admire how the album seems constructed in a way which foregrounds that tendency. And that's kind of what I mean when I say it's accessible... there's a clarity to the purpose of this thing, which I don't think you need to already know their stuff to recognize. 

But there are tracks whose core structure wear on my ears, because all the interest is in the role played by what I'm calling sound design. th red a sounds like those chords are generating lovely trails of polyphony - but six and a half minutes sure is a long time to lean on the chord loops driving those trails. On older albums, that (truly great) secondary voice burping away would simply be louder in the mix, I think, and also there would be some drum chaos. And maybe that would make those chords feel less underwhelming simply by obscuring them? Maybe it would also make those trails of polyphony even more intriguing in the same way - can't hear them as clearly so they sound even more intriguing.  So maybe letting sound ideas play soloist in tracks which lack all the "noise," elements which could be said to be obscurantist (I'd personally say maximalist instead) makes this a more confident album, arguably a more honest one, and probably a necessary one in a complete exploration of their sound.

psin AM feels like it may be the track which demonstrates the uncompromising logical extension of this concept: everything that's not that three-chord synth loop is really quiet in the mix. The details back there are tight, but for me, keeping my attention on them instead of the dullness of the loop requires active attention. The minimalism at this point is no longer in service of foregrounding the sound design, now the simple part is the obscuring element. And it's genuinely an intruiging thing, if we accept some immediate unpleasantness as a necessary ingredient in plumbing the artful depths (which we do)

For me though, the style of austere minimalism presented on elseq in tracks like spaces how V, eastre, and pendulu casual is more immediately pleasing. how come autechre's like always in 4/4, anyway

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