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alco review by alco:   this is the new "autechre" album by them, the brothers. it's called "sign" which is short for "signs." i believe this is an m night shaymalan (or whatever) reference a

the autechre brothers. "the signs" in 2020. october. i forget the date. i'm meeting up with them, the "boys" of autechre. sean, the one who thinks its sick to make beats super wacky is smoking a cigar

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10 hours ago, tailings said:

A favorite Coil track of mine, but unmistakably Coil indeed.  

 

I can only assume your lack of familiarity with this song and/or detachment while doing the dishes. 

Indeed, detached while doing dishes – certainly wasn't wearing headphones and hearing every little detail. Bluetooth speaker playing at low to medium volume. Low quality and volume can lead to wildly different comparisons than high quality attentive listens.

Will be interesting to revisit the song today and perhaps give SIGN another spin.

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1 minute ago, sidewinder said:

Indeed, detached while doing dishes – certainly wasn't wearing headphones and hearing every little detail. Bluetooth speaker playing at low to medium volume. Low quality and volume can lead to wildly different comparisons than high quality attentive listens.

Will be interesting to revisit the song today and perhaps give SIGN another spin.

There was actually a "remix"of Dark River years ago that was being passed around on peer to peer sites that was labeled as an Autechre remix. I put remix in quotes because it was basically just Dark River with a drum beat added to the end and it definitely wasn't Autechre. 

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19 minutes ago, xox said:

reviews (get 0)

interviews (yes pls)

reviews are really uninteresting, but it is true that it is quite rare to find statements that reveal that whoever wrote them really listened to Ae, and it 's for this exception that I posted them. Interviews, we know, are rare

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12 hours ago, Hugh Mughnus said:

I mean, there are vague similarities but I don’t think I’d ever mistake Coil for AE or vice versa? Maybe for a fleeting moment but I wouldn’t be head scratching...

 

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1 hour ago, Draft78 said:

reviews are really uninteresting, but it is true that it is quite rare to find statements that reveal that whoever wrote them really listened to Ae, and it 's for this exception that I posted them. Interviews, we know, are rare

yes, the point is what can i learn about ae in a review? i just get irritated! if you can find someone that understand ae better than i do (we do) i'd be happy to learn something new. quite arrogant, i know, but what can i say. i'm an arrogant ass 🙂 ...and we are the dreamers of dreams!

there's several levels or points to talk about: known musical theory, technical side of it, repertoire and philosophy of music. if anyone wants to learn anything worthwhile about ae, watmm is the place bc we've been covering all the points like no one else

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I ended up waiting until this past Saturday for my first listen to SIGN. I had a few buddies over and sat outside in my backyard with a raging fire and did some star photography. The warmth and colors of the fire as well as staring at the stars lent very well to the overall mood of this album (as well as various substances :P). I obviously had read a bunch about it and was keeping up with this thread but I definitely took away my own views from this and further listens. First impressions were just that it was crazy warm, lush and hyper-detailed. M4 Lema, Metaz form8, schmefd 2 and r cazt were the immediate standouts for me. schmefd 2 was without question my fav after 1 listen. It had such a dark and nasty groove. The whole time through the album, I couldn't decide if this was Autechre super zoomed out, or super zoomed in. It has this very microscopic detail to it, but it sounds like it is enormous at the same time. Autechre have always been experts at creating these little mini universes and this one just felt like the warmest and most humanistic to date. M4 Lema set the perfect tone and was beyond interesting to start. It felt like there was just tons and tons of tiny little pockets of intricacy meshing perfectly with the huge synth and pad washes throughout the entire hour. By reading a lot about this, it sounded to me like this was going to be a very ambient album but I found it so chock-full of rhythm. Everywhere. It's just executed in a different way. Overall, just another fascinating dive into a new realm of ae. There are a handful of bands that I have been listening to for over 20 years now, but Autechre's creative journey has been the most rewarding to follow along with, by far. Cheers.

 

 

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FYI.  As a day 1 internet super expert, I hereby declare Wurstwasser's S/N ratio to be very poor indeed.  MEH would be too much praise for the value of that last post.

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2 hours ago, jules said:

I ended up waiting until this past Saturday for my first listen to SIGN. I had a few buddies over and sat outside in my backyard with a raging fire and did some star photography. The warmth and colors of the fire as well as staring at the stars lent very well to the overall mood of this album (as well as various substances :P). I obviously had read a bunch about it and was keeping up with this thread but I definitely took away my own views from this and further listens. First impressions were just that it was crazy warm, lush and hyper-detailed. M4 Lema, Metaz form8, schmefd 2 and r cazt were the immediate standouts for me. schmefd 2 was without question my fav after 1 listen. It had such a dark and nasty groove. The whole time through the album, I couldn't decide if this was Autechre super zoomed out, or super zoomed in. It has this very microscopic detail to it, but it sounds like it is enormous at the same time. Autechre have always been experts at creating these little mini universes and this one just felt like the warmest and most humanistic to date. M4 Lema set the perfect tone and was beyond interesting to start. It felt like there was just tons and tons of tiny little pockets of intricacy meshing perfectly with the huge synth and pad washes throughout the entire hour. By reading a lot about this, it sounded to me like this was going to be a very ambient album but I found it so chock-full of rhythm. Everywhere. It's just executed in a different way. Overall, just another fascinating dive into a new realm of ae. There are a handful of bands that I have been listening to for over 20 years now, but Autechre's creative journey has been the most rewarding to follow along with, by far. Cheers.

 

 

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These are gorgeous 🌌

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17 minutes ago, jellied cope said:

These are gorgeous 🌌

Thanks!

@very honest that is mars. the temperature dropped quite a bit throughout the night so we were fighting a lot of condensation on the lenses or it would have been much clearer. We got a good shot of the andromeda galaxy though. I will try and post more as we go through the 15gb of photos 😕

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14 hours ago, baph said:

If there’s an Autechre album that wears its Coil influence on its sleeves, surely it’s got to be Oversteps and not SIGN. 
 


tbh I kind of wish there was more follow-through with the Oversteps compositional/melodic method, as much as I love everything that’s come since. 

I hear more of Cocteau Twins' Beatrix in known(1), they played it in one of their marathon streams somewhere

(and regarding SIGN -- F7 definitely resembles known(1) to me, that was my immediate reaction on the premiere, and not only mine, i recall somebody throwing known(2) comment)

 

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On a similar note, I just saw Saturn, Jupiter and our Moon make an awesome triangle in the sky on my evening walk. Mars was hanging around too.

I wasn't listening to SIGN though 

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On 10/20/2020 at 9:39 AM, Wurstwasser said:
On 10/19/2020 at 6:35 AM, azatoth said:

Ah yes, you are the one that believe it's BS that they program their synths and effects in Max and they use some more "traditional" DAW. Gotcha.

Yeah, you got me here. IDK. I rather think their production does not differ and did never differ too much from all other electronic musicians. The rest is just marketing for kids. But now we're adult. Sandpaper and tanks, anyone?

This is a truly bizarre opinion. Rob and Sean have always come across as sincere and down-to-earth and yet you're accusing them of spending the last decade maintaining a lie - based on what? Even if they could have made all of their recent output with a regular DAW (debatable), why the hell wouldn't they program their own stuff in Max? Writing music software isn't that hard - I've done it, and I'm an amateur hobbyist with a day job - and it's obviously something that appeals to the sort of people who make nerdy electronic music. Who do you think uses tools like Max or develops new synths/effects anyway, if not people like Autechre?

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16 minutes ago, Rotwang said:

This is a truly bizarre opinion. Rob and Sean have always come across as sincere and down-to-earth and yet you're accusing them of spending the last decade maintaining a lie - based on what? Even if they could have made all of their recent output with a regular DAW (debatable), why the hell wouldn't they program their own stuff in Max? Writing music software isn't that hard - I've done it, and I'm an amateur hobbyist with a day job - and it's obviously something that appeals to the sort of people who make nerdy electronic music. Who do you think uses tools like Max or develops new synths/effects anyway, if not people like Autechre?

I’m new here, but I had to block that dude. Annoying for no good reason 

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The record arrived and me and mrs skull listened through it.

There're two types of tracks. The epics at beginning, middle, and end, M4 Lema, Metaz, r cazt.

Then the square-waveys, all the rest. They have this kind of organic tangling thing, like bodies and plants spawning little buds and branches and random mutations.

M4 Lema
Scattered and complex, like a spread out far out civilization exploding and left in an unsettled state.

F7
Spawning little buds, a multiplying organism growing from a mulchy soil bed and getting tangled.

Si00
There's some deep mixing and, like, this aquatic civilization thing, and they're just going about their business. Mrs skull said it sounded like a demented kids' show.

Esc desc
Like F7 but it sounds like crying. Tears, and I feel this agony underneath, a horrified feeling. It's like this great big weeping tree of life. Mrs skull said it's like a maestro playing a giant organ in some ancient place.

Au14
Mrs skull says it's "like a big pinball machine".

Metaz Form8
It has this feeling of the most epic beginning and ending. Like an entire life replayed. Lives growing and spreading and dying. Mrs skull says it's like two people trying to communicate but having a hard time understanding each other.

sch.mefd
Again with growing and spreading and tangling. Love how the "melody" kind of "resolves".

gr4
The same square-wavey stuff, but something has been lost, or is lost, or was never found. Mrs skull says it sounds like two birds talking to each other.

Th red a
These chords, the individual notes seem probabilistic, like will the chord reach its potential? They have this purity about them, but there's this wormy presence infiltrating them. That wavemorphy sound, like something from shimripl casual, sounds like a parasite, winding around the chords and digging into their dna.

Psin AM
Driving-at-night music, through the tunnel to the end. Again with little spawns deep in the mix. I could listen to this for hours.

r cazt
This is fuckin unreal. Whoever made this cannot have been in a right frame of mind. It's like this great shuddering grief, this body-shaking falling feeling. But like the others there's a note of hope, like the next life is waiting, even if its just an idea.

Yeah so, me and Mrs skull think it's a masterpiece.

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1 hour ago, skull said:

The record arrived and me and mrs skull listened through it.

There're two types of tracks. The epics at beginning, middle, and end, M4 Lema, Metaz, r cazt.

Then the square-waveys, all the rest. They have this kind of organic tangling thing, like bodies and plants spawning little buds and branches and random mutations.

M4 Lema
Scattered and complex, like a spread out far out civilization exploding and left in an unsettled state.

F7
Spawning little buds, a multiplying organism growing from a mulchy soil bed and getting tangled.

Si00
There's some deep mixing and, like, this aquatic civilization thing, and they're just going about their business. Mrs skull said it sounded like a demented kids' show.

Esc desc
Like F7 but it sounds like crying. Tears, and I feel this agony underneath, a horrified feeling. It's like this great big weeping tree of life. Mrs skull said it's like a maestro playing a giant organ in some ancient place.

Au14
Mrs skull says it's "like a big pinball machine".

Metaz Form8
It has this feeling of the most epic beginning and ending. Like an entire life replayed. Lives growing and spreading and dying. Mrs skull says it's like two people trying to communicate but having a hard time understanding each other.

sch.mefd
Again with growing and spreading and tangling. Love how the "melody" kind of "resolves".

gr4
The same square-wavey stuff, but something has been lost, or is lost, or was never found. Mrs skull says it sounds like two birds talking to each other.

Th red a
These chords, the individual notes seem probabilistic, like will the chord reach its potential? They have this purity about them, but there's this wormy presence infiltrating them. That wavemorphy sound, like something from shimripl casual, sounds like a parasite, winding around the chords and digging into their dna.

Psin AM
Driving-at-night music, through the tunnel to the end. Again with little spawns deep in the mix. I could listen to this for hours.

r cazt
This is fuckin unreal. Whoever made this cannot have been in a right frame of mind. It's like this great shuddering grief, this body-shaking falling feeling. But like the others there's a note of hope, like the next life is waiting, even if its just an idea.

Yeah so, me and Mrs skull think it's a masterpiece.

Love the review man. Love the mrs skull cameo

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gr4 is so beautiful.  It's a choir of plaintive voices desperately urging the chords into disparate directions until they disappear entirely, the structure is lost, and the voices die away.

Probably the most beautiful track on the album.  It reminds me of Ives' "Unanswered Question."

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