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15 minutes ago, eye said:

Yeah, in the mixlr chat Sean mentioned that only about 1 in 3 tracks they do together, and it's been like that for a long time. So most tracks you would call 'solo tracks'. At the same time, they're both working on the system, they're playing around with each other's patches and they're imitating each other in creating patches. So I guess it's always going to be messy and it's  going to be autechre.

this ^^
even if often the songs are of one or the other, are the result of a common work that is the basis of the idea, both for the technical line and for the aesthetics they decide to follow: I think they have a fairly precise notion of what is collected under the name autechre (not surprisingly, the ideas that do not fully represent this form are diverted to Gescom). At this point, a solo album would consist in a systematic division of the pieces composed by R or S, giving up those composed together: an option like this, even if possible, I think makes little sense, and ultimately the only difference from the standard, would be to lose the closest collaborations: not a great advantage

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alco review by alco:   this is the new "autechre" album by them, the brothers. it's called "sign" which is short for "signs." i believe this is an m night shaymalan (or whatever) reference a

the autechre brothers. "the signs" in 2020. october. i forget the date. i'm meeting up with them, the "boys" of autechre. sean, the one who thinks its sick to make beats super wacky is smoking a cigar

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42 minutes ago, Soloman Tump said:

If it was a Booth or Brown solo album then it would not be called Autechre.

For example, not Autechre:

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If I remember correctly, Sean was upset with them for crediting him directly, as he wanted to be credited as Autechre. Don't ask me for a source for that though, it's just memory.

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3 minutes ago, thehauntingsoul said:

If I remember correctly, Sean was upset with them for crediting him directly, as he wanted to be credited as Autechre. Don't ask me for a source for that though, it's just memory.

Yeah, i recall the same kind of sentiment. Tho, it was more like Kouhei didn't ask how to credit him at all and Saddam even had some light trouble with that, but Autechre brand belongs to Warp and he couldn't use it as well, there's only Gescom.

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59 minutes ago, eye said:

Yeah, in the mixlr chat Sean mentioned that only about 1 in 3 tracks they do together, and it's been like that for a long time. So most tracks you would call 'solo tracks'. At the same time, they're both working on the system, they're playing around with each other's patches and they're imitating each other in creating patches. So I guess it's always going to be messy and it's  going to be autechre.

Right.  And even if, technically, only one has a hand in the creation of a particular track, the other still is giving approval of that track's inclusion on the album.  If one of the two came into the studio with a 20 minute recording of a Chris Squire-ish base solo, I'm guessing it would be suggested that that track might be better on the next Keith Rowe/Mike Patton and guests collab.

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1 hour ago, Soloman Tump said:

 

Oh in that case, Krylon definitely sounds like a Raeb solo track

I remember somewhere saying Spaces How V was all Rob? So yea, I’ll take an hour of that. 

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Didn’t they say that even if one of them constructs something, there are elements and behaviors in the programs that the other potentially left their dna so to speak in, so it’s always a collab in a way? I’m not explaining this right. 

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33 minutes ago, Upset man said:

Didn’t they say that even if one of them constructs something, there are elements and behaviors in the programs that the other potentially left their dna so to speak in, so it’s always a collab in a way? I’m not explaining this right. 

Also if I would’ve caught up more, it was explained way better up there. Tee hee. 

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I dug up the quote:

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How about Mark Fell's Composing With Process PodCast?

in the upcoming second part of the first episode they will play a track by Sean Booth called Horizon

31:44 Sean Booth 'Horizon', 2004 (20 min)
'Horizon' is a generative piece composed in the BBC BASIC programming language. It was composed for the rand()% generative internet radio station in 2004 but was never broadcast. The aim of the piece was to use as little code as possible and be interesting enough to hold the attention.

Where is it?


 

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oh yeah
basically we're exclusive to warp, but we can do stuff with mates as gescom (but we can't do solo stuff or use any other names, particularly our own names)
mark just didn't know so he put my name, and we couldn't put it out then even if he changed the name.. it was my fault for not saying
happened w/kouhei as well but that was already produced when i found out (oops)

 

from the AAA spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XAizLmKun4yF6oBVUhIrewYN-ZiY_9ORckmT-hF93Ho/edit#gid=0

 

So basically, they can do solo stuff but only if they do it under Warp? I guess that's what I'm understanding.

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2 hours ago, Draft78 said:

this ^^
even if often the songs are of one or the other, are the result of a common work that is the basis of the idea, both for the technical line and for the aesthetics they decide to follow: I think they have a fairly precise notion of what is collected under the name autechre (not surprisingly, the ideas that do not fully represent this form are diverted to Gescom). At this point, a solo album would consist in a systematic division of the pieces composed by R or S, giving up those composed together: an option like this, even if possible, I think makes little sense, and ultimately the only difference from the standard, would be to lose the closest collaborations: not a great advantage

... it seems to me that the division into two solo albums, is more than anything else an exercise for the benefit of the ego, something that I think they do not feel the need (especially after 33 years of activity)

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17 minutes ago, Draft78 said:

... it seems to me that the division into two solo albums, is more than anything else an exercise for the benefit of the ego, something that I think they do not feel the need (especially after 33 years of activity)

Totally agree.

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Hey, a thought just crossed my mind...

If the most recent press photo of Ae duo has Rob more in the foreground...does that mean that this release is more Rob's?

#Aexcited

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Pretty sure when discussing the whole thing of solo tracks in AAA they mentioned Draft or/Untitled, which are before the current Max setup. There are solo tracks in FSOL, Orbital and Underworld's catalogues (and probably countless others) so it's not an unusual thing. 

While I like the Sign = Sean idea, it's probably unlikely. Two albums definitely fits in with a Speakerboxxx / The Love Below idea, but as has been said, they don't seem to be the sort to be interesting in that kind of thing, especially given that the current setup has been designed by the pair of them. At the most, one album would be tracks selected by Siobhan and one tracks selected by Roisin, but I doubt it.

Saying that, if we get an email in a few weeks saying that Rub is coming out on 13th November we can all eat our hats.

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11 hours ago, d-a-m-o said:

Maybe the first LP is Sean doing mental beats ,the second is Rob doing lush pads and when you combine them you end up with the ultimate 'chre Album.

There's a thought - what if the two albums are meant to be played at the same time, and the tracks mesh together?

Also, don't orange and green make... BROWN?

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Numerology can prove anything.

sign = 19,9,7,14 

sean = 19,5,1,14

rob = 18,15,2

 

(rob) 18+15+2 = 35

(sig) 19+9+7 = 35

(sean) 19 - (5+14) = 1

(n) 'n' is 1 letter of 'sign'.  'n' is also the last letter of 'sign' and also the last letter of 'sean'.

 

Conclusion = Rob is responsible for 3/4 of the tracks of Sign, Sean is responsible for 1/4.  Furthermore, Sean is responsible for the last track.  Mystery solved.

 

edit: - OOPS, bad math.  Sean equals '0', and is thus responsible for nothing, but inspired the last track.

 

edit 2: OR, 19/(5+14) = 1, so maybe Sean did do something.  I really need to lay off the coffee for the day.....

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20 minutes ago, Joyrex said:

There's a thought - what if the two albums are meant to be played at the same time, and the tracks mesh together?

Also, don't orange and green make... BROWN?

Yes that's what I was saying, there's this neurosis album that can be played with this other album from their side project tribes of neurot but I really hope that's not it cause this is the lamest concept ever 

:psyduck:

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6 minutes ago, d-a-m-o said:

Yes that's what I was saying, there's this neurosis album that can be played with this other album from their side project tribes of neurot but I really hope that's not it cause this is the lamest concept ever 

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The Flaming Lips have a release like this where you play 4 at the same time I think... madness

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Come to think of it, the shape in the cover is almost a circle, AND timbales are circular, and when combined with that vibrant colour palette, it wouldn't be a hyperbole to say that it may as well be a SALSA RECORD

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7 minutes ago, Joyrex said:

The Flaming Lips have a release like this where you play 4 at the same time I think... madness

i remember the pitchfork review of this being basically "this sucks, who the fuck has four CD players?" lol. which i mean, yeah

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Gentlemen, I have the vague impression that we are losing the sense of reality. Maybe Warp could upload that piece online and stop our fall into the darkness of madness for a moment

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