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13 minutes ago, ArrraR said:

yes, Its the intention behind it, other wise it would just be a sentence.

Sorry, I didn't mean to upset anyone or come across the wrong way. 

So you say that poetry is arranged words but sentence is not?

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On 9/18/2020 at 12:07 AM, xox said:

So you say that poetry is arranged words but sentence is not?

No, they both can be described as arranged words.

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38 minutes ago, very honest said:

the substance of sound is a psychic substance. your experience of sound is not an experience of changing air pressure.

Agree, you experience sound through its properties in two connected domains: frequency domain and time domain. 
Music in your experience begins where those two domains end. Music is a higher level of abstraction.
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8 minutes ago, ArrraR said:

No, they both can be described as arranged words.

I understand that but the point of definition is to define a thing differently in relation to another. So now try to find how poetry differs from sentences and you’ll find me there. 🙂

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7 minutes ago, eclipsis said:

simon cowell facepalm GIF

Is this for me? ☹️

2 minutes ago, xox said:

I understand that but the point of definition is to define a thing in relation to another. So now try to find how poetry differs from sentences and you’ll find me there. 🙂

It's the intention 🙂

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“Arrange my dick... That’s your music!”

— Arthur Schopenhauer 

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How about:

music = speech - text

Eat dat!

(music is a hyper polluted term, couldn't care less if it's accepted as such or not, same with art, same with poetry)

(like hey, i'm in Euro club *pumps fist* with Bach-oven, life's a success)

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32 minutes ago, xox said:

Agree, you experience sound through its properties in two connected domains: frequency domain and time domain. 
Music in your experience begins where those two domains end. Music is a higher level of abstraction.
imo

hm, interesting. frequency is derived from amplitude. audio data is only 2 dimensions: time and amplitude. frequency is a result of change in amplitude. 

the changing amplitude values move the woofer, writing the information to the air as changes in pressure, which move out from the woofer in a sequence. 

the pressure changes are interpretted by the ear, which measures the sequence of changes in pressure.

so, if i'm getting this right, the nervous system receives the data in it's derived state: frequency, because the ear measures change in pressure, which is change in amplitude, which is frequency.

just realized that the mind and computers operate at different levels of sound. you're right though, the mind operates with the basic dimension of frequency (and time).

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7 minutes ago, Amen Lare said:

How about:

music = speech - text

Of course they understand it! They wouldn’t be ae if they don’t.

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3 hours ago, IDEM said:

Don't lose any sleep over it; it's not an axiom, just a personal answer to a personal question. I dunno. I just find the combination of shape and color a bit nauseating, plus it looks so ancient while the musics are still fresh. And I don't mean 1990s old, I mean 1930s to 1940s old, the whole thing looks like a still from a fucking Oskar Fischinger video. No disrespect for him either, but I think it confuses me because I don't know if it's intentionally retro or if there's some story behind it that I'm unaware if or whatever the fuck is going on there.

The font, the slightly pretentious all-lower-case phrase "mechanically reclaimed" and the extremely enerving spacing between those slashes don't help either btw.

Everything else in their catalogue ranges from kinda alrightish (Amber, Quaristice) to hella awesome (Confield, Draft 7.30) afaic.

 

This was my sophisticated deep reading of the cover image of Sicklesweat by the influential electronic pop group Awrtekker. If you liked it, please support me on Patreon.

Thank you for that considered and thoughtful reply.  I trust you took my criticism of your criticism as nothing more than a friendly jab.  I do respect your right to be different, otherwise we'd all be fighting for the same pair of shoes.

 

You do make some very valid points.  Nauseating color, check.  Pretentious addendum, ('mechanically altered'), check.  Cutsey pun title, check.  As you mention, the art has a retro vibe, though I would peg the aesthetic as 1980's color and wire frame graphics put through the then modern blender.  

 

cichlisuite is perhaps the most lighthearted and playful title in the entire AE catalog.  I've always felt the art, with all its whimsical quirks, to be a very good match for the music within.  

 

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23 minutes ago, very honest said:

hm, interesting. frequency is derived from amplitude. audio data is only 2 dimensions: time and amplitude. frequency is a result of change in amplitude. 

the changing amplitude values move the woofer, writing the information to the air as changes in pressure, which move out from the woofer in a sequence. 

the waves are received by the ear, which measure the sequence of changes in pressure.

so, if i'm getting this right, the nervous system receives the data in it's derived state: frequency, because the ear measures change in pressure, which is change in amplitude, which is frequency.

just realized that the mind and computers operate at different levels of sound. you're right though, the mind operates with the basic dimension of frequency (and time).

Yes! Just... although frequency is change in amplitude, what defines it is the speed of that change. If we deduce it completely it’s all about time; time/speed of amplitude (frequency domain) and time of events (time domain). That’s why we cant conceptualize music in other ways than as our internal experience, bc time is mind’s internal concept (space is external); we sense ourselves in/through time. That’s why music matters to us humans more than other forms of art.

ok im out

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10 hours ago, Hugh Mughnus said:

Aye.

 

Music is made. 

Preorders are in. 

Why delay the release, especially when there's no hype-train, teasers, etc. ? 

=/

This

I thought we were past this with the previous several AE releases just dropping out of the ether with little warning.

Fingers crossed they drop the digital downloads several weeks early.

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2 minutes ago, thehauntingsoul said:



Fingers crossed they drop the digital downloads several weeks early.

I think this will probably happen.

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