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  1. ^ psychiatrists diagnose and medicate, psychologists have more of an ongoing conversation with you to tease out problems and better resolve longstanding hardwired emotional issyues. the emphasis in Australia is much more on psychologists.

     

    edit: to better answer your question, most of the psychologists I've seen are trained in the psychotherapy stuff - I wasn't aware you could be a psychologist without it

     

     

    - see a psychologist, not a psychiatrist

    - keep it well out of the family and out of your friend circle, make it a strictly professional relationship

    - don't get hung up on one particular strategy (CBT) or other, let the psych guide you

    - have an ongoing conversation with your psych about whether their recommendations are working for you or not

    - be aware there is always a lot of legwork to do following from your discussions, which nobody but yourself can do

    Yes, I know all of this. Some of us need both a psychologist and a psychiatrist, so we have to seek out both. I was stating experiences I have had over the years (since you asked) and have since learned from, as well as thanking those who had offered advice. Quite frankly, if you had led with this list of items instead of attacking my very real experiences, I think I wouldn't feel irritated right now. This is all good advice for anyone new to seeking therapy. 

     

     

    what did I attack and how exactly? in the absence of knowing how long you'd been seeking help and what kind of experiences you'd had, since you didn't declare this stuff up front in your initial post, I emphasised the need to control your expectations to ensure that you didn't have an unhelpful experience which you would write off as "bad". furthermore I asked you to define "bad", since there is a considerable amount of responsibility on your part as the patient to ensure you don't have what you might consider a "bad" experience.

     

    I learnt this stuff on my own going into therapy and not having been prepared for it beforehand made therapy harder, so what you're calling an attack is basic diligence to me.

     

    Hey, I definitely misread your tone and apologize.  I suppose I found your initial response unhelpful because I read it as you jumping to conclusions about me while calling into question my experiences. Of course, I know I tend to be extremely defensive about accepting advice regarding my mental health... which of course is ridiculous since I was the one asking in the first place. At any rate, I genuinely am grateful for the responses to my query and sorry we got off on the wrong foot.

  2. - see a psychologist, not a psychiatrist

    - keep it well out of the family and out of your friend circle, make it a strictly professional relationship

    - don't get hung up on one particular strategy (CBT) or other, let the psych guide you

    - have an ongoing conversation with your psych about whether their recommendations are working for you or not

    - be aware there is always a lot of legwork to do following from your discussions, which nobody but yourself can do

    Yes, I know all of this. Some of us need both a psychologist and a psychiatrist, so we have to seek out both. I was stating experiences I have had over the years (since you asked) and have since learned from, as well as thanking those who had offered advice. Quite frankly, if you had led with this list of items instead of attacking my very real experiences, I think I wouldn't feel irritated right now. This is all good advice for anyone new to seeking therapy. 

  3. define a "bad" experience. it's important to calibrate your expectations so you don't set yourself up for disappointment and then churn from one therapist to another and eventually get worn down and more depressed about not getting help. they're not wizards, most of the work still falls to you.

     

    well there are different possibilities but to be honest i dont have bad expierience with mental health workers maybe because i live in Vienna which is the birthplace of psychology and a very social orientied city too.

     

    lol

     

    Hey, yes I'm aware of that Kavinsky - willing and able to do the work with the right kind of support. An example of a bad experience is sitting in a waiting room for 3 hours to end up talking to a psychiatrist who immediately tries to change your medication without having a respectful dialogue about your medical history. Another bad experience would be your family encouraging you as a teenager to go see their friend who is a therapist, who already thinks they know everything about you and you can't accomplish anything because an ethical line has clearly been breached and there's no actual confidentiality afterall. 

     

    if you're in the US its a convoluted labyrinth accessing affordable health care in & of itself, i dont envy you

     

    would this approach offer specifics that might overlap with your diagnosis (assuming you've been given one)?

     

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=hp&ei=4fmuWt7kKs3SsAflj4_oBA&q=dbt+therapy&oq=dbt+&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0l10.688.1858.0.4126.5.4.0.0.0.0.96.300.4.4.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.4.296.0..0i131k1j0i3k1.0.1PtwFKBZJQE

     

    another route is via mental health advocacy services or maybe contact NAMI, i only know about the latter through an ex-hex, but they're non-judgemental, thorough & might be able to support you in finding someone local to you - the US is a big fuckin land mass after all

     

    https://www.nami.org/

     

    Thanks cwmbrancity - I'm glad you pointed me back to CBT. Some of my friends have had success with it, and yes it does relate to my diagnosis. I appreciate the link, too. 

     

     

    Wondering if this post will reach those of you who have struggled with and learned to manage your depression. I need to find a new psychologist and this causes me a lot of anxiety - I'm sure several of you, like me, have bad memories of mental health workers who were not the right fit for you. For anyone who has a strategy for weeding out the  riff raff and finding the right kind of care for you, I'd love to hear your suggestions.

     

     

    no psychiatrists in the us?

     

     

    Obviously you didn't read my post.

     

     

    Wondering if this post will reach those of you who have struggled with and learned to manage your depression. I need to find a new psychologist and this causes me a lot of anxiety - I'm sure several of you, like me, have bad memories of mental health workers who were not the right fit for you. For anyone who has a strategy for weeding out the  riff raff and finding the right kind of care for you, I'd love to hear your suggestions.

    You should ask people around you where you live. It's a people thing. There's no process besides talking to people. Or asking psychologists for their advice (read: ask them about finding a suitable therapist, instead of managing your depression). In any case, your best off asking people in the area you live.

     

    Apart from this, I can't help you, I'm afraid. I do have experience with mental workers though. And not all of them good. So I can relate to the importance of your question. I was between 13-16 at the time, so basically dependent on what others decided for me. At that age I certainly didn't have any idea what a right fit would be. Or even the importance of it. So all I can tell you, is that it can realy help if you at least have an idea about what that right fitting therapist would look like.

     

     

    It's nice to have a bit of validation re: bad experiences - thanks for that, goDel. I've asked for a referral a few times now, and either the therapist I was referred to wasn't taking new patients or the referring psychologist/psychiatrist was too busy to give me much help. BUT, you are right - talking to others in the area about this is important. It's just like asking your friends about any other doctor they go to... assuming you have friends who don't stigmatize mental illness. Happily, I have good friends.

     

     

    Wondering if this post will reach those of you who have struggled with and learned to manage your depression. I need to find a new psychologist and this causes me a lot of anxiety - I'm sure several of you, like me, have bad memories of mental health workers who were not the right fit for you. For anyone who has a strategy for weeding out the  riff raff and finding the right kind of care for you, I'd love to hear your suggestions.

     

     

    my perspective is that it may well depend on your level of insight - i find many are geared towards dealing with people currently in the grips of something distressing which is causing prolonged periods of depression, and they provide relief from that distress. for me, although anxious and depressed (at quite low levels, but chronic enough to be complicating) i understand and have continued to do stuff because my depression started at a time where i couldn't avoid activities preventing me from finding space to consider everything. i personally find someone who will have a conversation much more preferable, as they'll clarify my ideas or provide new ones that add to my ability to know what i am managing and how i might go about it. the lack of dialogue from most, i find only frustrating.

     

    totally with you there, logboy. I hate feeling like I am in the driver's seat the whole time - dialogue is important to me. Feeling like I'm under observation has always felt creepy to me. The lack of dialogue can also happen when a therapist is unfamiliar with alternative lifestyles - they're so blown away by how different you are from them it takes them awhile to understand where you're coming from. Anyway, thanks for sharing.

  4. Wondering if this post will reach those of you who have struggled with and learned to manage your depression. I need to find a new psychologist and this causes me a lot of anxiety - I'm sure several of you, like me, have bad memories of mental health workers who were not the right fit for you. For anyone who has a strategy for weeding out the  riff raff and finding the right kind of care for you, I'd love to hear your suggestions.

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    Hi guys,

     

    I didn't know tapes had a B side until just now. So there might be more than 4 full tracks on it.

    lol i love you whit

     

    i'm crying with laughter over here <3

    #youknowyoureoldwhen

     

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    he hasn't put the dfn or tech004 releases there so... ?

    Hasn't daddy1 commented on the store that he's going to upload the DFN tracks when he gets back from this mini-tour? TECH004 are tracks he already shared for free on Soundcloud.

     

     several of the fuji rock tracks also appear to be from the syrobonkers interview trax originally on soundclown.

     

    Yes, and?

     

    and i'd like to give him money for these tracks and hope they all make it to the store. that is all.

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    he hasn't put the dfn or tech004 releases there so... ?

    Hasn't daddy1 commented on the store that he's going to upload the DFN tracks when he gets back from this mini-tour? TECH004 are tracks he already shared for free on Soundcloud.

     

     several of the fuji rock tracks also appear to be from the syrobonkers interview trax originally on soundclown.

  8. interesting conversation, here - what is everyone's take on ripping analog formats? in this day and age, what is the purpose in releasing these formats, and does this intrinsically mean something about those who share the content digitally? has this been discussed elsewhere on the forum? just curious as to the general perception of this community. hopefully rich will put the fuji tracks on the store like he did with field day, but he hasn't put the dfn or tech004 releases there so... ?

  9. Surprised nobody has posted this to soothe Dan C's restless heart;

     

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jun/10/sam-panapoulos-inventor-of-hawaiian-pizza-dies-aged-83

     I considered it! thanks Leon.

     

    RIP to Sam Panopoulos, inventor of the most controversial pizza topping combination of the modern age. The Hawaiian pizza was piloted in Toronto and Detroit, then seeped its horrible juices worldwide, infecting the hearts and minds of thousands, possibly millions, though of course millions of people could not possibly go for such flavors. Anyway RIP Sir, you surely made your mark. 

  10. I'm sure this post will get lost here, but anyway... We Are The Dreamers is doing something of a last-minute-hacked-together Twin Peaks wafflefest today on our discord radio show. snareup.com is the invite link if you want to listen/text chat with us live, otherwise all shows are eventually uploaded to https://www.mixcloud.com/wearethedreamers/ 

     

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    Super excited for Season 3, you guys! here's how to join the show live... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bpXpLhAR-5gRbw8R8hpodUWl9yacimJnIHVKqrzl8FU/edit

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