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three golden oldies... for those lovely summer evenings :)
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Magdog, your posts should be reported, as in reported for bloody excellence...I think they invented the word chooooooooooooooooooooon for those belters.
Glad you enjoyed mate.. here's three more deep delights :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULzjE_Rlo4U&feature=related
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sweet deepness...
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Definitely worth another listen mate.. lots of cool versions + one or two exclusives me thinks.
giving Autechre @ flex in Vienna another listen :)
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Mmmm, you're right the Parasight live mix is a real treat.
empty bottle [chicago] – april 2007
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yeah actually you're right mate.
apologies to Plaid for me earlier Scintilli frustrations rant, sorries :)
it was just with another fekkin Ae 10 tracks coming out so soon after the last one... y'know... it blew a fuse with me a bit.
no rush tho, Plaid.. no rush. just aslong as it's bloody good when it's finally released! hehe :)
hehe.. i'm sure they understand mate ;)
mmm... Ae 10 track. nice!
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so glad they work in this way.. respect to them both.
this is also why we shouldn't be rushing them for their next album.. i want it as bad as the next person (so to speak ;) but, these things can't be rushed.
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My pleasure mate. Yeah, it looks like Plaid had to basically rebuild their sound and studio with 'Not For 333's' being the result. I can really hear the freedom they felt in making that album, yes, it does go off in many directions but that's what it's like when you've been made free... running and jumping everywhere in apprehension and excitement! I do hope they are comfortable enough now to live and make their music without financial worry, it's the least they deserve after all the hard work and long years they've put in.
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Recently dug this Plaid interview out of an old draw.. haven't seen/read it anywhere on the net so i transcribed it for the board. enjoy!
Plaid - Magic Feet Interview, mf022 (06/1999)
Ed Maclean looks back at the past, present and the future of PLAID, and talks to Andy about their new album.
> Plaid produce some of the most colourful and melodic electronic music available today. Whether it's your cup of tea or not, it can't be denied that they are one of the few electronic music acts with their own truly distinctive and individual style. Their new album, released this month once again demonstrates their unique mastery of melody and emotion, and perhaps set to elevate their status even further. But to judge an act like Plaid on their latest production is to take them out of context, as anyone who has followed their career over the past decade will know, they have pedigree most producers would kill for.
Everyone's familiar with the name The Black Dog, Ed & Andy's first project along with Ken Downey, started around the turn of this decade. Like Plaid, the cornerstone of their music was innovation and, for it's time, The Black Dog's music was seriously innovative. Housemaster General, a producer and occasional DJ of the late '80s/early '90s told of first coming across Black Dog material and making a decision to play it out to a garage and house crowd. It was met with complete puzzlement, and not surprisingly so: the arrangement was completely alien to a club crowd, the sounds were a medley of soft and sharp, smooth and rough, and the vibe was utterly new. Wayne Archbold, head of GPR label who first signed the band, told of their unconventional ways of working. Having invested money in the band he was keen to see them at work, but when he arrived at the studio Ed, Andy & Ken were not happy with Wayne, a classically trained pianist watching over them. It was only after some time that he discovered that their beautiful sound was at the time, and for that one track at least, being constructed from one finger jabs and hand presses on the keyboard. The genius was not in any kind of classical training and laborious musical theory, but exactly the opposite - The Black Dog, were completely free spirits, driven by spontaneity and imagination. The album they were making at the time, 'Temple Of Transparent Balls', was an enormous success and is still considered by electronic producers worldwide as a milestone in the genre. As the band continued, cracks began to show and soon after the bands departure to Warp, midway through recording, the band decided to split. Ken took with him The Black Dog name and allegedly, most of the equipment, while Ed & Andy became Plaid, Ed and Andy's first 'Not For Three's' album, a melodic beauty, showed, thankfully, that they still had plenty of musical mileage in them. "After the split we felt liberated, really. There was a certain level of freedom, or a perceived level of musical freedom, which we hadn't felt before. I think on 'Not For Threes' we probably went in too many directions at once, kind of a reaction to the situation we were in, the new freedom."
Part of this new freedom saw Ed & Andy working with collaborators, most notably Bjork. Were Plaid on the edge of more mainstream success? Surely, with Orbital's Insides flying the flag for melodic electronic music, now was the time? But although they can boast a sizeable following Plaid have never broken into the mainstream, however, as Andy points out, it was never something they were trying to do: "We've never made music to entertain or educate other people. I suppose our motives for making music are entirely selfish. We enjoy making the music we do, and if anyone else finds it enjoyable or entertaining as well, then that's great!"
As you might have guessed, following 'the scene' is not really Plaid's game, and as far as modern day influences are concerned, Andy has few. "I don't know very much about the music that's around at the moment. I haven't really bought any records for two or three years now. There was a time when i'd be in the record shop every other day and i was really on top of what was coming out, but now i tend not to listen to music. After a day in the studio my ears get tired. I prefer to listen to Talk Radio or watch the news. We're not really attached to any scene at all. There was a kind of network of clubs that grew up in London around the time of The Black Dog, which everyone used to go to, but we're not part of it now. We've got to know some of the Warp artists, but it's not like we all hang out around each other's houses or anything."
Andy's down-to-earth attitude seems refreshing compared to those banded about in many musical circles, where the social scene has become more important than the music and the feeding off of each other's ideas has led to a stagnant cycle of substandard releases. Perhaps the one single element that separates Plaid from the other is the use of melody. "It's true we're mostly melodically driven, it's how we start off a track. We put down a melodic line, and some sounds and build it up around that. Sometimes we'll get a new bank of sounds for the sampler and it will start that way, but melody is the basis of our work. As far as equipment is concerned, we keep things relatively simple. When The Black Dog split, Ed and i had very little equipment so we learned how to make music without a huge arsenal of synths. What we try to convey in the music is emotion, not messages as such. There are some things, some feelings, that you can only convey with music."
Anyone who closely followed The Black Dog may have heard of or seen some of the animations they were involved in. So why haven't we seen this for Plaid? "Unfortunately it's simply a matter of money at the moment. Plaid really just doesn't have the money, although animation and visual aspect is definitely a good thing and something that we would like to get into more."
So does Andy believe there will come a time when music is simply one element of an encapsulating multi-media experience, an ingredient of an entertainment virtual reality? "No. There will always be a demand for pure music. There are times when need you other senses."
One visual aspect Plaid have been involved in was supporting Orbital on their recent UK tour. "It was incredible," (enthuses Andy). "The sound system was really excellent, it was just great to hear the music over such a loud and clear system. We were playing very early on in the night, but it seemed to go down very well."
Touring has also taken them further afield, to the states, where, with enthusiasm for electronic music still fresh, the last album is rumoured to have done particularly well. "We've played San Francisco and New York a couple of times, both of which were really excellent. We're both really hoping that when 'Rest Proof Clockwork' is released over there it does well, so we can get to see more of the states".
As the release of the new album looms nearer i ask Andy what he see as Plaid's finest moment so far? "I don't really see any particular moment, because moments don't last, they come and go, and memories are short. I think you always remember the latest good thing. We are really pleased with 'Rest Proof Clockwork'. On 'Not For Threes' we went in so many different directions, and i think with 'Rest Proof Clockwork' we're going more where we want to. I listened to it just a couple of months ago, and i'm still very pleased with it. I think 'Rest Proof Clockwork' is our finest moment".
For now at least, EM 'Rest Proof Clockwork' is out in June on Warp.
*CLOCKWATCHING
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yeah, the second and third tracks have a very good chance of making it to Scintilli.. lets hope :)
first track is sounding different and more melloooow.. quite nice.
another vid posted by the same guy... i think the first track sounds fookin proppa.
Plaid live at Stekkerfest Utrecht
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Dunno if these have already been posted up somewhere on the forum.. anyway, enjoy :)
Xtacid Report: BANGFACE WEEKENDER 2010
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don't feel bad dude that's pointless. you shouldn't feel bad or be made to feel bad for having that opinion. if it's what you think, so what? :)
respect for saying what you think/ feel.
glad i've taken it back mate... now i feel better :)
after all what was my point?.. i like the old and the new and picking on a single person makes no sense what so ever.
living and learning.
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Makes me cringe when the dusts talk on behalf of the original black dog as they had nothing to do with that sound. if ken can't be arsed to comment - i suggest the dusts should keep quiet !
feel rotten for saying this and about the dog farts to Martin comment.
for what it's worth, i take it all back and apologise.
now i understand.
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to be fair tho, you don't seem to hear Richard Dust saying anything? he seems to keep quiet. which is decent.
he gets it. the other one seems to be a bit of an arse.. , if i may be so bold.
you're right.. my apologies to Richard, dog farts to Martin ;)
have to say that i also really liked 'Silenced' and the exclusive 12's tracks that came out with it... seems to me mainly a Downie production, but as i'm going purely by ear i may be wrong. May i also add, although i sound a little anti new-black-dog i'm not really as i truly respect all the hard work the Dust brothers have put into the music these past five years.. they must be some of the hardest workers in electronic music today !
some fave nu-bd tracks.. to show i'm not ignorant.
Train By The Autobahn (Part 1)
UV Sine
Witches Ov
Ghost Vexations......... BELLE !!!
Floods V3 (33 ⅓ RPM)
Gawble Vianag
Plinth
Stempel
Skin Clock
Tunnels Ov Set
Passport Control
Wait Behind This Line
Delay 9
Sleep Deprivation 2
Business Carpark 9
Gate 21
peace and love.
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Hey Folks
sorry about this.. just had a p.m. from Ken Downie Via Martin from Black Dog, asking me to take the two tracks i posted down, as they are still under license to warp..
so I'm going to have to head over to megaupload and delete the file.. hope you grabbed them if you wanted them..
will be sunday i think when i can get to the BITS thing.. once i sign off in a min, i'm just hanging out with my lovely wife tonight and tomorrow..
loving this thread people..
as part of my reply to the request form Black Dog.. i did ask if they could make some of this material properly available at some point.. let's hope we do one day eh?
see ya sunday
all best
J
thanks very much mate !
have a nice weekend !
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Hi Folks will do my best to get worked version of BITS up this weekend.. but for now thought I'd share these with you as some people may have not come across them. Here are lossless versions of 'Island Praise', and the extended version of 'Xeper'. They should keep you going until I can get the other post done..
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=62JM1W3T
all best
J
Hello J,
many thanks for making 'Island Praise' available and all the work you did to get the track.
is the extended version of 'Xeper' the same version as on the 'Trance Europe Express' compilation?
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just listened to the Steve Beckett interview again.. enjoyed it.
there wasn't an audience questions time (like many other of the interviews) but i thought he communicated well with them. myself, i'm not to bothered about audience questions as most are rubbish anyway :)
yeah, the part were he talks about this thing called the internet that took 10hrs to get on and him wearing a virtual reality suit having virtual sex around the world only to find himself miserable watching a fucking newsgroup talking about a black dog 12-inch for two hours. hahaha... nothing new there then :) also the part about the 'shot gun blow back' at warps northern parties.. those were the days hay !
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gotta see that Steve Beckett interview. didn't know about that one. cheers!
Hi Sirch, pleasure mate.. glad to add something worth watching.
gonna have to watch the Steve Beckett one again myself.
keep checking back at the site if an interview doesn't work.. i waited months for the Ed Handley one to become available.
noticed a guy called gerald has been added recently too..
hope he talks about the manc 808 state days and his visit to detroit and transmat.
Hi Magdog, i watched the Steve Beckett one earlier. it's really interesting, but he seemed a bit nervous.
he kept having to clear his throat and drink water, which is what i do when nervous and having to talk, so can empathise.
he seemed to get a bit bored at towards the end and went off for a piss. prolly all that water he was drinking!
didn't take any questions from the audience really which was a bit shit. i get the impression he's a bit of a shrewd business man.
not just because he didn't take questions, but just listen to him lol..
will have to watch the Steve Beckett interview again tomorrow.. no time tonight, the Gerald one lasted for over two hours !
umm, can't remember him acting nervous or taking a piss. i know personally i'd be shitting myself if i had to give a lecture, well to start with anyway then hopefully relax and just talk about the things i know about :)
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just watched the A Guy Called Gerald interview... it's totally fascinating from beginning to end.
he starts by taking you on a short history tour through the electronic music dance scene in manchester starting with the early dub sound of the late 70's into the jazz funk sound of the early 80's then the hacienda days including his work with 808 state and the influence of chicago house and detroit techno. it's all in there along with a more deeper conversation about his work on drum&bass toward the end of the video. love it when he plays the sh-101 and later on a demo using reason - check the track at 01:46.00.. top tune !
yeah.. not sure how old this interview is but Gerald does talk about him and Graham Massey working together and playing some live gigs... great news !
sorry for going off topic, but, this is excellent Gerald info :)
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gotta see that Steve Beckett interview. didn't know about that one. cheers!
Hi Sirch, pleasure mate.. glad to add something worth watching.
gonna have to watch the Steve Beckett one again myself.
keep checking back at the site if an interview doesn't work.. i waited months for the Ed Handley one to become available.
noticed a guy called gerald has been added recently too..
hope he talks about the manc 808 state days and his visit to detroit and transmat.
Deep House...
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Deeeeeeeep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He7JQ5bVUp4&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-bi3f3ofS8