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  1. 44 minutes ago, goDel said:

    Nobody denied they were researching bat virusses.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/

    (first published in march)

    I didn't say they denied researching bat viruses. What I said is that if the virus escaped from the lab by accident, it would not be possible for the lab staff or the Chinese government to deny that they were working with bat viruses because this information was already public.

    46 minutes ago, goDel said:

    Also note how genomes get registered in a database. And the paper was published the 3rd of februari. Open access. So, if it was a so-called bioweapon, they put it out in public space. A lot of transparency for a secret/self-made weapon, don't you think?

    I never said this was a bioweapon. I think it is unlikely it was a bioweapon and even less likely that the virus was deliberately released in the public. However, I think the idea that the virus accidentally escaped from the lab is plausible.

    48 minutes ago, goDel said:

    There's really no secret here.

    Around here, experts report the virus is highly likely originated from nature. And given the transparency, I can only assume they're right. Perhaps it escaped from the facilities in Wuhan. But if they were researching this specific virus, I'd expect the genome to be present in a database.

    Not all genomes that are sequenced get uploaded to public databases. Also, the time interval from sequencing a genome to uploading it to public databases can be quite long, e.g. one year. Besides this, researchers often want to delay the uploading of a newly sequenced genome to public databases until they have written up a research paper that goes along with the genome.

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  2. 13 minutes ago, rhmilo said:

    Does going public and admitting you had sleepless nights over it sound like a coverup?

    Well, already before the COVID-19 pandemic happened, it was public information that the Wuhan lab was researching bat coronaviruses, and even working with mutant coronavirus strains. The Wuhan lab had published research papers on these topics. For example, they were co-authors on this paper from 2015: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26552008/. So it is not possible for them to completely deny that they were working with bat coronaviruses. If they were guilty of leaking the virus from the lab, the best they could do to cover it up would be to say that they were worried that it could have come from their lab but then they checked the sequences and they didn't match.

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  3. 7 hours ago, rhmilo said:

    The scientist doing exactly this research has been fairly public about this: she said she had some sleepless nights after it turned out there was a novel infectious corona virus on the loose, thinking it might be one of hers. In the end it wasn't, only 80% of the genome matched the viruses she was studying.

    If the Chinese scientists accidentally leaked the virus from the Wuhan lab, I'm sure they wouldn't admit this happened. Instead, I would expect them to try to cover everything up just like the Soviet Union did with its disasters. So the comments from the Wuhan lab staff or the Chinese government do not really prove or refute anything

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  4. 40 minutes ago, luke viia said:

    update: there are over 30 vehicles here now. I called the PD for guidance...waiting for a call back.

    edit: 40 vehicles now. the cops basically shrugged, they aren't moving people. cool. 

    Could you play music that would drive the people away? Like a 30 second Christmas song snippet on loop for the whole day. You'd have to have noise cancelling headphones for yourself of course

  5. 3 hours ago, psn said:

    Rarely very insightful beyond showing the chords, he mostly just makes a rock face and plays along. 

    Yes. He is very knowledgeable in music theory but the episodes of What Makes This Song Great that I have watched have consisted of:
    - about about 5 seconds of analysis of what makes the song great from music theory perspective
    - about 10 minutes filler content of him playing different parts of the song and listing the names of the chords

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  6. 2 hours ago, Roo said:

    That picture of the Bondi beach crowds might be one of the finest examples in recent memory of the context of an image. Normally a picture of a big crowd on a sunny day enjoying the beach is a sign of wellbeing, idyllic lifestyle, prosperity, togetherness, etc. But on this particular day, it was something bordering on communal atrocity, an act of complete recklessness which forced the hand of subsequent government measures. Like an enforced collective sick day and being caught in the act out and about.

    Future historians will treasure its textual interpretative power (as well as many others like the French revellers and the airport queues, but something about that Bondi image feels exceptional to me).

    This resembles this Soviet painting from 1975: it's an idyllic picnic scene but the text on the painting says "danger".

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  7. 29 minutes ago, Zeffolia said:

    All this means is that the conspiracy theory is epistemically unfalsifiable.  That fact does not mean by itself that it's true, or even likely.  You can always fall back and say it was produced in an undetectable underground biological research facility, but there's no proof, there's no actual evidence of it.  The fact that it can't be disproven doesn't mean anything.

    If anything, it means that our society is programmable just as much as any computer, because our bodies are.  The fact that this theoretically could be done is scary and should scare you.  And it should make us completely reorient our society around that eternal risk.  As long as we have bodies, this same risk exists.

    The Wuhan lab still seems suspicious to me. They were previously involved in research where a bat coronavirus was genetically modified and found to be more pathogenic after inducing the mutation. Here's a link to the research paper from them from 2015:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26552008
    The main research was done in the USA but Wuhan Institute of Virology people were co-authors.
    Overall though, you're right, based on what is publicly known, it is simply not possible to tell where the virus came from. The theory that the outbreak originated from the virology lab can be neither proven or disproven.
     

  8. 18 minutes ago, hijexx said:

    The P4 lab in Wuhan conspiracy theory seems to have started on a finance bro forum called ZeroHedge. Not going to both posting links to it but you can search for zerohedge coronavirus conspiracy theory to see where all that came from.

    There have been many newspaper stories saying that the theory that SARS-CoV-2 escaped from the Wuhan virology lab has been debunked. As evidence for that, the newspaper stories say that the genome of SARS-CoV-2 closely resembles naturally occurring viruses found in bats. I think this evidence does actually not debunk anything. It can only take a minor modification of a naturally occurring genome to make it more infections or pathogenic and there is no way to detect that this genome has been edited by sequencing data alone.

  9. 17 hours ago, goDel said:

    While the seasonal flu is still more deadly...waaay more deadly.... no, not worried. Yet. 

    Apparently, when you're infected with this one, you'll start to dance a lot.

    First musically transmitted flu?

    serious as a dancer, rhythm is a cancer

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  10. I like the look of Cybertruck. It is like the 80s vision of what cars would look like in 2019. It also looks unfinished because it is so low poly but that is not a bad thing either. Modern conventional curvy cars are so boring because they all look the same. I hope Cybertruck starts a new trend of more angular looking cars.

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  11. https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/8/17332070/google-assistant-makes-phone-call-demo-duplex-io-2018

     

    The Google Duplex system is capable of carrying out sophisticated conversations and it completes the majority of its tasks fully autonomously, without human involvement. The system has a self-monitoring capability, which allows it to recognize the tasks it cannot complete autonomously (e.g., scheduling an unusually complex appointment). In these cases, it signals to a human operator, who can complete the task.

     

    Video (audio) is pretty interesting. Seemingly simple things like throwing in "ummm" and "gotcha" are obviously strange to hear from a machine but in conjunction with the rest, seems like it could be really the next level of emulating human speech and conversational nuance. The speed at which it's processing and replying to the human speakers is kinda crazy.

    Wow, the humans sound more machine-like than the AI in the demo. Maybe Google picked the best examples they had for the demo, though, and the actual product is not as good as it seems in the demo

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    Semena Mertvykh is the worst song on the album. It feels completely out of place and there is no justification as to why it should be on the album after New Seeds and Come to Dust. New Seeds would be the best "finisher". Diskus.

    If New Seeds were the last track, that would mean the album would have a happy/hopeful ending which would ruin the darkness of the album

     

    Then what's the point of New Seeds?

     

    It's either "fuck we're sad, but hey, good moments happen!" or "hey, good moments happen! oh wait, we're fucked". Which one is it? It's pretty important.

     

    I think that the latter is cheesy. I'm sorry if I seem pretentious

     

    I think it's probably the latter. The latter also describes Nothing is Real.
    With a happy ending, Tomorrow's Harvest would be more like a Hollywood movie, and therefore more cheesy in my opinion. But it's all a matter of taste in the end.
  13. Semena Mertvykh is the worst song on the album. It feels completely out of place and there is no justification as to why it should be on the album after New Seeds and Come to Dust. New Seeds would be the best "finisher". Diskus.

    If New Seeds were the last track, that would mean the album would have a happy/hopeful ending which would ruin the darkness of the album

  14. Nazi Germany is about to lose World War II but it has invented a machine that enables teleportation through space and time. Hitler, Goring and Hess enter the machine with the plan to go back to the 1930s USA to overthrow the American government in order to change the course of World War II. They disguise themselves as regular German tourists so they won't be recognised (Hitler shaves off his moustache and gets a different haircut). The machine glitches, though. Hitler, Goring and Hess end up being teleported to a parallel universe where the fictitious world of the 1990s episodes of the TV series "The Bold and the Beautiful" is reality and nothing else exists. At first Hitler, Goring and Hess don't realise that the machine has malfunctioned and they try to follow their plan. Presenting themselves as lost German tourists, they make contact with the characters of "The Bold and the Beautiful" and try figure out where they are and how to find the US government. The film then details how Hitler, Goring and Hess are initially confused and then frustrated and alienated as they come to realise that they are confined to a world that consists of only 100 square meters of space and about 20 people. They will not find a way out.

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