Guest Z_B_Z Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 this is great and utterly bizarre. just discovered via a blog i frequent... fuck i have to get the entire album. love the artwork too In 1970 the odd and ill-fitting duo of UK blues sludge merchants Spooky Tooth (featuring Gary “Dreamweaver” Wright) and the Godfather of musique concrète Pierre Henry released the Christian themed Ceremony LP. To this day this has to be one of the most confounding, “what were they thinking?” type of records I’ve ever heard. It’s fantastic the way Henry’s elements are mixed far, far above the band and with surprisingly little (or perhaps very abstract) regard for what the band is playing. A bloody-minded masterpiece ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjfeYB-LEig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 definitely grabbing this, what blog? i just grabbed the 3xcd set of Pierre Schaeffer titled 'l'ceuvre musicale' , it'ss pretty mind blowing and what's odd is the farther you go back like to 1948 it sounds a lot weirder almost before Musique concrete' became a style for Henry and Schaeffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 more of a site than a blog i guess, but http://www.dangerousminds.net/ im interested in getting more into musique concrete. what would you recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 well i think at least for me the best thing i picked up was that 3xcd set. It's a great introduction to all of it as well as an awesome historical document. Just hearing what was technically the first musique concrete' song gave me chills, it sounded super futuristic. I had a bunch of Henry cds a while back but i was always more interested to check out stuff by the guy who actually invented it instead of his protege. For some reason Henry made a shit load more actual music than Schaeffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 what i've heard from pierre henry pretty much sucks. pierre schaeffer on the other hand is fucking genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 i shall check it out. ive never actually taken the time to really get into pure musique concrete, but its something ive had an interest in @ awepittance what i've heard from pierre henry pretty much sucks. pierre schaeffer on the other hand is fucking genius. what makes them so different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 i dont know, i like them both. to say one 'sucks' is a little harsh, maybe he heard a 128kbps transcode of all his work and judged it based on that? i only prefer Schaeffer because he invented it as well as seems to be more unpredictable. Henry seems to have gotten into a little bit of a groove with his style, thats the only big criticism i can give Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 what i've heard from pierre henry pretty much sucks. pierre schaeffer on the other hand is fucking genius. what makes them so different? i don't know. i haven't heard much pierre henry in fact. but i listened to schaeffer's "l'oeuvre musicale" a lot and i can tell it's fucking timeless and fascinating. he was doing the autechre back in the seventies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2qPccm8YrI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 very cool, but he clearly lacked the funk of autechre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 what i've heard from pierre henry pretty much sucks. pierre schaeffer on the other hand is fucking genius. what makes them so different? i don't know. i haven't heard much pierre henry in fact. but i listened to schaeffer's "l'oeuvre musicale" a lot and i can tell it's fucking timeless and fascinating. he was doing the autechre back in the seventies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2qPccm8YrI not to be a musical elitist faggot, but Morton Subotnick was doing a lot more autechrey stuff back in the 60s Schaeffers most interesting stuff in my opinion is the music dealing with all real sounds no oscillator type stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 you're a musical elitist faggot. nah just kidding. i'm gonna check him out, i'm wide open to all discoveries oh and i'm not saying that i know everything in music. i don't have much culture you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Speaking of awesome musique conrete people, any one else like Tod Dockstader? I've been really into his "Electronic" album (only have part 1 atm) (though this is after his actual tape music years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 yeah i agree with you awepittance. his synth stuff is not at all the most interesting part of his work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 ive read people raving over dockstader but havent actuallt heard anything by him. going to sample that album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 There are a few songs on Electronic that really sound (as Keith Fullerton Whitman put it) like Preazoic Aphex Twin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 anything to recommend by doctor robotnik awepittance? i want to check out his stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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awepittance Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 my favorites : this is the one that sounds Confield-ish to me ( 4 butterflies ) Silver apples of the moon is his most famous work, where the later 70s electronic rock band got its name from. I can't say its one of my favorites but its still pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 elitist music fag comment - silver apples were from the 60s ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 haha, they were inspired by that title right? its not a coincidence at least i dont think so odd synchronicity i just realized is that Tangerine Dream got it's name from a Beatles song, and Silver Apples got their name from a Morton Subotnick album title. 2 highly influential electronic bands both lifting fruit related names from other musicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 omg, this looks like the minotaur in tekkon kinkreet. wicked great, i will check these out. ie i will download them illegally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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