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Talking about singing - never thought about a Björk collab? After all her stuff especially with Plaid I guess she's some sort of heroine for us... Or is a singing voice in your tracks - impossible?
dunno i mean she has to be the boss from what i understand
might work, but in practice i dunno how deferential we would be, it's not in our collective nature
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on lp5 was there any conscious reference to bucephalus bouncing ball? the end of vose in always sounded slightly reminiscent of the end of bbb and drane2 obv has a "bouncing ball" effect.
it's possible I'm making the connection nostalgically since I got lp5 and come to daddy around the same time but still wonder if there was anything deliberate there.
yeah we did the track drane, which had that exponential speeding-up delay thing happening, and then rich did that bouncing ball track, and we answered it with drane2 which was the same delay trick but feeding percussion into it instead, as a kind of tease
he said he made a bouncing ball revenge track to it once but i guess he didn't release it, prob cos we all got better things to do than get into a tricks war
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If there were to be a Nord Modular G3, what changes would you like to see?
A commitment to support their editor software even after the unit goes out of production?
yeah this
The Stereolab remix is awesome, how did it come about? Are you fans of theirs or did they approach you or what?
Curious about this.
they asked us, i think they liked our tracks and wanted a version, was good fun to make, and we managed to bang a few offcuts from their real drummer and her singing which i still really rate.
I feel embarrassed but can you (or anyone) please re-write this sentence to standard english so I can understand it better? I am not a native and idioms and slang are problem. Thank you. "and we managed to bang a few offcuts from their real drummer and her singing which i still really rate"
and we managed to include some of the drumming outtakes they included on the DAT they supplied us with; and her singing, of which i am a huge fan
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A couple more while you're thinking up some to questions for us...
Amber is your only sleeve with seemingly untreated photography, is this something you would consider going back to, or do you think abstract/generated art is the bet visual interpretation of your music?
Any thoughts on the midlands? North and south England seem to have strong identities, but us midlanders seem to get forgotten about.
Also, been stuck in a creative rut lately, but all yr talk of enjoying jamming tracks has really inspired me into doing stuff like that and I'm pretty happy with all, definitely needed to stop thinking about the result and just get lost in the moment. So thanks for that!
yeah, i mean if anything pertinent came up we would
i love bham we did some of our best gigs there over the years
oscillate was legendary
wicked
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What do you think of Wolfgang Voigt's GAS project?
really like it
tbh i'm a huge fan of his anyway
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Bit of bumpage:
Do either of you have any thoughts on Wiliiam Basinski's 'Disintegration Loops'? Specifically surrounding the notion that appropriated emotions from a catastrophic event (9/11) negatively pushed the music beyond whatever the listener could hope to independently perceive for themselves - due to the heavy burden of sentimentality laid on by Basinski (stills from the smoke emitting from the two towers adorning the sleeve art, bringing up the mythology of how the music came to be at that time during interviews, etc)? Was being in the 'right' place/time (I use that in the loosest possible sense) justification enough for Basinski to legitimately apply such a tragedy to his creative work?
Have you heard any of the vocaloid music (created using advanced vocal synthesis) that came out of Japan in recent years? Does the software itself, or even just the idea of it interest you at all?
Favourite William Gibson book, if any?
don't know about the Basinski thing.
Gibson, just THAT one book… sorry i must've been wasting lots of time as a kid, not to read so much stuff.
keepin it 300
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heh, i am!do you guys implore a lot/any numerology in your tracks/programming. i.e.: golden ratio or anything like that?
not nitpicking - but golden ratio isn't really numerology
true, how about number theories, ratios, etc.
funny that came out at 11:11 which i love.
yeah i mean, maths tricks are cool. ratios really seem to come more into play with 2d things tho
i always notice things like proportions of windows as feeling right or wrong but i haven't done any proper research into it
if i was a designer i'd probably be all over it
i was just asking because tool has a song where they applied the fibonacci to the timing of the song, syllables of the lyrics flow 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 5, 3, 2, 1, 1, etc and it had fascinating results. was curious if you guys ever experimented with stuff like that too. thanks!
fibonacci is kind of hard to work with cos the vals scale up so fast
but it def looks pretty
i did some fm with it once, tuning each freq that way, came out pretty natural sounding actually
seen this?
http://whitneymusicbox.org/index.php?var=v12
it's fun
oh jesus primes
ow my brain
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What did you use in LP5 apart from Nord synths? Is that final part of Vose in Supercollider?
tons of nord, bits of asr10, bits of dx100, few other things
end of vose in was sound edit 16
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First off, M39 Diffain is fuckin dope. The dynamic interplay between the background sounds and foreground....It has this effect of inducing very strong psychedelic sensations... Most of your songs are capable of doing this but, for me, M39 is the pinnacle of your efforts toward this end. So props for that, your service to humanity has not gone unnoticed.The level of detail and sheer exploratory listening that Exai and L-Event provide is exceptional. There are so many sounds opening up and revealing themselves in cascades but they're each given the proper space to be appreciated.Was there a point where you came across a general aesthetic direction for Exai and ran with it? The tracks seem to exude a cohesive otherworldly style and dominance like interacting with a superior intelligence in a huge space. '1 1 is' and 'nodezsh' being prime examples.Basically, i'm asking to hear your thoughts on the overall sound you achieved with Exai and L-Event and how you perceive it? What excites you about these records in particular?Also, what excited you most about your live oversteppers stuff? It was so fuckin mind melting and almost primordial. Dope as fuck.
yeah i think so, i mean we kind of arrived there cos we had been building this thing for ages and trying to get it to sound deeper all the time, but it wasn't something we had to work to maintain cos by that point we'd set a template more or less, in terms of tech anyway. we could just quickly set up a track and record it and go by feels.
hopefully the depth come across, i mean from your questions i assume it does, which tbh is the most exciting thing. prob seems weird that - cos we don't ostensibly do our stuff to get reactions from random audience members, but it does mean something when what we think we were doing is being noticed. even if it's just like 5 people who get it.
ha wicked cheers, yeah we're working on the next set right now, it might not be the same as the last one but hopefully the depth will be noticeable
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given your maxmsp setup is capable of such a wealth of variation, do you ever feel the urge to release a lot more than you do? it seems like you would have tons of wicked alternate takes a la quaristice ready to go.
then again, exai + l-event is 10 sides of vinyl...
yeah we can't release everything, even 2.5 hours is too much for busy people
Have you guys checked out the Logic Pro X Scripter MIDI plugin? You can use JavaScript to build MIDI processors... You can do some wild stuff with it. I assume you guys are all set with Max though.
i never heard of that actually, i'll look into it cheers
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you ever see this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwidT13MNBA
really turned me on to the nord lead.
really still holds up as a va.
I mean, isn't this possible with a lot of other different VAs? I don't hear anything special there.
tbh the best thing about the lead/rack 1 was the drum maps, having 8 diff sounds per channel is enough to do whole tracks
like, the first half of vose in is all one of those things running realtime. having the limited poly means you get the notes stealing a bit so things overlap weirdly
Interesting.
So, have you tried Blofeld? I mean, it's a really cheap VA (and bugged sometimes) but I think the routing (and programming) possibilities are very good.
never used one but i did like the look of them when they came out, i heard they were buggy tho
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do you guys implore a lot/any numerology in your tracks/programming. i.e.: golden ratio or anything like that?
not nitpicking - but golden ratio isn't really numerology
true, how about number theories, ratios, etc.
funny that came out at 11:11 which i love.
yeah i mean, maths tricks are cool. ratios really seem to come more into play with 2d things tho
i always notice things like proportions of windows as feeling right or wrong but i haven't done any proper research into it
if i was a designer i'd probably be all over it
heh, i am!
i was just asking because tool has a song where they applied the fibonacci to the timing of the song, syllables of the lyrics flow 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 5, 3, 2, 1, 1, etc and it had fascinating results. was curious if you guys ever experimented with stuff like that too. thanks!
fibonacci is kind of hard to work with cos the vals scale up so fast
but it def looks pretty
i did some fm with it once, tuning each freq that way, came out pretty natural sounding actually
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i heard that sean has polish roots, is this true? // (+come to poland lol)
mostly scottish, with a few irish, a few less welsh, and a tiny number of poles
who told u that? p sure i only told like 3 people ever
i found it accidentally on a polish site by googling autechre
http://www.muno.pl/dj-art/autechre/
[...] Rochdale. To właśnie tutaj w połowie lat 80. ubiegłego wieku poznali się Rob Brown i potomek polskich emigrantów Sean Booth [...]
(if you are too lazy to use google translate:)
~[...] Rochdale. Here in the mid 80s of the last century Rob Brown and descendant of Polish immigrants Sean Booth met each other [...]
strange
Yeah I heard it in that Polish radio show. Exactly that sentence.
wow chinese whispers there i reckon
i might have got drunk somewhere and said something, who knows
it's like 2% true if that
ever use numerology under osx?
nah, i've seen it tho, someone i know uses it
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you ever see this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwidT13MNBA
really turned me on to the nord lead.
really still holds up as a va.
I mean, isn't this possible with a lot of other different VAs? I don't hear anything special there.
tbh the best thing about the lead/rack 1 was the drum maps, having 8 diff sounds per channel is enough to do whole tracks
like, the first half of vose in is all one of those things running realtime. having the limited poly means you get the notes stealing a bit so things overlap weirdly
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do you guys implore a lot/any numerology in your tracks/programming. i.e.: golden ratio or anything like that?
not nitpicking - but golden ratio isn't really numerology
true, how about number theories, ratios, etc.
funny that came out at 11:11 which i love.
yeah i mean, maths tricks are cool. ratios really seem to come more into play with 2d things tho
i always notice things like proportions of windows as feeling right or wrong but i haven't done any proper research into it
if i was a designer i'd probably be all over it
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The Stereolab remix is awesome, how did it come about? Are you fans of theirs or did they approach you or what?
Curious about this.
they approached us, are/were fans
i used to like their energy, the way there would just be people on a stage all staring at the floor just concentrating on the sound, i really get that
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Sean (another Max/MSP question, sorry!) -- you mentioned on another forum years ago that SuperCollider has, what Rob said is a 'deluxe' sound 'out of the box' and that over time you've worked out what MSP objects have that sound.
Can you mention a few which you currently consider to be the best sounding for your regular use?
tbh since they went 64 bit this is a moot point, i get better sounding stuff out of max these days
might just be my programming chops, i've been using max a lot longer
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do you guys implore a lot/any numerology in your tracks/programming. i.e.: golden ratio or anything like that?
not nitpicking - but golden ratio isn't really numerology
do you enjoy Nutella spread?
do you enjoy listening to your tracks over anyone elses'?
yeah too much, that stuff's deadly
nah i wouldn't say that, but they sometimes fill a void that seems to present itself
Don't suppose you know why the AM doesn't work properly on VGM Music Maker? (I noticed you love Megadrive sounds) Is there any kind of fix anywhere?
never used that, is it a sega tracker thing?
i only ever played the console i never tried to make tracks with one
Have you tried Speculoos (aka Biscoff) spread? Perhaps even deadlier...
no but i will
where do i get that from?
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i heard that sean has polish roots, is this true? // (+come to poland lol)
mostly scottish, with a few irish, a few less welsh, and a tiny number of poles
who told u that? p sure i only told like 3 people ever
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpFwCN3TTEE&list=PLC37AC9E52F3C505F
1. There is a chance on releasing this in good quality without people? start in 4: 37 but also full would be cool;)
2. If there are other versions of songs from the Exai I mean Quaristice (Versions) only, that for the Exai 3. may in the future I will let your album or ep, I'd like the names for them;)
iirc jamie did record this set but he did a mix of soundboard and room mics, so no basically
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do you enjoy Nutella spread?
do you enjoy listening to your tracks over anyone elses'?
yeah too much, that stuff's deadly
nah i wouldn't say that, but they sometimes fill a void that seems to present itself
Don't suppose you know why the AM doesn't work properly on VGM Music Maker? (I noticed you love Megadrive sounds) Is there any kind of fix anywhere?
never used that, is it a sega tracker thing?
i only ever played the console i never tried to make tracks with one
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So you might have seen those suicide machines:
How stable are your max tunes usually?
Are there some whose parameters descend into chaos after awhile and you edit them down before chaos strikes?
usually theres some control built in or some self regulation or whatever (pure chaos can be a bit silly ultimately)
i mean chaos in the trad sense there not the maths sense
do you rate any british "free" improvisors, like keith rowe (prepared guitar) and john tilbury (piano) ? these two make a lot of unusual, atonal sounds (AMM, as a group) in realtime. their recordings, such as "newfoundland" are similarly odd and alien-sounding as autechre. the approach being different of course. curious if there's any interest there..
thanks for doing these questions, this is insane. and thanks for all the quality output
i like fred frith a lot but i dunno the others u mentioned, its not a 'scene' i dig into much, just cos it seems to vary so much
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today for example i'm listening to a smart playlist which is sorted by bpm
haha! speeding up or slowing down?
also, actual bpm or computationally guesstimated?
speeding up, but its happening really slowly, takes like 2 hours to get thru each whole bpm
computationally. but i like that cos some come out half speed or it sometimes plays one with the kicks doing a hemiola thing or whatever, it breaks things up nicely
this is indeed excellent.. running this analyzer over my lib now, intermediate results are already quite good: http://www.beatunes.com/itunes-automatic-bpm-detection.html
reminds me of another thing, not really a question tho... you mentioned earlier that working with data mining on your own music is not really a thing you're into if i understood right..
however, have you ever? there's e.g. this online API: http://developer.echonest.com/docs/v4/
it has a thing where you can get detailed analysis of an audio file, down to a "perceptive" description of each individual detected "played note" or hit in a piece.. more info about this here: http://developer.echonest.com/docs/v4/_static/AnalyzeDocumentation.pdf (PDF link)
basically you upload a track and get back some JSON/XML with lots of number/timestamp pairs relating to timbre/tonality and such.
interesting stuff imo... so far have only used it for visualization myself, but could be interesting for generating synth automation etc., especially related to how a BPM analyzer gets things wrong with interesting results nonetheless...
yeah i sometimes sort large folders of one-shots by crest factor (p useful) - u can do that in sample manager
i did a load of tracks that are made of 1000s of drum machine presets all sorted by crest factor and then appended, so it keeps getting more intense over time
just for sport i might add
edit: this looks cool btw, thanks
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What where you doing there, Rob?
on my imaginary phone, yeah sand in my eyes, no crying
are you sure no crying coz in this next one it really looks like you are.
she was like, sit here lads (in the windiest sandiest part of the british isles)
AAA - Ask Autechre Anything - Sean and Rob on WATMM!
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that recury one's wrong
that would be nice, and it's certainly possible