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- speaking of CPU load, could you make all the sounds at the last tour only with MSP?
- can we hope you'll come to Croatia on your next tour?
- i understand that not all tracks for tour 'work' as tracks for releases but the track from 2008 tour that starts at 20 min is absolutely genius. that momentum, that energy (creative, sexual and intellectual all in one) is something i heard only in beethoven's symphonies, no where else. the closes released track is spl9 and it 'works' fantastically. will you consider releasing more tracks with that kind of energy?
most of it, some of it's g2 stuff which we'd still have to build, but yeah i reckon there's nothing too intensive there really
er yeah i guess, we always did those kind of tracks for EPs and live sets anyway, at least it felt that way, maybe slightly less slamming on the EPs
i think what it is, we like listening to certain kinds of stuff at home and on headphones, and we like hearing more slamming things when we're out in a club, and we do what feels right in each context
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Great fun reading (most of) this thread last night and today. Some of the insight in here covers topics I never thought the fanbase would ever get an official word on, so that's excellent. Thanks both for doing this.
Apologies if any of this was asked from around the 100-page mark, which I've yet to get through. Most of the stuff I would have wanted to know about has been covered so excuse if any of this is mundane.
1) Any thoughts on Funckarma and other output by the Funcken brothers? The structure of some of their early stuff is somewhat reminiscent of mid-90s Ae, and they've done loads of music without much development after getting in their comfort zone of sci-fi music (I often find it evoking the 'high tech low life' atmosphere of cyberpunk). I just have such a soft spot for that, and along with your own catalogue find bits and pieces of it among my favourite electronic music at the moment. Does it hit that spot for you too?
2) The track you did at Stormy Waters in 1995 is one of my favourites. Rumours went around here lately that it went by the name 'Second Crane'. Was this the case, or is it a fan name?
3) Dunno if we're still playing the naming game by this point (just got home) but well: I don't know how either of you feel about spiders, but I keep tarantulas as a serious hobby. Having passed the 50 mark I'd appreciate some help with names. If you wish to suggest any for my two Pamphobeteus sp. "Machalla", it would be a great/amusing honour. I include a photo of one in the spoiler should you wish for a visual reference.
Again thanks. Keep up the great work!
1) not heard much apart from the stuff on skam, which is p good
2) that sounds fairly legit but i can't rem, prob them PRS forms again
3) your spider is now called Itsy
Have you ever heard a music which successfully combines the best elements of say The Melvins/Venetian Snares or Queen Adreena/Aphex Twin or The Locust/Autechre - is such a thing possible?
(Something that is neither rock set to electronic beats nor rock music with electronic instruments but a true melding of the two? Music with electronic stimulation, imagination, diversity and exploration of sound and vocal/analogue instrument gut human emotion/physicality?)
tbh i find these kind of axes a bit artificial, arbitrary at best. it's a shame there are these two predominant camps given how flexible it all actually is
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In total, how many ae tracks have the vocal sample from draun quarter :) in them?
is there a vocal sample in that?
Yeah and it's a mindfuck
oh god yeah i rem now
ahaha
not telling
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how much percent of recording actually turns up on an album? I hope you understand what I mean
varies a lot, some albums it's about half and some it's like 10%
the last couple have been more like 5% actually, maybe less
actually- including things like sketches and test files it's <1%, but you wouldn't wanna sit thru all them unless you were mental
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In total, how many ae tracks have the vocal sample from draun quarter :) in them?
is there a vocal sample in that?
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given your maxmsp setup is capable of such a wealth of variation, do you ever feel the urge to release a lot more than you do? it seems like you would have tons of wicked alternate takes a la quaristice ready to go.
then again, exai + l-event is 10 sides of vinyl...
yeah we can't release everything, even 2.5 hours is too much for busy people
there are loads of people that would defo listen to a 10 hour release, let alone a 2.5er.
helps, me personally, focus on my werk. could be themed into chunks for those with shorter attention spans. [thank you internet]
long and short of it is....seems like the crowd here can't get enough Ae ;)
as this is supposed to be questions only, one more if i'm not too late...
sine, square, saw or random?
thanks again for taking all the time you guys have to wade through and answer as many Qs as you have.
oh wow that's actually quite tough
prob square
Dunno if its been talked before but there is this Seefeel remix of yours, Spangle, could tell a bit more about it ? its been released on cd in 2003 but i was wondering if it was from amber era, some forgotten tune that took years to release.
yeah we gave em that before basscadet came out, we did the swap at the same time roughly
i dunno why warp didn't release it (lightweights)
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massive thanks for doing this!!!
my questions are, who is your favorite visual artist at the moment?
i, personally, am very into illustration and arty stuff...
and do you sometimes make tracks pure for your own listening pleasure, like Boards of Canada with their cassetes, and Richard with his Thousands of tracks? perfectly finished tracks, but specially made to never leave the studio?
i like john berkey a lot, i like how he manages to convey scale but using really vague strokes, think he's a bit of a genius actually
and i really like syd mead and jean giraud as well
yeah we make tracks for ourselves all the time but sometimes i expressly make say a hip hop track or a straight 4/4 techno track, but i usually get bored before i finish them
i dunno how other people get anything like that finished tbh
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1) At gigs, does the crowd (re)act notably differently depening where you are? Rob said you chose "Zurich 2001" as a bonus track because it's "a good display of how well it can kick off in Europe at a electronic gig". Things don't kick off like that at other places? Do you know what kind of mentality to expect from a crowd before you perform? You did say it's mostly Americans constantly checking their phones, iirc. Are crowds notably different from country to country, or is it more notable on different continents?
2) How do you consider the Belgian crowds like? Dull? Bangin'? Just ok?
3) You have any anecdotes involving Belgian gigs you are willing to share? Or just Belgium, doesn't have to be at a gig per se.
4) Sean, do you know that Rob has already updated his status here, chatted a little bit in chatmm, and added a bunch of friends to his list? Using nearly all functions of this forum. Just saying, because I heard somewhere you guys like to one-up eachother ;p
1) well thats a lot of questions for one question
yeah it varies tons, every city is different, and countries have their own tendencies too
2) really good so far, they get it no matter how hard or weird we make it
3) yeah once i re-eq'd derrick may's dj set from a mixer which he was running thru but was like at the other end of a venue behind a curtain
i was hyping up all his snare rushes with eq sweeps and stuff, was p good lulz
4) yeah but i answered like 10 times as many q's - TAKE YOUR PICK
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Can you give us a hint about wether there is a hidden message encoded in the covers of Exai and/or L-Event?
Many cryptomancers are working on it. But without any result yet:
http://www.reddit.com/r/codes/comments/1mmmqu/hidden_message_in_autechre_cover_art/
:wang: :wang: pls
yeah cos revealing hidden messages is a brilliant idea :D
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Oh yeah, what is the noise in the beginning of 2nd Bad? That is kind of the best noise ever.
a korg ms-10 patch
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Speaking of limiters, and this goes back to the mastering question I asked before, but do you usually put any compression/limiter on the main bus or do leave that up to Noel?
Do you guys make more money from releases or touring?
we might but noel never does, all he ever does is roll off a tiny bit of bass (we have smaller speakers than him)
more from releases but touring doesn't make a lot of money for us cos of all the expenses, we like it like that tho
one off gigs are a lot more profitable than both
Are the 303 and the Amen break magical?
nah they're both really well tuned
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dunno if covered already so soz if so...
it's rumoured both you and cunningham didn't like the 2nd bad vilbel vid? any truth in any of that?
nah not at all
i mean we had no money at all to make it, it was all favours, and when we got the original edit we wanted to tighten it up a bit so me and rob went in with chris and kim (the editor) to see if we could make it seem more 'in time' and what we got was pretty good considering
i know chris was never quite into the alien bits and later he did his own edit in final cut to try to remove the bits he didn't like but i always preferred the original myself, i like how cheap it is
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Saw you were already asked a few questions about field recordings, but if either of you could choose (1) a favorite man-made sound and (2) a favorite "natural" sound, in terms of something you've just always enjoyed since you were younger or ideas they've inspired, what would they be?
IE: found the other day that the little strips of bark that spiral off of a birch can be whittled down easily to produce specific pitches, then played like a kalimba...made a melody for a track this way recently. I'm curious if this sort of thing happens in your process very frequently, at least in terms of inspiration coming from the sonic environment around you.
Apologies if this has already been asked in some form, and thanks again for doing this guys. Used to moderate here years ago but actually just rejoined so I could hop in this thread. It's good to be back. Cheers.
P.S. If you could name my EH Holiest Grail, that would be most rad.
i think we already did this but i like this q so will answer again
throwing stones onto an icy lake is really lush
and the sound of an approaching train sometimes sends shockwaves up the tracks which you can hear way before the train arrives, i always liked that
that fact about birch is amazing, so the harmonies are built into the structure of the wood already. mind = blown
yeah i mean we stumble upon things a lot
i think the thing is to stay open minded so when things like that occur you actually notice them, as opposed to rigidly finishing the task you started (this is the main reason i prefer max to sc)
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why not continue lentic catachresis these beautiful chords and rolled in broken stuff?
how to relate to today's listener can feel a difference between a rave nineties and so what happens now?
with electronic music there are always going to be overlapping generations of producers, it doesn't have the same kind of physical limits that being a rock star seems to
as far as knowing what a younger audience thinks of early rave music, i have no idea
house has been quite trendy over the last cpl of years, and i'd like to think that's cos some of the good stuff has enduring aesthetic qualities
(but then i hear someone play 'ride on time' in a club and i realise i might be a bit wrong about that)
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Do you master your own albums? If not, have you ever been disappointed in the mix?
no and anyone who thinks that's a viable option doesn't really know what mastering means
we do the mix ourselves (mixing != mastering)
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look here
thats prob the most weirdest (I know thats totally wrong english but thats just the best way to describe what it is) webpage related to autechre
comments?
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Music/Autechre?from=Main.Autechre
>canon discontinuity
stopped reading there
Were there any equivalents in your opinion of you and RDJ (In my opinion, haha) in before you started releasing stuff? I mean in terms of dedication, taste, experimentation, etc. All those things that make you and him unique.
i dunno what you think marks us out tbh, there were tons of amazing electro producers before us
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sorry I am the king of multiple question posts LOL: (sorry I am in incredibly good mood today)
1.many tracks sound hiphop to me (examples: recks on, eutow, cipater etc. etc.) intentional? ever thought a bout (obv in a autechre way) a straightfoward hiphop album?
2.I think Second Peng is quite dubby...agree?
3.do you ever do meet and greets?
4. I some time ago already mentioned the Autechre Track Titles Wiki can you just give us a link which page has the most and which one has the least correct facts?
5.will this track (
) will ever be released as a studio album on an EP or so? also..why no eps for Untilted?wasn't this at the music box in manchester. it was released in japan only, as a bonus track for confield.
nah it was at toolshed
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sorry I am the king of multiple question posts LOL: (sorry I am in incredibly good mood today)
1.many tracks sound hiphop to me (examples: recks on, eutow, cipater etc. etc.) intentional? ever thought a bout (obv in a autechre way) a straightfoward hiphop album?
2.I think Second Peng is quite dubby...agree?
3.do you ever do meet and greets?
4. I some time ago already mentioned the Autechre Track Titles Wiki can you just give us a link which page has the most and which one has the least correct facts?
5.will this track (
) will ever be released as a studio album on an EP or so? also..why no eps for Untilted?wasn't this at the music box in manchester. it was released in japan only, as a bonus track for confield.
lel i saw that
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Anyway, speaking of Voigt, are you guys into him? He's one of the few other musicians out there who, in my opinion, are just so consumed in their own musical universe to really be compared to anyone else, much like AE. I recently scored a copy of his super-rare Ruckverzauberung 4 album, directly from him too, and it's been blowing my mind lately...
yeah i love his stuff, he's got mad talent imo
i did grab ruckverrzauberung4 for cheap when it went out, great album yeah. Voigt is hard to follow with all of his releases but fascinating musician (mixing old german instruments/sounds in a techno context & his "loops" skills). i have not listened to that Stone Roses tune for age, but yeah its a top one.
Speaking about manchester & electro during the 80s interesting story coz its kinda "history" in indie rock circles now, there are actual movies about it.
You're credited in the Prebuild LP, were that you who convinced 808 state to put out those old tracks ?
yeah i was bugging graham to see if there was anything unreleased and i ended up with a cd of tracks, and then like 3 days later i was getting emails off richard about it
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Krib is my fav song by ae. Compared to your output these days, it's a very simple song. What song is your most complex? What song took the longest to produce?
i dunno i mean that word complex has a lot of diff meanings and contexts
longest to produce - i dunno that either, i don't keep track properly at all
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I'm going to see ryoji ikeda this saturday. Are you guys into his stuff?
i really like 1000 fragments, less into his annoying high pitched tone stuff
tbh i think a lot of his stuff (conceptually) had already been handled better by the hafler trio
Ace, you're right - When I googled 'Hans-Joachim Roedelius; Über berg und tal' it point to this which credits the track:Leafs posted that it is the opening track on Flieg', Vogel, Fliege, which makes sense as that album is supposed to be one of his "selfportrait" albums...
u sure, i can't play this for some reason, but my copy sounds nothing like the track in the OP
cool u found it - its incredible - theres also a track on the album 'auf leisen sohlen' by the same name, lol patchy bastard.
i have two versions of selbstportrait with the same listing and different tracks as well
i thought Germans were noted for being thorough? ah, he's austrian.
I was just gonna say, this seems like something Wolfgang Voigt would do...reminds me of the CD and LP differences of Konigsforst.
I have been meaning to pick up all the Selbstportrait records for a while now...actually, funnily enough, I think it was that mystery track that sparked my interest in Roedelius. When I sent Leafs that track years ago, he speculated that it could have been Roedelius, but the guy has done so much stuff it seemed like we'd never find it. Then he told me a bit later about the Selbstportrait stuff and how I'd love it, and here I am again now.
Going to buy all this stuff at once when I get some cash again, if I can afford it.
Anyway, speaking of Voigt, are you guys into him? He's one of the few other musicians out there who, in my opinion, are just so consumed in their own musical universe to really be compared to anyone else, much like AE. I recently scored a copy of his super-rare Ruckverzauberung 4 album, directly from him too, and it's been blowing my mind lately...
yeah i love his stuff, he's got mad talent imo
After posting that I realized you remixed Mike Ink back in the day, so DERP!
Though I guess that was a long time ago now, and lord knows a couple years of time passing for Wolfgang is like a couple universes for the rest of us. So it's cool to know you still like him now!
One of the other artists I think falls into that category is Pub - do you guys know his stuff at all? He's been self-releasing most of his work via Ampoule Records in Scotland for years, and he really doesn't sound like anyone else out there. Somehow completely organic and alive, yet electronic all the same:
[youtubehd]B_YqFK9f4jM[/youtubehd]
[youtubehd]v2mW35D_tfw[/youtubehd]
yeah track 2 @ 0'30'' that step filter , reminds me of basic channel, tbh despite the many ppl on the electronic dub thing, i thing there's always more room for ppl, its a delicate style, so even the most subtle of personalities can render a greater difference.
yeah fully
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sorry I am the king of multiple question posts LOL: (sorry I am in incredibly good mood today)
1.many tracks sound hiphop to me (examples: recks on, eutow, cipater etc. etc.) intentional? ever thought a bout (obv in a autechre way) a straightfoward hiphop album?
2.I think Second Peng is quite dubby...agree?
3.do you ever do meet and greets?
4. I some time ago already mentioned the Autechre Track Titles Wiki can you just give us a link which page has the most and which one has the least correct facts?
5.will this track (
) will ever be released as a studio album on an EP or so? also..why no eps for Untilted?1. yeah course it's intentional :D tbh we usually think of what we do as a branch/offshoot of hip hop. we could in theory, but i dunno how straightforward it would be, being us
2. yeah that's fair
3. not for the sake of it
4. they all have a mixture, i dunno if i cba reading it all just to post that soz
5. no that was a live jam done at graham's toolshed night at band on the wall, no recording exists afaik. re:untitled i was moving house and things were a bit hectic
Ace, you're right - When I googled 'Hans-Joachim Roedelius; Über berg und tal' it point to this which credits the track:Leafs posted that it is the opening track on Flieg', Vogel, Fliege, which makes sense as that album is supposed to be one of his "selfportrait" albums...
u sure, i can't play this for some reason, but my copy sounds nothing like the track in the OP
cool u found it - its incredible - theres also a track on the album 'auf leisen sohlen' by the same name, lol patchy bastard.
i have two versions of selbstportrait with the same listing and different tracks as well
i thought Germans were noted for being thorough? ah, he's austrian.
I was just gonna say, this seems like something Wolfgang Voigt would do...reminds me of the CD and LP differences of Konigsforst.
I have been meaning to pick up all the Selbstportrait records for a while now...actually, funnily enough, I think it was that mystery track that sparked my interest in Roedelius. When I sent Leafs that track years ago, he speculated that it could have been Roedelius, but the guy has done so much stuff it seemed like we'd never find it. Then he told me a bit later about the Selbstportrait stuff and how I'd love it, and here I am again now.
Going to buy all this stuff at once when I get some cash again, if I can afford it.
Anyway, speaking of Voigt, are you guys into him? He's one of the few other musicians out there who, in my opinion, are just so consumed in their own musical universe to really be compared to anyone else, much like AE. I recently scored a copy of his super-rare Ruckverzauberung 4 album, directly from him too, and it's been blowing my mind lately...
yeah i love his stuff, he's got mad talent imo
After posting that I realized you remixed Mike Ink back in the day, so DERP!
Though I guess that was a long time ago now, and lord knows a couple years of time passing for Wolfgang is like a couple universes for the rest of us. So it's cool to know you still like him now!
One of the other artists I think falls into that category is Pub - do you guys know his stuff at all? He's been self-releasing most of his work via Ampoule Records in Scotland for years, and he really doesn't sound like anyone else out there. Somehow completely organic and alive, yet electronic all the same:
[youtubehd]B_YqFK9f4jM[/youtubehd]
[youtubehd]v2mW35D_tfw[/youtubehd]
not heard this guy b4, sounds p good, i'll get onto it cheers
nice metallic delays in the first one
regarding karaoke, what's your weapon of choice ?
if wigs are available it would have to be fools gold really
i watched made of stone last night. have you seen it and what are your thoughts if so?
brown is autotuned to fuck in the rehearsal bits and the H Park is overdubbed beyond recognition! still a good watch for an old fan but cringey as fuck!
maybe obvious but did you (like me) find 808 state through the manchester thing? joy division, mondays, martin hammet, etc.
not seen it
i'm not a stone roses fan really but i do like fools gold cos of how they flipped that break
edit: sorry i missed the last bit
nah first time i heard 808 state was when stu allan played flow coma, we were into dance music for years before that
that madchester thing fucked a lot of things up tbh cos according to rock historians dance music started in manchester with the haccy, but it's not true at all, there was a huge black music scene round here in the early 80s, my secondary school got so sick of us breakdancing in the toilets they decided to open up the assembly hall for it every lunchtime
cheers...
sorry, i had added another sneaky edit...
you dig andy stott at all? he seems to almost be at the opposite spectrum to what you do in terms of sound iykwim.
some of it's alright but it sounds a bit easy to me
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Ace, you're right - When I googled 'Hans-Joachim Roedelius; Über berg und tal' it point to this which credits the track:Leafs posted that it is the opening track on Flieg', Vogel, Fliege, which makes sense as that album is supposed to be one of his "selfportrait" albums...
u sure, i can't play this for some reason, but my copy sounds nothing like the track in the OP
cool u found it - its incredible - theres also a track on the album 'auf leisen sohlen' by the same name, lol patchy bastard.
i have two versions of selbstportrait with the same listing and different tracks as well
i thought Germans were noted for being thorough? ah, he's austrian.
I was just gonna say, this seems like something Wolfgang Voigt would do...reminds me of the CD and LP differences of Konigsforst.
I have been meaning to pick up all the Selbstportrait records for a while now...actually, funnily enough, I think it was that mystery track that sparked my interest in Roedelius. When I sent Leafs that track years ago, he speculated that it could have been Roedelius, but the guy has done so much stuff it seemed like we'd never find it. Then he told me a bit later about the Selbstportrait stuff and how I'd love it, and here I am again now.
Going to buy all this stuff at once when I get some cash again, if I can afford it.
Anyway, speaking of Voigt, are you guys into him? He's one of the few other musicians out there who, in my opinion, are just so consumed in their own musical universe to really be compared to anyone else, much like AE. I recently scored a copy of his super-rare Ruckverzauberung 4 album, directly from him too, and it's been blowing my mind lately...
yeah i love his stuff, he's got mad talent imo
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regarding karaoke, what's your weapon of choice ?
if wigs are available it would have to be fools gold really
i watched made of stone last night. have you seen it and what are your thoughts if so?
brown is autotuned to fuck in the rehearsal bits and the H Park is overdubbed beyond recognition! still a good watch for an old fan but cringey as fuck!
maybe obvious but did you (like me) find 808 state through the manchester thing? joy division, mondays, martin hammet, etc.
not seen it
i'm not a stone roses fan really but i do like fools gold cos of how they flipped that break
edit: sorry i missed the last bit
nah first time i heard 808 state was when stu allan played flow coma, we were into dance music for years before that
that madchester thing fucked a lot of things up tbh cos according to rock historians dance music started in manchester with the haccy, but it's not true at all, there was a huge black music scene round here in the early 80s, my secondary school got so sick of us breakdancing in the toilets they decided to open up the assembly hall for it every lunchtime
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nah it went more like this
renaat: 'i really enjoyed your latest EP, it's amazing'
me: 'oh thanks, that's an honour'
renaat: 'what was that track in your live set? i would love to release that!'
me: 'oh, er, that's on the latest EP'
renaat: 'oh god i'm sorry you caught me out there, oh how embarrassing'
me: 'yeah, lol'