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hell yeah
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so how long after the cheetah ep is released can we expect the soundcloud dump remaster bleepstore?
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In other news: has anyone checked if there's a Japan bonus track already?
In other news: has anyone checked if there's a Japan bonus track already?
Well, the 7th track is already exclusive to cassette, CD and digital so I doubt there'll be an extra bonus track. But we can hope
i wonder if we'll get another miscellaneous track thrown out there like umil was for ODJS
that tune was better than most of the EP for me
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no negative comments toward syro allowed
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I don't get what's so awesome about this (from the amazon samples)? It's nice electronic music, but hardly anything mindblowingly excellent. Had the same feelings about Syro.
agree sadly, the first few tracks especially seem underwhelming and a bit bare-bones.. obviously the 30sec samples might not make much sense outside of the entire tracks tho
digging cirklon 1 however and revamped cheetah3 is fuckingFUCK
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I've asked both sellers to take their Discogs listings down, if a few other people do the same maybe they'll see ome sense :)
it's against the rules to list something for sale not in your possession, i'm pretty sure that it is grounds for suspension actually
stealth edit: the guidelines explicitly say "pre-orders" aren't permitted
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looks like there's an official site too: http://www.cheetah-ep.com/
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i wish i was a cheetah
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Noice! Anyone remember AFX's sc comments about him being into badly written 1980's synth manuals? Seems like this is the result.
Hope those two Cheetah soundcloud tracks make it on there, or at least this one:
reads the same as the syro promotional text too!
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not really sure what multimedia and collage "content" is being talked about, but i have to admit i was somewhat intrigued by dom's force publique congo project. too bad it seems to be now dormant.
next up: anyone checking out dario fariello?
he sees his work as a collage project in the sense that every type of media involved is of equal importance, and made with equal effort and deliberation. i.e the album artwork, other visual imagery - either in additional inserts or the way a release is packaged, text (lyrics, track titles, quotes and essays included in a release), indeed live performance as well, and of course, the actual music in the audio sense. all of these elements are working together to reinforce each other and give context to one another, and can change how you interpret one aspect compared to another. all of it comes together as a final piece in the same way a collage does.
i hope that makes sense, because i'm doubting myself while writing it
Your instinctive doubts were correct.
Intention doesnt carry much weight if the resulting sonic repertoire is so poor. If the sounds are bunk, no amount of gimmicks are going to enhance it.
Interpreting some form of multifarious "collage" just goes to show that the both the artist and yourself over-reach by implying this to be further evidence of something meaningful.
Shirt off emo bollix. Suit on emo bollix. Same thing ultimately: shit art.
again, i have to ask; what have you heard of his? i can only imagine someone holding this opinion if they put on cocaine death and and still wanting once, which IMO are some of his weakest albums.
it's a bit of a shame that his most well-known records are only so largely because of their notoriety - being covered by rolling stone et al, and rarely beyond "great music to scare your roommate," followed by pitchfork catching on with "wow intense." i like these records just fine, but they pale in comparison to his back catalogue.
even so, your reply boiled down to "i don't like the sounds so it sucks," which is just acting stubborn and shitty. labelling everything else as a gimmick tells me you just haven't tried to sit down and spend time with his material. gimmickry is null when most releases you buy of his will come with a literal further reading list - it's well researched, not just extra tackle to try and make up for something lacking.
admittedly, i don't get as much as i used to out of his, uh, emo bollix material (back when i fit the category that Dan C described above), and obviously neither do you, so check out:
all are guests in the house of the lord (collaboration with kevin drumm)
self titled LP
mermaid skeleton
ghosts of niagara (collaboration with c. spencer yeh / burning star core)
tiger smells a corpse
fossil and black vase (full band lineup live recordings, with kris lapke / alberich and ben barnett from dropdead IIRC)
annihilationist and unmasking the insect are also top notch if you're into minimal and restrained noise
re force publique congo, i've not actually heard any of that material! it looks stellar though. could you recommend a release?
there's only technically 2 releases because the project started off by releasing a single on cassette each week or so (at the end of the year, a compilation cassette made up of all these singles was released as 'civil war follows colonization' (oddly enough, this compilation missed 'copper, rubber and witchcraft in zandeland' which was my intro to the project)
the next was the only full length release (also on cassette): 'population loss in the rubber-rich equatorial colonies'
personally i enjoyed the latter a little more as a full release but there are a few songs in the first tapes (civil war follows colonization comp.) that are pretty stellar. you can find samples here
spot on, thanks. i'll check out the samples later today. sadly it seems the digital releases of these tapes were taken down from boomkat and other distros, amongst the rest of the digital hospital catalogue cull
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not really sure what multimedia and collage "content" is being talked about, but i have to admit i was somewhat intrigued by dom's force publique congo project. too bad it seems to be now dormant.
next up: anyone checking out dario fariello?
he sees his work as a collage project in the sense that every type of media involved is of equal importance, and made with equal effort and deliberation. i.e the album artwork, other visual imagery - either in additional inserts or the way a release is packaged, text (lyrics, track titles, quotes and essays included in a release), indeed live performance as well, and of course, the actual music in the audio sense. all of these elements are working together to reinforce each other and give context to one another, and can change how you interpret one aspect compared to another. all of it comes together as a final piece in the same way a collage does.
i hope that makes sense, because i'm doubting myself while writing it
re force publique congo, i've not actually heard any of that material! it looks stellar though. could you recommend a release?
been spending a lot of time with rainforest spiritual enslavement recently. that project pushes all of my buttons. taking place in the foyer is outstanding
to me, with this in mind, it is impossible to be a 'poser' thing because it is not at all about posturing! i don't see how you can expect someone to think you're cool and super edgy when you're screaming your lungs out about how your uncle just died, and all the existential terror that comes with that (rose pillar), or how you're terrified of love (fossil).
Gag me with a fucking spoon
that sounds painful and unnecessary for both of us
i realise how cringe-y that possibly all seems, but i hope you understand what i'm getting at. you can't intimidate someone when they've read your diary, right?
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here it is, emphasis (what's the plural of emphasis?) mine; this is long and fanboyish as fuck and most of it is rather subjective so I highlighted the more objective claims for discussion purposes, not gonna blame you if you dont real the whole thing heh
I don't really give a fuck about Prurient btw, I think I've listened to 3 Prurient tracks in my life tops, but he elicits a strong reaction from both fans and haters which is always entertaining
Fernow's own body of work as an artist should speak for itself. The amount of variety on display throughout it in terms of sound, motivation, inspiration and goal is intimidating; he absolutely refuses to get comfortable. As a visual artist, as a sound artist, as a concept artist; as someone bringing all these elements together into multifaceted final works, his vision is as imaginative and layered as it is experienced and skilled on a purely technical level. Most people are yet to realise just how influential and important quite a few Prurient albums are.
Prurient releases work fantastically well as manifestations of both vision and craft, and are utterly idiosyncratic. He operates in a space that's both emotionally resonant, conceptually and theoretically developed, technically accomplished, and impactful on a purely visceral level. Most artists can't juggle all that at once; they just settle for one field and stick with it.
Frankly, he has pioneered multimedia, extramusicality - or as he puts it; "content" in music. He doesn't see himself as a musician, but rather an artist using sound as part of a greater collage project. NOTHING is wasted on a Prurient release. Every track title, lyric, image, text, packaging is crucial, and all of those elements work together to create something greater than the sum of it's parts. I’ve never seen anyone pull of concept/content so powerfully in music, let alone emphasise it - vocally in interviews, too, at that - so much.
That, and the vast majority of his releases are so intensely personal in their content that it is mesmerising for me that he actually has the balls to release them. Buy a copy of Rose Pillar to see this for yourself. As for live performances, the energy and sheer enthusiasm is second to none. He is the epitome of an artist that gives everything his all.
His label Hospital is probably *the* noise label and he's curated it entirely himself, founding it at age 16 entirely from scratch and successfully making it his goal to be involved with the majority of the most important names in the genre. Pick any big-name US noise artist and you can draw a line connecting them and Fernow in some way - he'll either toured/performed with them, have a split release, a design/production credit somewhere on a release, or at the very least a namedrop.
His curatorial approach with Hospital has done wonders to shatter various preconceptions about how all the tiny niches making up the wider noise sphere should relate to each other, with a total blurring of the lines between what is supposed to be "intelligent and sophisticated art noise" and "lowly vulgar extreme noise”. Fernow’s own Prurient project itself has done the same. Hospital ignored this supposed barrier between the two in favour of just releasing genuinely forward-thinking, strongly individual work which was still the product of intelligent minds, regardless of whether it came from the art school or the underground, and regardless of whether its source of inspiration came from GRM or extreme pornography.
Additionally, the now sadly defunct Hospital record store and distro's importance as a wide-ranging point of connection between the wider international noise scene cannot be understated. In that regard, the only other upstart presence in 2000s noise which held as much importance was Carlos Giffoni’s No Fun Fest, compared to longer-running institutions like Ron Lessard’s RRRecords.
wow! despite the blatant fanboyism and lavishing praise, this absolutely nails it. particularly the part about multimedia and collage - to me that is the vast majority of the appeal of dom's work. it totally changed how i looked at music
(i hope my own fanboyism isn't too obvious in my posts)
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i kinda agree with realthanks although cwmbrancity brought up a good point: prurient did always seem more popular with the goth electro crowd (never got into vatican city) particularly his shows where'd he'd get overly emotional. will never forget this one show i went to see him in brooklyn and he had his back to the audience the entire time. everyone was shouting "turn around" and he just kept rubbing his mic to the speaker before storming off stage in a huff.
later i saw him outside (shirtless of course) sipping a beer with a bunch of girls trying to calm him down. i felt like going over to give him a hug. antics like that always made him seem a little bit like a poser because he lacked the humor of people like non. that and the fact that some of his lyrics were lifted from poetry books
i will say though i really enjoyed releases like cocaine death, 'and still, wanting' and 'shipwrecker's diary'. i know a lot of people love 'the history of aids' but i always found that like an attempt to replicate early richard ramirez or smell & quim releases
it seems the rapid fanbase growth and 'demographic' shift coincided with the release of bermuda drain in 2011. it was much more accessible, hell even danceable, than his other records, and released on metal label hydra head. and also - perhaps moreso - the advent of his vatican shadow, like you said.
around that time he had been part of mopey synthpop/post-punk band cold cave (although i kind of like them), which would have widened his visibility to that sort of crowd, no less informed his music. add in to that equation the all-black berghain types that he attracted with vatican and you have his current fanbase!
i can picture the scene you described perfectly, lol. the early shirtless shows were very much a way of dom dealing with his personal demons, and he channeled a LOT of emotion into those performances. 'storming off in a huff' was inevitable no matter the crowd's reception - check out this show (especially his exit, and ron lessard losing it in the crowd):
also as a heads up, Jean Feraca - the poet you linked - is his mother! they collaborate a lot
Prurient is awful and a poser yes, was there ever any doubt?
i still totally fail to see the multitude of poser accusations. from what i've heard, fernow is incredibly humble, down to earth and funny in person, despite the impression prurient gives on all levels. the project is extremely personal and very serious in its content, and i can see how this can be overbearing - especially given the dark, violent and seedy subtext.
to me, with this in mind, it is impossible to be a 'poser' thing because it is not at all about posturing! i don't see how you can expect someone to think you're cool and super edgy when you're screaming your lungs out about how your uncle just died, and all the existential terror that comes with that (rose pillar), or how you're terrified of love (fossil). it's certainly very unapologetic, in your face and grating at times, but the work is coming from a very genuine place, and i find something special and poignant in that. to assume it is pretentious and simply about posturing is entirely missing the point of what he does
i remember reading in an interview that he said the purpose of the project was to make people uncomfortable, and to translate his own feelings of anxiety, dread etc into something tangible. by being so direct in the way he does, he succeeds at that for sure
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Available for PRE-ORDER, shipping on the 20th of May.
"Special limited edition starts shipping Thursday this week - selling out fast”
Special Limited Edition contains:
Double Vinyl + Autographed Lyrics Pack Each With A Unique
Handwritten Line Of Whitehouse Lyrics + Postcards + CD.
Look up, look all around you, dump the fucking rubbish, and rise up. Listen to the sound of being alive. Whitehouse. Brand new masters by Noel Summerville of the twelve most intense anthems you will ever know.
Tracklisting:
1. Wriggle Like A Fucking Eel
2. Cruise (Force The Truth)
3. Killing Hurts Give You The Secrets
4. A Cunt Like You
5. Princess Disease
6. Guru
7. Why You Never Became A Dancer
8. Dyad
9. Philosophy
10. Cut Hands Has The Solution
11. Dumping The Fucking Rubbish
12. Daddo
the thing i love about Whitehouse is how refreshed you can feel after exposure to a few tracks..... especially if yer head is in a bit of knot. Wriggle & Why You Never Became a Dancer specifically off this release come to mind.
there's a world of difference from this kind of focused 'noise' and its emotional resonance, to the bs wannabe-Whitehouse that folks like Prurient put out imho.
William Bennett is a psychic healer, in comparison Purient is an electro-goth imitator (excluding certain Vatican Shadow tracks).
(apologies if that offends any1, but its true)
totally agree, i know exactly what you mean
however it's such an enormous stretch to call prurient "wannabe-whitehouse" that you could call anyone who makes power electronics "wannabe-whitehouse". by the same logic pretty much any rock band is "wannabe-led zeppelin" lmao
what prurient releases have you actually heard?
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I'd like to see his philosophy on music making. I remember he said he wanted to mostly talk about his philosophy that in that SUPER LONG interview, then proceeded to literally JUST talk about gear
. He mostly talks about gear, which is mostly interchangeable and not particularly interesting... well mostly since I only occasionally use hardware.He should totally sit down and have a chat with a good interviewer. There are a lot of musicians these days (more people making than buying music?) and it'd be great to hear from people like him some insights into his music making process.
nardwuar vs. rdj
one day
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i can't take this, man
the anticipation is too much
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also if you haven't heard this before, GRAB A COPY! deadly compilation of no bullshit, super dirty noise
v/a - Americanoise
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Americanoise/release/3534801
2012 remastered reissue of the original 1995 tape compilation that came out on Mother Savage. you know it's good when it has the Macronympha seal of approval! big names like Emil Beaulieau, Skin Crime, Taint, Crank Sturgeon, etc.. and the remaster sounds so great
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it's probably worth it, and also it is guaranteed to skyrocket in price once it has sold out, sadly..
weirdly after i posted about whitehouse and prurient, this came up on social media - dom fernow with his copy of the record, lol.
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Available for PRE-ORDER, shipping on the 20th of May.
"Special limited edition starts shipping Thursday this week - selling out fast”
Special Limited Edition contains:
Double Vinyl + Autographed Lyrics Pack Each With A Unique
Handwritten Line Of Whitehouse Lyrics + Postcards + CD.
Look up, look all around you, dump the fucking rubbish, and rise up. Listen to the sound of being alive. Whitehouse. Brand new masters by Noel Summerville of the twelve most intense anthems you will ever know.
Tracklisting:
1. Wriggle Like A Fucking Eel
2. Cruise (Force The Truth)
3. Killing Hurts Give You The Secrets
4. A Cunt Like You
5. Princess Disease
6. Guru
7. Why You Never Became A Dancer
8. Dyad
9. Philosophy
10. Cut Hands Has The Solution
11. Dumping The Fucking Rubbish
12. Daddo
holy moly, just grabbed a copy. what a killer comp - so glad princess disease made it on there.
anyone got hold of the new prurient tape? thoughts? some of his best material in a while imo. the first track is incredible. the guitars didn't go amiss either, sustained post-rocky twangs worked pretty well
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YES i have been waiting too long to throw money at rich for these
do you think a physical release is possible? a nice CD box with some liner notes + cool inserts would be great, perhaps even some of the highlights on wax
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paul woolford just posted this on soundcloud:
hopefully we'll get a download soon
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anyone with the post-soundcloud blues might be interested to know that legowelt is now uploading archival tracks: https://soundcloud.com/legowelt-official
jump ship
. He mostly talks about gear, which is mostly interchangeable and not particularly interesting... well mostly since I only occasionally use hardware.
Richard D James SoundCloud - A Gift To The Fans
in Aphex Twin
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missed these trax!
can someone reupload?