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    the watmm GAS thread

    in EKT General Discussion

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    27 minutes ago, dcom said:

    I'm also a tech person, so I love figuring things out and learning how to work the units, so whenever I have time I'm always hands on with some piece of equipment - having a full-time job and a family doesn't give a lot of time to do that, but I manage.

    A perfectly valid hobby, IMHO.

    Sure, if it's making music you're into, getting new gear all the time and learning how it works is a distraction, but there's nothing wrong with figuring out musical toys as a hobby in and of itself. It's just a bit expensive is all.

     

    In aggregate. Individually, electronic music instruments are dirt cheap. A good oboe will set you back €8000, for example and an entry level bassoon is easy €5000. Even a relatively common instrument like an entry level saxophone is €1600. You can buy a *lot* of Eurorack for that kind of money.

    the watmm GAS thread

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    2 hours ago, auxien said:

    the form factor of the 500 made it the only one i ever looked at seriously. it’s like a straight beats machine, no fluff. pads for beats, a few buttons and dials to help workflow. 

    i imagine you got it for a good price locally, and if it’s in good condition then hey, make some beats.

    MPC One matches that description as well. Don't be fooled by the 7" touch screen. It makes chopping a bit (ok, a lot) easier and I also find it's helpful, but not essential, when engaging in my favorite pastime, adjusting the microtiming of individual hits. It's bigger (about twice the size) than a 500 but not annoyingly so.

    The main excuse for triggering my GAS was that the One does not take power banks well. Internet is rife with stories of people who had crashes and overheating issues because on occasion the thing draws more power than most common power banks are willing to provide.

    So if you're still interested in "a straight beats machine, no fluff. pads for beats, a few buttons and dials to help workflow", give the MPC One a look. It's also tremendous bang for buck.

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    the watmm GAS thread

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    My obsession du jour is an MPC that is smaller than my beloved MPC One, for couch and travelling.

    The sensible option is Koala Sampler on an iPad mini with Garageband for effects (and maybe an effects plugin or two). I already have this.

    The stupid option is an MPC 500. I watched some video's like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjzGIl8b_ls&pp=ygUTbWFybG93IGRpZ3MgbXBjIDUwMA%3D%3D and it really didn't seem that bad (if you're already familiar with the MPC workflow, the menus are not cryptic at all).

    So of course I just bought an MPC 500 on our local Craigslist-like site :facepalm:facepalm

     

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    the watmm GAS thread

    in EKT General Discussion

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    1 hour ago, YEK said:

    So now there’s going to be the push 2 and the push standalone model? My push 2 isn’t going to be outdated?

    As outdated as push 1 is. Same features as when you bought it, still works with the latest version of Live. Ableton is quite nice like that, still supporting a 10 year old device.

    the watmm GAS thread

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    5 hours ago, auxien said:

    need a wavetable flute otherwise i just can't get into these days tho

    Judging from Superbooth the wave table trend has passed and it’s now all about physical modeling so I guess it’s time to put a flute in your flute.

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    the watmm GAS thread

    in EKT General Discussion

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    1 hour ago, auxien said:

    that's why i brought up the guitar feedback thing...it's like being able to highly and expertly control guitar feedback in a highly musical way and more directly than just raw open feedbacking. could get really interesting after some more development.

    That’s a pretty good analogy. Something acoustic sets in motion a feedback loop in an electronic circuit. Only difference is in guitar feedback the feedback loop is maintained by the strings  picking up the sound from the speaker and feeding it back into the pickups and here it’s done electronically, in a kind of resonance circuit (like in filters).

    If you listen to the demos, this is in fact exactly what it sounds like. First the tines are hit and you get a bell like sound and then you’re sustain which sounds like a sine wave (like resonance and guitar feedback).

     

    the watmm GAS thread

    in EKT General Discussion

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    1 hour ago, th555 said:

    "We're hitting the resonator with an electromagnetic hammer" - that's pretty cool actually, I guess they're just switching on and off an electromagnet really quick instead of physically hitting it with a hammer..

    If I understand the bit at 4:00 correctly, they're still "hitting" it but then the electrical signal they pick up goes into an electronic circuit where they boost it so it's sustained or kill it (see 4:45). It's the signal in the electronic circuit that they can do synthesis with it.

    I believe, but I'm not sure, that this is different from a regular electric piano where the sustain is purely acoustic, albeit amplified. Here the sustain is electronic.

    So basically it's a really convoluted method for generating sine waves ?

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    the watmm GAS thread

    in EKT General Discussion

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    So steam pipe is “optimized for performance with wind MIDI controllers”. I’m curious what that means, playing a wind instrument myself and all (poorly). To the best of my knowledge wind controllers are fairly dumb devices that derive velocity information from the pressure of you blowing into it but nothing more. So what is there to optimize for? 

     

     

     

    Synthstrom Deluge goes open source

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    6 hours ago, user said:

    I'll refrain from commenting on making open source tantamount to genocide. But one thing that might be a deterrent to big companies copying the deluge besides the kind of niche market and very involved hardware side of it is the fact that any additions or changes to the code have to be made open source as well. So commercial parties can't just pick and mix or make a proprietary version without publishing their work.

    This is true. The GPL is fantastically viral, unlike the MIT license Mutable Instruments used and that caused their code to end up in the Microfreak.

    On the other hand, if Behringer could find a way to make the hardware cheaper (and I'm pretty sure it could, there's probably nothing special about the Deluge hardware wise) the field would be very much tilted in their favor, even with the software being GPL. The only thing that would prevent them from doing this is if the product is too niche for them (which it likely is).

    Eurovision Song Contest 2023

    in Music Discussion

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    2 hours ago, dcom said:

    There are ongoing plagiarism allegations towards Loreen's Tattoo, Ukraine's Mika Newton had a song in Eurovision 2005 that has the exact same melodic pattern in the chorus, and a 1992 trance track Flying Free by Pont Aeri has almost exactly the same melodic phrase as Tattoo's intro (at about 25 seconds in). Some are hearing ABBA's The Winner Takes It All in it as well.

     

    Generic Eurovision song is gonna generic :shrug:

    23 minutes ago, cern said:

    pretty dope synths inside there! I wonder what that blue module is over the MS-20 Mini 
     

     

    What is she doing? She looks like she’s taking a shit while having a mild epileptic seizure.

    Also: “acoustic”.

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