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cabaret voltaire: 2x45, johnny yesno
FSOL: papua new guinea
autechre: tri repetae, envane
skinny puppy: mind the perpetual intercourse
the tear garden: self titled (center bullet ep in some places)
einsturzende neubauten: haus der luege (the purdy reissue!)
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same, actually the last three tracks on chiastic slide were probably my top favorite autechre tracks for a long time
pule. just love the melodies, phrasing, sounds.. the way it so gently winds down.. the lush trancy loops in the background.. yum
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i find lp5 pretty brilliant (corc, arch carrier..just great). i think i just 'got it' a lot quicker than their other releases and hence don't feel the need to play it as often. it was the same for me with draft. always a treat to play now and then though.
i find chiastic slide, with it's slow, evolving repetitive textures almost hypnotic, lp5 is a very different kind of feel, it's not a put my feet up and close my eyes kind of album. it is however particularly good for road trips
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much purdier than my untilted tour tshirt which is like a plain black american apparel tshirt with 'autechre' wrtten on it in blue
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not a fan of the obvious gradient either :P
I assume that's not in the vinyl set lol
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Gridface " Like “pt2ph8,” however, it’s so abstract it feels incohesive. "
That´s a load of bullshit, one of the most cohesive tracks on the album, with a very clear nu-jazz melody going through the whole track.
me too, i don't get how that track is 'random' at all. it's a 'song' with verse/chorus.. a very logical chord progression with some contrapuntal melody, bassline+lots of nice synth punctuations.. at most maybe some of the counterpoint is generative. whatevs.
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Thanks for this, found it as I explored the forum, and took a few days to d/l.. will seed it for a good while!
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people on discogs hate drums, lol. I'm the opposite, I like some tunes on this but if I listen straight through all the melodies wear me out.
this msgboard rules
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the new cluster album - qua.. first listen.. hmm!
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it's mostly a rant, i guess there's a bit about the album in there ;)
(my tastes do agree with his though..)
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redfall is weird. really the back half of this is weird. in a really good way. it seems to take a different tone than the beginning. a bit darker maybe?
it sounds to me like they are really letting loose with the coil influence in this album
man, this album is like candy for my brain, i'm afraid i'm going to overplay oversteps but it's survived about 2 weeks of addiction so far
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saxophone porn until my .wavs finish downloading...
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There's a bit in O=0 that reminds me of a cheesy bit in a cheesy Emerson Lake & Palmer song (I think). I can't put my finger on it, but I love it.
Edit: I think it's Karn Evil 9 2nd Impression, lol.
funny, that track totally grew on me, for similar reasons. nostalgia won over!
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This is exactly the placebo audiophile bullshit you need to shut up about.
Thou who cannot hold a conversation without flaming, where's my scientific claim? I've gone through the hydrogenaudio tests ages ago and they prove nothing at all. Using a soundblaster? Give me a break. I've been working in 24/96 for years and the difference time and time again is night and day. As soon as you sample down the crispness of the transients are lost to my ears, especially in glitch music. Anyway, a nice weekend to you too.
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(96khz 24bit) or just get the plain cd version & shut the fuck up with those placebo audiophile bullshit.
i personally usually find it pretty easy to hear the difference between 44.1 and anything above 44.1 (48/96). there's a sheen and warmth that's just not present at 44.1. (Of course that could have something to do with the conversion process too..) but as for 24 bit, for his music, i highly doubt it makes any perceivable difference.
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the fact still remains that CDs are mastered a certain way that causes digital clipping of the original waveforms.
i think you're talking about limiters that boost the signal and cut it above a certain threshold. cds don't have to be mastered this way. anyway a good chunk of vinyl is mastered digitally as well, they have been pretty much for decades (unless you can afford to get your stuff pressed by abbey road, afaik they are the only studio in the world able to do analogue straight from start to finish). What i think you're getting at is just the subjectively pleasant sound of vinyl. btw, there are mastering engineers who don't use limiting..
Anyway as far as vinyl degrading, i have to say bollocks to that as well. have had a good chunk of my records for 10+ years now, and i do clean them often, usually brush them before every play. can't say i've noticed any perceivable change in their quality. most of them still hardly have a pop or click.
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Vinyl, in both the manufacturing process and playing, produces lots of distortions. However, these can be subjectively perceived as pleasureable, often described with the meaningless terms 'warmth' and 'punch'.
That's what I was getting at in my last post about Are Y are we?. Some of the older autechre music really sounds great on vinyl because it takes advantage of these particularities of the medium. Now that I think about it, so does some of quaristice. (And the bigger cover art is a huge plus!)
Personally, I prefer, given the choice, to download the music and buy the vinyl and skip the CD. CDs are generally worthless, vinyl is collectible--I have hundreds of CDs that I couldn't even give away, if I had them on vinyl, they would retain their value (not that I plan on selling them anyway)
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i highly recommend you get a record player, you're not just missing out on bonus tracks you're missing out on an extremely pleasurable & very tactile form of music listening that is in my strong opinion far more satisfying than listening to a CD or an mp3
What got me started was that a sizeable portion of the autechre discography.. if you count gescom.. was only on vinyl at one point (that and other oddities on the warp site).
Also it does seem to me that, although vinyl comes from a digital master, you can still write music for the sound of vinyl. I couldn't imagine listening to We R Are Why on CD.. just wouldn't be the same
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i think my favorite autechre album changes too much.. i like them all and tend to rediscover them from time to time when i go through a phase of listening to them again. this week i pulled out tri repetae and untilted and listened to them both for the first time in a while, heard them both differently all over again.. great albums
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i get a nice, sort of serene evening vibe from Pt2ph8. like a desert-scape at dusk mood, with native american undertones. i like the relaxed tempo. haven't seen this track really talked about yet
Me too actually, probably my favorite of the ambient tracks on the album.
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i like this album, but i'm going through a phase right now where my ears are kind of tired and bored of technical complexity. actually there is still some pretty sweet production in some of these tracks, it's just subdued (like a lot of subtle shaping of the sounds and clusters), not in your face.
i still think by far the best work i've heard from them in the past 5 years has been their live shows though..
-edit- gamelon music is awesome
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Though, supposedly Autechre used DX100s which are very similar architecture-wise, in fact their patches might be cross-compatible.
Yeah, they're very similar. A DX7 has 6 operators, a DX100 has 4. (A soundblaster only has 2). Having used both, personally I kind of like the DX100, it's faster to program and much cheaper because everyone always goes for the famous dx7..
As far as FM synthesis goes, you can build an fm synth in pretty much any modular software. I guess I'm just biased against the FM synth bell (on O=0) because it's a basic FM preset that I heard way too much of in my childhood.. lol. taste i guess
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nah, it's all in good fun.
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This is about as melodic as throwing a bunch of bouncy balls on a keyboard, just taping down some of the notes so it all stays in key.
I should do that next time I play a live set. Tape down all the black notes and start and end with a D. Behold, instant dorian! The scale of choice for every budding IDM artist
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agreed, none of those albums sound easy to make. i can't imagine the work that went into untilted, so much material in part of their career, especially when you hear the live stuff. also as a musician i find it kind of a strange question.. i mean it takes a lifetime to develop your skills, so how long it takes you to make something is no real indication of how -difficult- it is to make. it's more relative to your skills and the amount of practice you have put into your art/technique