foresense Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 What do you think of this new loudness measuring standard EBU is trying to push through? It's called EBU R128 and it was conceived to put an end to the horrible loudness wars that have been battled over for so long already.. So many casualties to so many useless eXtreme Mastering plugz. Anyway, it all sounds pretty positive but I tried mixing some stuff with it, and it's very soft in comparison to what I'm used to. I wouldn't mind seeing this pushed through, but right now I wouldn't want to buy an album mastered like this. Would you use it? Have you used it? I got this one plugin from ToneBoosters and it's a free demo (their plugin demos have parameter saving turned off - which that particular plugin doesn't have, so yeah it's basically a freebie). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 i think it's a bunch of acronyms and numbers, what's the point here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 They want to push through a change from peak normalisation to loadness normalisation, sort of like in ReplayGain. here you can read this: http://tech.ebu.ch/docs/techreview/trev_2010-Q3_loudness_Camerer.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 there you fuckin' have it, folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 No no examples, as I am also too lazy to post any, but it is a lot softer then what I'm used to, I can tell you that. ye basically the whole paper is a big amen to push this thing through, one big sales pitch. but on the other hand, it's a nice idea to not have to worry about how loud your tunes are compared to other tracks - if this shit gets pushed through it's all about the quality of the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 i take this recommendation very seriously, thank you for bringing it across my desk. i will have linda send out a memo in triplicate~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 *canned laughter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 *canned laughter @-23LUFS fix'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I have no fucking clue what any of this means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 *canned laughter @-23LUFS fix'd lol fuck no I would brickwall that shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I'm inebriated as shit but I got the picture from the get go. Wake up nerd noobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I can definitely see how new mastering level standard is beneficial but how smooth of a transition could this be from the current brickwall limiting norm. How could new music on mp3s, youtube, flash drives everywhere swiftly shift to suddenly becoming <> 11 DB less abrasively loud? I see the purpose and I can imagine the application but I don't see how this is realistic in big picture. Definitely will read up on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 if this shit gets pushed through it's all about the quality of the music. and that's what dooms it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ryancolecreate Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 hah Sounds like a great idea. Now convince all the shitbags in pop music to do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest hahathhat Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 ELECTRIC CARS ARE SO MUCH BETTER; WE SHOULD COMPLETELY STOP USING THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE TOMORROW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lube Saibot Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 ELECTRIC CARS ARE SO MUCH BETTER; WE SHOULD COMPLETELY STOP USING THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE TOMORROW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 There's definetly practical application for this. Because it's not about the perceived loudness anymore, everything you hear on tv or radio would be at a balanced level. It's like after years of writing in bigger and bigger and more bold fonts, cramming more and more pixels in a fixed digital height, you all of a sudden have a huge space between the lines which you can't cram like you're used to if you are using the meters. You can finally use the thin and lower case fonts again, and capitalized shit will sound Capitalized. Dunno how this would work with loud as fuck music though hehe. There's this tool with which you can measure the LUFS over a couple of files or over a whole album and it tells you how much you need to shift it down (it's always down), probably gonna try it out on some albums see what happens. If you're familiar with ReplayGain - it's exactly that, only more refined and aplicaple for creating. And this doesn't mean everything will sound beautiful and dynamic all of a sudden, if people want to use the headroom it's there, the practical side that might win radio and tv stations over is more a thing of: people don't have to fiddle with the volume control anymore because everything sounds level (they'd probably bump the commercials a bit, etc etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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