YangYing

70 pages guys.

totally agreed. Yes. There is no "Olson", no "Over the Horizon Radar" and no "Tears From the Compound Eye" in Tomorrow's Harvest. I really like the album, but I agree on that it's missing this comforting sound.

and New Seeds, and Palace Posy, and Sick Times, and Sundown, and Semena Mertvykh, and

Ookpikk is awesome.

certainly not me, I went in wanting (hoping) to love it. I can be as cynical and grumpy as the worst of us, but I think I come round to giving things their due. I was pretty damn positive about Exai. And, after a period of adjustment, I loved Campfire Headphase. Not sure if I'll end up the same with TH. I've been playing the heck out of it already, though, and my opinion hasn't changed, so I kind of doubt it. I will admit to one thing, I do like to try to intuit things about artists through their work. I like to imagine I can hear their mental state, their level of creativity, how inspired they are. Sometimes I may be wrong. If "BoC-ness" were a substance, I just feel like these tracks don't have a lot of it. BoCness being some sort of otherworldly essence, otherwordly melodies, unexpected musical flourishes that seem to come from a deep well of inspiration. Something that moves me (even in a disturbingly autistic way). The TH tracks are well polished, solid from a workmanlike perspective, but they seem to be missing much of that BoCness. They seem to be playing it safe. Actually, after reading that interview, I think they are probably trying their hardest, but just coming up short. I mean, I just listened to "Music is Math" again. There are things I've never really liked about that track - I think the drums are mixed a bit too strongly, and the way it frays apart at the end isn't my favorite - but that one track is more chock full of ideas, sounds, and mysteries than the entire first half of TH. Really, just re-listen to it. The melody is certainly more developed that almost anything on TH. I guess my crits of the album fall under: 1) several tracks too short, aren't given time to develop; 2) sounds too clean and digital; 3) not many good melodies; 4) some BoC by numbers (Cold Earth); 5) too many arpeggios (seems like every other track, almost); 6) not much element of surprise (I think the only track that really surprised all of us was Palace Posy, right?); 7) despite the theme, lacking that unique BoC sense of "damaged music" or "melodies from damaged minds." 8) trying too hard to be epic. I do really like the stretch of Sick Times-Collapse-Palace Posy. And, if I'm feeling generous, could extend that run through Split-Your-Infinities-Uritual-Nothing Is Real. I don't think those are at quite the same level - Split Your Infinities sounds a bit too much like Shpongle, and Nothing is Real doesn't quite hit the spot somehow, despite the lovely Trails-like repeating melody (maybe drums are too strong, or maybe it's just too long, would work better as an interstitial track...vox are certainly interesting though). I realize I'm being picky but that's the high standard they've set themselves to. On an emotional level, nothing on the album makes me want to exclaim "that's like a window onto my childhood!" or "that's really disturbing!", or "that makes me want to cry" or even "that's a siiiick jam!" It's all a bit safe and samey. Those are some really good criticisms, and I actually agree with you on a lot of them. Still though, the amount of work and polish put into the album really shines through to me. The melodies aren't typical BoC, but they're not trying to be, and it has far too many great moments. I think this is BoC, in a lot of ways, at their most realized and solid state. What's going on here is very clear and it's obvious that BoC knew what they were doing with it, and it's so well done, imo. Not trying to "convert" you into liking it or anything, just putting in my 2 cents. It's a new album, BoC are showing off yet another facet of their sound. And I fucking love it.

Funny. I downloaded straight from Bleep. All up to Sick Times have the genre tag "Other", from Sick Times up there is no genre tag (including Sick Times).

I like how the genre in all the tracks states "Other" edit: from Sick Times on there is no genre tag? curious...

Just woke up. Downloads available. Downloading. I'm going to listen the shit out of this album today, wait no. This week.

I guess I'll have to wait until Monday. Monday will be a good day.

It is a somewhat less "coherent" album I'll say. That is compared to MHTRTC and their earlier albums. The tracks don't flow into each other and the overall feel is a bit chaotic, imho. Not saying people can't like it. I just think it would be easier for me to get into BoC via MHTRTC or TCH than TH. Sorry, but I can't relate to that at all. The only place where the flow is disrupted is at the start of that palace track. Everything else is one piece of flowing trippyness. The irony is that upon first listen the tracks sounded a bit sparse to me. ( had that feeling back in 98 as well, btw) Especially at the start of the tracks, where the melodies start off almost like simple one finger on the piano melodies. To a certain extent TH came off as surprisingly minimal. Yes, I heard some stuff happening in the background, but apparently I'm one of those people who need to read that interview to become aware of the "subliminal"/palindromic stuff. But this album doesn't overwhelm me one bit with too much detail, or chaos. Maybe it's because I have only heard it once (in the stream). I only have memories of the whole thing. Anyways, opinions opinions, it's a great album. Maybe my perception on it will change after have listened to it some 20 times or something.

It is a somewhat less "coherent" album I'll say. That is compared to MHTRTC and their earlier albums. The tracks don't flow into each other and the overall feel is a bit chaotic, imho. Not saying people can't like it. I just think it would be easier for me to get into BoC via MHTRTC or TCH than TH.

agreed.

1st one was played live @ ATP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTXDxmp2BYI 2nd is "I Love U" from A few old tunes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJXY0CPnI-g wouldn't let me edit: in the Nissan ad the 2nd song is 5.9.78 of A few old tunes. also, fuck youtube embedding.

1st one was played live @ ATP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTXDxmp2BYI 2nd is "I Love U" from A few old tunes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJXY0CPnI-g

Despatched

lol

So you're one day ahead of schedule, maybe we'll get our downloads Monday in the US (along with most of Europe). Seems to me they're trying to avoid server crashes not only by limiting the formats to smaller files but also staggering their own downloads throughout the world. Since Japan got their physical formats already and downloads were available on iTunes, were the downloads also available on Bleep for them? I think it is Australia only, no downloads here (I live in Sweden).

I'm not hearing any stream rips/leaks till the mp3's from bleep (which I paid for), come out. I want to do this whole thing legally, really disappointed that bleep have not yet released the audio files.

saw that on BoC pages this morning, on their FB comments - Bohemian Groove connections were brought up immediately, personally I just liked this reference: "When philosophy paints its gloomy picture then a form of life has grown old. It cannot be rejuvenated by the gloomy picture, but only understood. Only when the dusk starts to fall does the owl of Minerva spread its wings and fly." I posted the Owl of Minerva thing two pages ago. I'm guessing it could lead to some kind of code for the cosecha-transmisiones site, time will tell. It's definitely not a coincidence (and if it is, it's a pretty cool one).

I liked trance, got into mu-Ziq via some Trance videos on the youtubes. I don't really enjoy it that much now days although I don't really dislike it. Here's some: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhvXkDxsfmA

It was I who solved that.

Is an anagram for "Owl of Minerva" I like owls.

*cries*

flol

https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/tomorrows-harvest/id642650309?l=en previews up on iTunes edit: released in Japanese iTunes store