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    Autechre. Live. Twentytwentytwo.

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    11 minutes ago, xox said:

    Did ppl flash a lot?! That’s very rude if yes

    nah, it happened around 5 times maybe.

    Some cretin was smoking a joint towards the end and a couple of stewards were walking up and down the stairs trying to figure out where it was coming from.

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    Autechre. Live. Twentytwentytwo.

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    9 minutes ago, kiya said:

    Three times during the set in Athens there was an extremely loud feedback sound that was exactly as if a guitar player got too close to their speaker stack and all three times the sound felt and sounded very uncontrolled, if that makes sense.  

    It 100% sounded like an accidental feedback freakout. 

    Yep, *that* feedback. However, I reckon it was deliberate. Like a "fuck you and your flash photography"

    Twitch AMA

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    1 minute ago, Boxus said:

    cool to hear about recordings of an oil tank being used on tankakern (and I think he said they were on tangle ill and the skeng remix?)

    yeah and the drums on under BOAC were a pen on a radiator, the heck

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    Twitch AMA

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    1 minute ago, th555 said:

    Wish I could watch it but there's too many fucking ads.

    Really? No ads here with Firefox' ublock origin extension.

    On an android phone, I've got DNS66 (which doesn't require rooting)

    Twitch AMA

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    Just now, hello spiral said:

    I asked him about that, I was just in chatmm saying "I hope IOS heard that"

    I love you too, you made my year. I'm not logged in but I'm listening

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    Twitch AMA

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    omg, did he say 'astounding' for our replica, and that he's humbled?

    I love you Sean and Rob

    It's the least I could have done, and I'm sure digit will agree

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    video game music thread

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    Agreed about the notation approach. The easiest way would be to write:

            150bpm                                                             180bpm                                                         

    6/4 ||: /.../.../.../.../.../... | /.../.../.../.../.../... | /.../.../.../.../.../... :||

    aka fix the time signature, modify the tempo (and not the other way around, which is what I did earlier). I guess there are times when it's more efficient the other way around

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    video game music thread

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    heck, pressed the wrong keys and submitted an empty reply. Here's my reply:

    If you had just the 6 16th notes over a space of 5 16ths then: the time signature would be 5/16, and the 6 equal note durations placed within it would form a tuplet; if you wanted to call it a sextuplet, I guess that should be fine, but I think a more appropriate thing to do would be to put a "6:5" ratio indication in the notation.

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    video game music thread

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    17 hours ago, brian trageskin said:

    yep, sounds about right. 4/4 + santa/16 = depp won. suck on that, amber  :trollface:

    on a more serious note, thanks for this very clear explanation. if i were to notate this though, i wouldn't go through the trouble of indicating the time exact time sig like you did, i would simply indicate a tempo change starting on the 5 of bar 3 and specify that a 16th note = 6:5 or some shit lol (no idea how to notate this properly). so plain old 6/4 with a tempo change. anyway i know you only did this exercise cause i was asking about time sigs, i'm sure you too would choose my option over this one lol.

     

    not that i've ever notated anything anyway, i wouldn't know how. as you can see, i don't even really know how time sigs work. quite cringe from someone who's interested in music theory but in my defense, i never planned to learn "rhythm theory". initially, i was only interested in learning harmony. but as time goes by, i'm getting more and more frustrated to be so ignorant as to how time sigs work, since rhythm dictates everything in music. but i digress.

    you haven't answered my other questions though, let me refresh your memory: 

    the snare rush would be a bunch of sextuplets in 5/16, correct? or is there a subtlety i don't get about tuplets? 

     

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    video game music thread

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    On 6/1/2022 at 2:25 AM, brian trageskin said:

    @IOS  assuming i am right about that tuplet stuff, it's pretty obvious how that last segment works - i mean, i have no idea how to analyze it in terms of time signature and shit but the "mechanics" of it is pretty simple:

    when we get to the 5th beat of the last bar (the 5th quarter note i guess), we hear these tuplets - as i mentioned earlier, 6 of them (sextuplets i guess?) fit into the space of 5 16th notes (this way of putting it seems more accurate than what i previously said though).

    whatever the time signature is at this point (5/16 maybe? idk, i suck at this), we're not in 6/4 anymore. and the pulse is now set to the tuplet grid, instead of the former subdvisions - hence the weird timing when we get back to the 1st bar. had the snare rush consisted of 10 hits instead of 8, it would be a different story, as the pulse would still follow the former grid with its 16th note subdivisions. 

    all this to say: time sig pls

    Let's go through this step by step.

    There are three bars in that piece, repeating several times.

    The first two bars are 6/4 - hands down.

    The third bar, whilst it could also be considered 6/4, actually concludes with an 8x 16th note snare rush that is slightly faster than the previously heard tempo; so the snare rush doesn't occupy the space of 8 16ths (aka 2/4) but something less than that. So the last bar can be thought of as: 4/4 + [some duration we haven't calculated yet, which is slightly less than 2/4].

    So far we have:

    [ 6/4 ] [ 6/4 ] [ 4/4 + x ]

    Let's focus on the ending. As you very correctly pointed out, there are 6 sixteenths that fit within 5 sixteenths of the original tempo - a 6:5 ratio. This also means that, one sixteenth note in that snare rush occupies 5 / 6 = 0.8333333 of a sixteenth in the original tempo. (I know it's a bit weird calling them both 16ths. Think of it as follows: you have a clock/watch which for some reason ticks a bit faster than a normal clock. If we use the 0.83333 ratio of our example, we could say that each 'second' in your watch lasts 0.83 seconds of your normal watch.)

    Now the question is, how many 16ths does the snare rush occupy? The answer is: 8 (slightly sped up sixteenths in the snare rush) * 0.833333 = 6.6666666 sixteenths (in the original tempo of 150bpm)

    So the final time signature, assuming a constant tempo of 150bpm (if I remember correctly), is:

    [ 6/4 ] [ 6/4 ] [ 4/4 + SATAN/16 ]

    Hoping this helps

     

    video game music thread

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    1 hour ago, brian trageskin said:

    i meant "faster" actually, not "accelerating". the segment with the snare rush is at a faster tempo than the rest of the bar, which explains why the 3rd bar is slightly shorter than the other 2. i'm 300% sure of this. 

    i don't know how to sync a click track to the tempo of an audio file so i just used my ears, but that tempo change is pretty easy to detect at normal speed, and it's even more obvious when you slow the audio down. can't you hear it? 

    you're right, the snare rush is faster ?

    Right up until the snare rush it aligns perfectly fine at 150bpm

    image.thumb.png.c0e7539cbda84303e2ca9cfda1ebf98f.png

    Zooming in on the snare rush, we see it doesn't align 'properly' with the 16th note grid.

    image.png.44d5d364700fae09e8466385ebf36838.png

    Here's the snare rush time-stretched to better match the 16th note grid - it requires a 0.83x time stretch to achieve this:

    image.thumb.png.ba15651489a2badc6c593205698ef9ad.png

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    video game music thread

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    17 minutes ago, brian trageskin said:

    thanks for this! 

    so if i understand you correctly, your explanation is that the tempo is slightly accelerated during the snare rush, nothing to do with odd-numbered tuplets or anything, correct? this is my current explanation btw. 

    yep, ideally it's straightforward 16th notes (no odd-numbered tuplets), but it sounds odd and somewhat accelerating because the loop cuts a bit short at the end. I don't think the snare rush itself was played gradually faster. We probably perceive it as accelerating due to the whooshing sound on top as well.

    I'm guessing what happened was, they composed several bars of the theme, but in the end they chose only those 3 bars, so they looped them over and over and bounced that as the final piece; but they chose a slightly shorter segment to loop, and that made it sound jumpy.

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