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    Just check the short samples from Amazon and compare. Simple

    Where on Amazon are you finding these samples?

     

    Maybe it wasn't Amazon, can't remember but somebody posted a link to where you could listen to a 30 secs worth of each track. Was posted about a week ago. I listened to them I just can't remember how It sounded

  2. 1) time...put it in a drawer, pull it out in a week or two

    2) mix it down, listen to it in a car (or on a friend's system) in the context of other music

    The Cars the best place for checking mixes I reckon. Confined space so little reverb and you've got the vibrations of the song travelling through the chassis of the car. On top of that you can kinda get more a feel for the song as you're distracted by driving and thus not listening so intently.

  3. creating melodies and arrangements with simple midi default sounds instead of synths really helped me to spot errors in my arrangements as it only sounds nice if the arrangement is working and I can't cheat myself out of a bad arrangement with lush synthesis

    Second this. If you've written a great song just through using the default midi sounds you're usually onto a winner I reckon. Using synths and fx can very much dictate what melody you write and sometimes this can be a negative or a positive.

  4. I think Rushup Edge and Confederation Trough were definitely a precursor to Syro, a trying out of ideas and flexing out those live analogue hardware muscles. The same way Hangable Auto Bulb was to Richard D James album. The problem is where hangable auto bulb lacked some emotion, The RDJ album made up for it, not sure this is the case for The Tuss and Syro. To me It seems this time round, the one that came before ended up being the better one.

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    The problem I have with SYRO is some of the Instrumentation. It's obvious that he's tried to keep to a certain aesthetic but his penchant for harsh, odd sounds urks me on this record when it never has before. 4 Bit is such an awesome song but the snare really bothers me, I desperately want it to be a nice crisp clap. The swing on the drums in produk is too sluggish and bulky. 180db has the making of potentially being a good track but that bass drum sound is just awful, a track like that with it's simplicity and repetitiveness needs to rely on exquisite mixing I think to hold it up, which It does not have.

     

    There are loads of other small things that bother me throughout the record, which I don't get with any of his other stuff at all. There are some amazing moments though, 4 bit, xmas eve and s950!

     

    Also I've brought this up before but was shot down pretty quickly, I'm adamant the metz video is a different mix to the xmas eve on syro. Go back and listen to it, there's very subtle differences and theres some hi hats that run throughout that bridge part that aren't in the syro version. Sounds to me like a superior mix but hes gone with a more rustic version to keep with the aesthetic on syro.

    gotta come clean and admit some details on thsi album still sound bitter to my ears, specially that bitcrushed tail on the snare of 4bit liek you mentioned and most of the noise that substitutes some of the OH, HH, CY and shakers on tracks liek syro u473t8...

    i really love the sluggish swing on produkt29 though and have nothing to point at xmas evet, still, gotta listen to that version you mentioned... just did, you're completely right, those hi hats!!!

     

    btw my favorite songs are xmas, produk, papat and s950... the end section of s950 is one of my favorite parts of the album!

     

    Yeah those hi hats really add a nice little touch to xmas eve, wish they were on the syro version. Also another thing that bothers me on syro is his trademark style of cutting samples short. Happens a lot on drukqs but sounds really cool, on syro though it bothers me slightly. All in all I enjoy everything he's done I just think Rushup Edge is far superior to syro and I compare the two because I think he was coming from a similar place when he was making syro.

  6. The problem I have with SYRO is some of the Instrumentation. It's obvious that he's tried to keep to a certain aesthetic but his penchant for harsh, odd sounds urks me on this record when it never has before. 4 Bit is such an awesome song but the snare really bothers me, I desperately want it to be a nice crisp clap. The swing on the drums in produk is too sluggish and bulky. 180db has the making of potentially being a good track but that bass drum sound is just awful, a track like that with it's simplicity and repetitiveness needs to rely on exquisite mixing I think to hold it up, which It does not have.

     

    There are loads of other small things that bother me throughout the record, which I don't get with any of his other stuff at all. There are some amazing moments though, 4 bit, xmas eve and s950!

     

    Also I've brought this up before but was shot down pretty quickly, I'm adamant the metz video is a different mix to the xmas eve on syro. Go back and listen to it, there's very subtle differences and theres some hi hats that run throughout that bridge part that aren't in the syro version. Sounds to me like a superior mix but hes gone with a more rustic version to keep with the aesthetic on syro.

     

    I don't wanna crucify it too much though as It will probably end up being a classic in a few years time but drukqs and Rushup Edge are still Numero Uno

  7. are his melodies really that complicated? he has a good ear for simplicity in my opinion but im no music phd

    Yeah most of his tunes are relatively easy to convert into midi however mt saint michel seems a little more elusive; down to all the factors stated so far on this page of the thread. I was just hoping to see if someone could pull of a half decent transcription of it, the main acid line that is.

     

    I've tried myself and failed, but have been much more successful with his other stuff. I managed to get the jist of the funky bassline in xmas eve down.

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    I think the notes sit around B and A# but I may be wrong

     

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    My Melodyne analysis sure does support that, but it would take someone with a much better ear than me to work it out.

     

    Yeah I used Melodyne to try and make a midi out of it, but it just wasn't coming out right. It's weird, it seems like all the instrumentation kind of sits in this area of B and A#, I remember when I loaded it into melodyne being quite confused by how it looked. It seems like hes kind of compressed everything into this narrow band of frequencies until later in the song where it starts to expand out. Either that or I just used the wrong melodyne analysis thing but still quite cool if he did manage to pitch everything into that note range

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    Still waiting on someone to midi the acid line in mt saint michel. Anyone?

    which one exactly? did the first couple of bars for msm the other day, but didnt't continue because i think that except for the middle part it just wouldn't sound good on piano.

    but if you have some specific request and I don't have to make it playable on piano i could do it for you. :)

     

    That would be cool if you could, It's the one that starts at 0.10 seconds in, Goes dun dun dun da dun dun dun da do do doo

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