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  1. I wouldn't be able to rank from confield onwards, i.e. since, as I see it, they achieved that thing which is Autechre and nothing else... I can instead scale the previous things, and, generally, my liking follows the chronological progression (except for 3repetae which, although according to them, is the starting point for an approach free from other influences - they talked about it in an interview -, I find it discontinuous, and on some occasions it doesn't catch me ). What continues to surprise me is the fact that, instead, the approval goes in reverse: you would expect this in a generic electronics forum, but in the Autechre forum it is unexpected to see how the aspects of when Autechre were less Autechre prevail

    I haven't written the word Autechre enough. Autechre.

  2. Anxiety is something I hear very often associated with Ae. Probably because the construction never rests on something stable or defined, and one gets the impression of being constantly in the imminence of something that must happen but that is never resolved. Someone once told me "this music you hear is always on the verge of starting but then never starts". Yet for me that not stabilizing was already the point of arrival, not the starting. Twentytwentytwo takes this aspect to extreme, in some parts the more I concentrate the more I get disoriented, but if I feel anxiety, it's associated with a sense of surprise and discovery, the anxiety that is experienced in the moments in which a change is faced..
    ...i've gone a bit too far as well, but if we don't do it here, where else? 

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  3.  

    1 hour ago, toaoaoad said:

    These are real tho. They are unreleased and have no title. :shrug:
     

     

    WTF!!!!!
    i'm the only geek who checks the autechre forum everyday and doesn't know when autechre stuff comes out

    That's why the two tracks nailed the vibe :cisfor:

    Up until a moment ago, for me, mastodon was a sludge band, not a social media... 

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  4. On 11/26/2022 at 11:20 PM, Cyteen said:

    Some more that might be enjoyed by peeps in here i didn't see mentioned:

    C-mantle' Anatomically Correct: https://acrerecordings.bandcamp.com/album/anatomically-correct

    I love this one a lot. Very intense and catchy listen after listen from 2021, and sadly slept on

    Kaer Uiks' Six Circuits compilation: https://kaer-uiks.bandcamp.com/album/six-circuits

    Most of this label's releases are heavily influenced by autechre, so its no surprise the six-year anniversary compilation leans in that direction. At an hour long, its a consistent blast-- Qebo, sleep clinnic, hexalyne, william fields et al constribute. From 2019 their Applied Socciolingustics comp is also one of my all-time favorite beasts. That one has been mentioned here and is 4 and a half hours long, but it was a pleasure getting to know the tracks. Good stuff.

    Schematic's Lily of the Valley Comp is worth mentioning, classic stuff imo (as well as their 'Well-suited for general-purpose audio work' and 'schematic folks' comps):  https://schematicmusiccompany.bandcamp.com/album/lily-of-the-valley

    And this one isn't out til 12/2, but im looking forward to it. Printiig's Interhymns: https://printiigmusic.bandcamp.com/album/interhymns

    I believe tsrono put one out on pointsource too, as did Hexalyne, both great. Printiig's got an intensity to his tracks that im really fond of, spastic and fierce beats. Id check the preview songs before release or his other releases from this year on other labels. Love this one: 

    https://thecollectionartaud.bandcamp.com/album/tca-54-contact

    And lastly Dfaniks' Save the robots: https://dfaniks1.bandcamp.com/album/save-the-robots

    it's like autechre and richard devine had a baby. 

     

    thanks for this post, I'm listening to the various links a little at a time: printiig is truly a discovery :music:?

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  5. 11 hours ago, dr b0rk said:

    u have mentioned before that this festival would be not so good and I have to wholeheartedly agree. Glad you had a good time in Milano, I was there too, and hope that you find relief in that you haven’t missed anything at all by not attending c2c.

    the Milano variant of the current set had significantly more balls and the beautiful garden gave it pretty great acoustics, unlike the overly big Convention Center (shopping mall?) hall c2c was using in Turin. Bass response was very muddy and uneven, that super low thick hiphop stuff in the second half of the set could not deliver at all due to this. Highs were ok (line array) but due to the out of control room acoustics everything sounded too far away and a bit undifferentiated.

    The current set, like the ones in the last decade+ , have these same building blocks which can at times make certain twists in this or that direction, and sometimes the ensuing chaos checks out and falls into a pretty good macro groove, for example some semi-random drum bit occurring just at the right moment, and sometimes it’s a bit hit and miss, a hole in the sound where something interesting could happen. The Milano set had a much more pleasing hit/miss ratio compared to c2c, and also compared to Helsinki. Just some baller little drum fills, and very distinctly, the beautiful bit in the middle of the set with these falling bomb-drop-like sweeps, was not present in Turin.  

    To sum up c2c itself, to get a drink you had to top up your wristband with prepaid money. My friend wanted exactly one small beer (7eur) so he topped up the minimum amount of 10eur, of which 2 were deducted as a fee. The remaining 8eur were then not enough to buy the beer, because you’d also have to deposit 2eur for the plastic cup. So he had to top up another 10eur. 11eur of his money remains in some c2c bank account at this point, and we will see whether it finds its way back out of there. This is in my opinion clearly a borderline rip off deal, counting on people being too lazy / forgetting to go to their website after the festival and filling out the Google Forms thing to reclaim your small money.


    after the ae, we were seeking to enjoy the place but it was not possible. The bands / DJs after ae were not good, and we could not imagine sticking around in there until later in the night where some potentially worthy acts would play, due to there not being anything to do other than stand around or walk between the two halls, and our mood dropped significantly while trying to figure out how to get our prepaid drink deposit moneys back while some mediocre techno band was making any conversation with your mates or the bar clerk near impossible.

    Turin is an interesting city tho, we had a grand time walking around for two days just looking at things and eating.

    TLDR: avoid c2c

     

    reading this a little consoles me, even if ... well, I would have missed even if the situation had been excellent, but you would have had a very different kind of experience: i'm sorry that things sucks so hard
    ...Yes, another thing about c2c is the austere place, and the whole mess to drink or find a corner to relax for a minute: no way.
    And yesss, Milan was a memorable trip.
    As for Turin: it's fascinating city, it is dark (i mean, legend want it as the "esoteric capital" of europe) and overflows with history. There is an almost cinematic sense in its streets poised between the decadent and the prestigious, and the interiors of the buildings (mostly seventeenth-century) are still in a vanished time.
    Forgiving the councilor for tourism digression, I read "Turin" and ineffable nostalgia rises

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  6. 8 hours ago, Nil said:

    Aren't all festivals / concerts like that ? No matter who's playing, the music is - alas - a sonic tapestry to most in such context.

    btw, Lyon gig pls.

    yep, my sortie was a bit generic and inaccurate. Electronic events (like any event) are inherently social. In the case of club2club there are several variables that make it different from what, for example, could be sacrum profanum. Partly due to the choice of artists, which is generally oriented to a dance context, as a sort of augmented disco (legitimately, since it is called club to club), partly to the environmental and cultural context. In writing "social" I wanted to translate the word "mondano", that in Italian has a meaning relating to a moment of collective fun for an average, non-specific target. Although my polemical tone, in reality I have nothing against club2club (it is simply what it wants and has a right to be, and indeed constitutes an exception, considering that such things in Italy are very rare), but it is not the right place for ae, which, on the contrary, are very specific in what they do. And it is not so both for autechre and for audience, which, the latter, finds itself listening to something it does not know, and that requires a lot of attention even for those who know it well

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  7. On 11/5/2022 at 1:02 AM, siisx said:

     

     First thing I noticed was that it was not enough dark. Lights of the emergency exits were not turned off and I guess some light was coming from the entrance. I don't know exactly. I imagine it's also harder to get full darkness in a big room

    Oh, and I saw quite a lot of guys playing with their phone's light and even some genius with a red blinking light (the kind we use for bikes). Well, that made me realise again why I rather stay at home.

    The sound was not too loud. 

    all club2club stuff. It is not propely an electronic festival, but more a social event, 90% of the audience does not know what autechre is, and when the light goes out they think there is a problem with the lighting system, and after a while they even start to protest

    ...that's why, this time, they play at 8:30 and not at 4am like in 2016 I suppose

  8. 31 minutes ago, danshoebridge said:

    The volume would have worked in a club I reckon. For a venue with everyone sitting down though... not so much. Listening to the recording there's lots of stuff going on but I couldn't get any of it on the night. Just the beats and low end. It got a bit monotonous after a while. 

    this set is sneaky, full of stuff but never explicit, it never winks and asks for a lot: without massive molecular help it can be really hermetic on the first run

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  9. 1 hour ago, commercial said:

    At The Barbican it was Chris Fullard, no idea if he was touring with them - he does a lot of *heavy* stuff - recently Sunn O))) for quite a few years

     

    ...ah!, if that's the guy who took care of sunnO))) then it doesn't surprise me that the Barbican system has exploded ..saw sunn0) twice , and both times, despite my deafness, I felt physical pain. I think it was the purpose: the fucking martyrdom. At terraforma the volume was not devastating (again by my standards), but still enjoyable, and everything was defined and lively (at least, considering it was outdoors).

    ...Who knows now at club2club ( :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad: ), in 2016, it was low and messy.

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  10. strange to read about excessive volume, I have always had the opposite problem, without ever finding a situation that overwhelmed me with sound: I always thought it was club politics or the fact that, beyond a certain range, sounds with ae parameters risked to clip, but now I suspect that the problem is me, and maybe I should get a hearing test

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