GORDO
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because then you are saying that his masterplan is deliberately using incompetent people.
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1. there are ways to pull that off gracefully.
2. that explanation is silly anyway.
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guy doesn't even know maddox. he won't get it.
quote on that one review sums it up ".. characters act in ways that no human being would, functioning more in service of the action than having the action result from the expression of character. If none of that matters to you, then "Prometheus" might well be a great experience for you, but when I don't recognize basic human responses, then drama doesn't work for me. It's that basic."
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sounds stupid.
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Uh Damon doesn't resurrect dead projects, he kills them and strips them of any honesty.
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dude, it's not bad. it's not Alien. not in the least.
You got that right! Not in the same league by a long shot!
It's not trying to be Alien though. It's a sci-fi flick set in the same universe. I doubt it will be as important 30 years from now as Alien still is, but I'm honestly not sure there's ANY movie released these days that will have the impact of something released before the 90's. when there was an explosion of films pouring out of Hollywood. but that's a whole other discussion.
Prometheus is much more about revelations and origins and intellectual/psychological things that happens to be drenched in blood and monsters. emotions are few and far between. there are flaws but it's not bad. just go in as open-minded as possible.It's much more about ..... what the hell is it about!? It's pure Lindelof Lost style cock teasing! Questions answered with questions & more questions. Nothing makes much sense. You have to interpret the story however you see fit. So you leave the cinema totally perplexed & wondering what the hell it was all about. There is zero satisfaction from this film beyond the breathtaking visuals. Characters are dull, weak & then dead. The story is all over the place & it can't make it's mind up if it wants to be an Alien prequel or a complete new movie. In the end it's neither. It's a friggin mess of epic proportions. Most disappointed with a film I think I've ever been! It's like Phantom Menace/Lucas syndrome all over again. Except this is worse because this is Ridley Scott with his third film in a genre he really did define with Alien & Blade Runner.
there's definitely some Lindelof cock-teasing going on. i enjoyed about 1/4 of Lost, i personally think a lot of it was shit television. there's a LOT of stuff that makes sense. there's a LOT of story that is shown in this movie. there's also a lot that wasn't revealed, which is fine by me. the (what we now know is an) Engineer in Alien was never explained, never touched on in all the sequels. huge bit of information that is left unanswered. how the hell was there a face-hugger that impregnated an animal AND Ripley in the events before Alien 3? who knows, it's one of the many mysteries left unanswered, and is most likely unanswerable. they're just horror/sci-fi flicks man...they're enjoyable, and whatever needs to happen to keep the story going happens. whatever the director or writer wants to happen will happen. Prometheus is just a fun decently done movie that is a vehicle for the story, unfortunately. the characters fell to the wayside, and there's nothing we can do. it's done, the movie is still good despite it, in my opinion.
the difference with those "mysteries" is that they're not central at all to the plot, they're just details whose solutions make no difference at all. To make the analogy more accurate then you'd have to have all the aliens movies being about some group setting to investigate the engineer, the facehugger and then completely forgetting about their mission for no reason.
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watched alien last night, seemed to me like the basic plot of both films are kinda the same? crew picks up on signal, they think is an s.o.s. they go investigate, turns out it wasn't an s.o.s. and scary monsters are out to get them.
at least that's the same thing one can inferr form the prometheus trailer.
anyway.. I'm glad Lindeloff is getting all the hate. It's funny too because in that interview he was all like, "oh no no i didn't write it I just tried to make sure Scott could have his vision done"
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That interview to me just confirmed my notion that Damon Lindelof doesn't value a good, tight, clever, well written story in which every element adds up to make the whole greater than the sum of the parts. Seems to me like he only thinks in terms of 'payoff' feelings, which i guess is valid, but is a notion I don't really value. When I think of a great book/film/tvshow/story/whatever I don't think about the story that gave me the longest streak of good 'payoffs'.
I mean, all that discussion about ambiguity and how to resolve questions only makes sense if the soution to the problem complements the story and what it was meant to do, sure, if you see it as merely as how to get the best emotional response then his points are relevant but still seems to me a bit cheap and 'cheaty' to only think in those terms.
IMO Ambiguity should be there only when the point is to make people think, not just because you think expressing your own intent will deny people the possibility of wondering about things. Seems like an easy way out to me. In the same way, the problem with explaining everything in detail is not that it strips the story of something but that if it's needed it's because you did something wrong from the start.
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the community episode of the video game was fantastic.
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im avoiding it merely because of damon lindelof's involvement.
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so is anyone watching awake? I saw the first one and thought it was meh even if the concept is kinda interesting, the second episode was so boring I didn't even finish it and haven't seen anything else since.
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latest fringe was kind of cool
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I just didn't like most of them. Meta or not, I didn't care about the stories. A couple were awesome though...
Hm, I suppose I can see what you mean. In the ones I've read so far, there aren't any really relatable or fleshed-out characters. A lot of them just seem like fictional firsthand accounts of unexplainable sort of pauses in (largely literary-based) logic, so there isn't a lot to get attached to in the first place. But to me, a lot of them almost read as enigmatic, self-contained parables, which I find pretty awesome.
most of Borges is super boring and pretentious, you can tell he's just trying to show over and over again how much of an intellectual he is. He wasn't much of a writer anyway, more of a pure erudite. A few great short stories but that's it. Now, Cortazar on the other hand...
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a lot of hint hints in the season finale, prison, michonne, helicopter ---> governor
so tell me again how the prison part with the helicopter isn't ripping from Day of the Dead
*shrugs* I haven't seen it.
but let me spoil that arc completely for you and let you judge by yourself:
they find a prison which is a nicely fortified building where they can be safe from the zombies. there are a few prisoners living there some of which are really fuckt up and kill people. One of the children turns into a psychopath and carl murders him before he does more harm. Besides from that, they're kinda starting to feel safe and hopeful. At one point they spot a helicopter crashing, so they go out to see if they can find it, instead they find a city ruled by the governor which is one of the most memorable villains ever. he cuts rick's arm off, rapes michonne with a spoon. long story short, governor finds out about the prison and sieges it, a lot of people die including lori and unborn daughter. they have to flee and abandon the prison. prison arc ends.
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from cracked:
I love The Walking Dead. I've watched every episode of the show twice, and I still get excited every time a new one pops up in my queue. But even I have to admit that the
disbelieving assholes are right: I don't watch it because it's a good show; I watch it because I really want it to be a good show. Because so far, rather than exploring what shape society will take after the zombie apocalypse, or how real, complicated human beings deal with such an awful scenario, The Walking Deadhas been more concerned with what happens when obnoxious cliches from different ethnic backgrounds have to be roommates. That's a fine premise for a show,The Walking Dead writers, but you were supposed to be making an apocalyptic drama; what you guys did was The Real World: Zombieland. The first two seasons haven't been exploring the greater themes of the undead so much as they've been turning the camera on Lori and T-Dog fighting about who left the cheese uncovered, while every once in a while a zombie wanders by in the background, peeks in the windows and decides it probably doesn't want to get involved.
lol
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a lot of hint hints in the season finale, prison, michonne, helicopter ---> governor
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yes
but the son only as a zombie.
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I don't mind her too much, I think she fulfills the "pretty thing to look at" role okay.
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I saw it more like she realized she was actually in love with Shane and shit. so no matter what circumstances Rick had just killed the man she loves and shit. Also a bit of a realization that the lil' chat she had with him was the trigger for Shane to try to get rid of rick.
edit: and shit.
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nobody answered my question yet, is the prison part done so that they can use the last remaining classic zombie trope they havent used yet? the military style compound in Day of the Dead and 28 days later?
In the comic the prison part is nothing like that, kinda the opposite in feel, optimistic. and that trope hasn't been used at all either.
what is optimistic about a child killer?
p.s glad they finally got rid of shane. should have done that in the first season like they were supposed to. fucking idiot screen writers.
it's when people start settling, most of the drama comes from relationship shit, yes, there are a couple fucked up murders, but aside from that it's when they start feeling safe, they pair up, they make plans for staying there permanently, dale (i think) even starts growing food and shit, so yeah, optimistic..
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nobody answered my question yet, is the prison part done so that they can use the last remaining classic zombie trope they havent used yet? the military style compound in Day of the Dead and 28 days later?
In the comic the prison part is nothing like that, kinda the opposite in feel, optimistic. and that trope hasn't been used at all either.
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currently reading the Lilith's Brood series by Octavia E. Butler. Absolutely fantastic. Truly great. Only on book one but man. So good.
Now i'm reading this and liking it so far, but wondering if it's going anywhere.
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currently obsessed with community, so good.
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Just started this.
ALIEN / PROMETHEUS / COVENANT - SPOILERS INBOUND!!
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yeah i know that's what you said, I even said that's what you're saying. I tried to word it in a way that makes it evident why that is silly. I failed apparently.