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  1. On 6/7/2023 at 4:52 PM, Summon Dot E X E said:

    I heard they were ushered in by Capitol Police, and then mostly proceeded to mill about taking photos. Is this not true? Have other groups barged into the halls of Congress and voiced their political beliefs while it was in session? If so, what political leanings did they have?

    I'm sure this event is being used to manipulate people, so that's why I reserve my right to refrain from judgement for now.

     

    capitol police were a bit fucked by brain poison, in places. they put some bike racks on some paths as defense against a fully anticipated militia attack.

     

    there was, strangely, hours of melee combat. it's a miracle there wasn't more gunfire. it was like an ancient battlefield, with two masses colliding across an extended front, engaged in combat. it went on for hours. there were guns in the crowd. and many cops had guns.

     

    this video piece by the NYT gives a good overview.

     

    the crowd came within eye shot of where mike pence was. if a violent crowd came in contact with his secret service detail, they would have engaged.

     

    officer goodman saved the senate from coming in contact with the crowd by leading them astray, facing them down, on his own, with his hand on his gun, as they continually approached him, forcing him to back further into the capitol. they walked right past the open door to the senate chamber with senators inside. 

     

    it's important to understand how remarkable it is that the congress reconvened later that night, including with mike pence, who refused to leave, despite the demands of his secret service. this was the whole plan, they just needed congress to go home without certifying. they needed the disruption, to get to the next day, with no certification. that's why, after being attacked, with 14 days until inauguration day, all those congress members stayed into the night to get the certification done. 

     

    over a hundred cops were hospitalized. chemical weapons were used. one cop had a heart attack while being attacked with a stun gun repeatedly. 4 cops who fought on january 6th later killed themselves. 

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  2. On 4/25/2023 at 6:36 AM, iococoi said:

    Boiling frog as we speak

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    OISST provides a real-time daily index of ocean surface temperature (60 S - 60 N). For the last month it has been continuously reading higher than in any previous year and still shows no sign of settling.

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    there's a lot we don't understand about these systems. oceans are deep and there is like a temperature buffer in the lower levels of the ocean, for example. my point: there may be more rapid changes that occur in the future than we are accustomed to thinking about, as the global systems cross tipping points. like, those ocean temperature buffers will start slowing there mediating effect at some point, one would imagine. and of course there are the other climate feedback loops that can contribute to tipping points: ice reflection, plant fire damage, permafrost methane release, etc. crossing tipping points will result in more drastic, noticeable, and dangerous climate change.

     

    it seems that we are seeing a telescoping of time scale, already. the last 20-25 years are measurably worse than prior decades, for many metrics. and, in the last 5 years, i think we're seeing more alarming climate changes. 

     

    this may be that. the system may be officially going out of whack.

  3. stuart rhodes sentenced to 18 years for seditious conspiracy and other crimes

     

     

    word is a federal indictment of trump for willful retention of national security information (the espionage act) and obstruction of justice is imminent

     

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    The space agency's Juno spacecraft has been swooping ever-closer to Jupiter's moon Io, a place teeming with volcanoes and lava. It's a truly volcanic orb. In early March, Juno passed some 32,044 miles from Io. On May 16 Juno returned, traversing just 22,060 miles from Io and capturing rich imagery.

    Over the coming year, it's only going to get closer, ultimately traveling within 930 miles, or 1,500 kilometers, from Io. 

     

     

    Io as viewed from 22,135 miles (35,623 kilometers)

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    wow i hope the lenses and focus work out and we get some real terrain shots. that's really close.

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  5. sorry, i was thinking of the For the People Act, which was an earlier version of what became the Freedom to Vote Act. the dem conference was kicking it around for a year and it got modified and repackaged a couple times. the FTVA included the FTPA and the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act.

    the FTPA had independent redistricting commissions, but the FTVA didn't. there were good things in both versions of the legislation. a number of gerrymandering-addressing provisions did make it into the bill that nearly passed. It actually got 50 votes for the bill itself, but only 48 votes to overcome the filibuster (48 out of 50, not 60 - this was a special resolution requiring 50 votes that, if passed, would allow the bill to also pass by 50 and not need 60 for cloture). this was really so close, and this disproves the narrative that participating doesn't make a difference. if people were paying attention, voting accordingly, and contacting their representatives, dems could have had the 50 votes needed to historically overstep the stupid rule that is the senate filibuster cloture loophole

    the FTVA was so important that it was worth breaking convention on that, and they moved consensus within the dem caucus about the filibuster. that this came 2 votes from passing should motivate everyone to look at their senate seats and whether any are up and competitive next year. sinema's looking likely to lose in a primary in arizona.

    the FTPA was also known as HR1. it was the first bill introduced at the beginning of the house session, because it was the most important one. it was actually a reintroduced version of their HR1 from the prior house session. it is possible that the same language could reemerge and be voted on in a future session 

     

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  6. 8 hours ago, randomsummer said:

    I guess I'm saying that I believe it will be really fucking hard to force these assholes to do something they really really don't want to do (on either side), draw fair maps.

    the bothsidesism is not supported by the facts. GOP gerrymandering is much worse, and the dems went all out trying to fix the situation with major federal legislation, and they came close.

     

    i think you would be happy if i told you everything is hopeless? unfortunately that is not the case, there is work to be done. you're correct that it won't be easy. the public servants out there need the support of voters. that includes keeping one's self informed.

  7. 13 hours ago, randomsummer said:
    On 5/7/2023 at 6:51 PM, trying to be less rude said:

    yeah man. why do you think 48 dems/independents voted for the Freedom to Vote Act in the Senate but the republicans uniformly voted against it? That would have established unbiased redistricting commissions. 

    OK, but the Rs in Ohio appeared to play nice and play along all the while introducing language that would let them ignore the will of the people by determining themselves what "fair" metrics to use for redistricting.

    i just cited legislation that establishes unbiased redistricting commissions

     

    13 hours ago, randomsummer said:

    Of course they voted for it, it's good PR, that's what the Ds' base wanted.  All I'm saying is, that I have a hard time seeing either party when, in control, striving to draw truly fair districting maps. 

    the legislation, the freedom to vote act, would establish non-biased redistricting commissions. they actually attached a provision to the bill that would allow it to bypass the filibuster! they can do that! manchin and sinema tanked it. 2 more dem senators and we could pass the Freedom to Vote Act and have neutral districts.

     

  8. 5 hours ago, randomsummer said:

    If there is a blue wave, do we trust the Ds to actually fix the gerrymandering problem in that they'll make it as fair as possible or will they "fix" it meaning they'll just gerrymander it back to slanting more blue?

    yeah man. why do you think 48 dems/independents voted for the Freedom to Vote Act in the Senate but the republicans uniformly voted against it? That would have established unbiased redistricting commissions. 

  9. 41 minutes ago, Key said:

    I wonder who Republicans would class as centre-left these days? 

    It seems that every time a Democrat is discussed they have the same prefixes:  "crazy, extreme fringe radical, far-distant-left, Mao-loving, wealth redistributing, pie-in-the-sky, 5 year plan bastard, skull crushing, baby blood drinking Democrat Joe Manchin... etc"

    Its the boy who cried Marx. They've run out of road.

    there are some "centrist" GOPs but the party seems unable to do the smart thing and get behind them. trump brings goons out of the woodwork who don't vote otherwise, so the party is in a weird position where trump is really hurting them in some ways but in other ways they see it as unwise to break with him. the republican party may be on track for a really sad showing in 2024, as no republican candidates seem capable of really criticizing him (except for christie who will mildly criticize him for almost killing him), and trump is likely to be prosecuted as the greatest traitor in american history, right in prime campaign season. 

     

    with any luck there will be a good blue wave, which is needed, such as to address the gerrymandering problem. the REDMAP project, using AI to gerrymander districts, has locked up state legislatures in swing states, such that dems get a clear majority of the popular vote but repubs get a large majority of seats. fixing gerrymandering is exceptionally difficult, this is one of the ways the country is maimed. we nearly addressed it with the Freedom To Vote Act but it failed by 2 votes in the Senate

  10. 9 hours ago, Limo said:

    Like I said, I really don’t see a way out of this for anyone. Maybe as a conflict so frozen the west can help the remainder of Ukraine rebuild and rearm to such a degree that it will be impossible for Russia to unfreeze it?

     

    russian forces in ukraine are going to get the shit kicked out of them

  11. 2 hours ago, auxien said:

    he's stating the Russian false flag attack is pretty likely (especially since it seems doubtful Putin himself was anywhere near)

     

    definitely not unlikely. the first 8 years of this war were largely hybrid info/kinetic operations. remember the little green men who invaded crimea in 2014? no insignia, russia claims it's not them, though it was. the crimean referendum was also an interesting info maneuver, in that that's not how referendums work at all. remember when russian forces and mercenaries secretly stood up and propped up the purported rebel movement in donbas, in the years that followed? remember when western intel learned of a planned russian false flag as a pretext for invading ukraine, in early february 2022? that prebunking seemed to have maybe thwarted the planned false flag. but yeah this whole war has been info ops. right up to the point of total invasion, few, not even zelensky, really knew if russia would actually invade or if lining up on the border was just more of their mind game bullshit. 

    but another possibility is that there was a drone attack, though the attribution of it to ukraine is dubious. there already seems to be an uptick in political violence in russia, in recent years. of course putin is probably not trending up in friends, as he is sending tens of thousands to pointless deaths, and the economy is eating it, and you're not allowed to call the war a war or you go to prison. imagine you're putin and someone drone attacks you. of course you're going to blame ukraine. meanwhile, anyone can drone attack putin. 

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  12. 6 hours ago, auxien said:

    Russia claims Ukraine tried to assassinate Putin. US is saying they don’t think Ukraine did that but who knows. it would be a possible quick fix to the situation, and who would miss the guy?

    i think there's no way zelensky would order that.

    the concerning thing is that you know putin wants zelensky out of the picture, and, if putin were planning to try to take zelensky out, he would first deploy propaganda exactly like this

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  13. 1 hour ago, exitonly said:

    dude, just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t meant they’re spreading disinformation or are some tool of russian propaganda or something. cognitive decline is a real thing. biden is 80. whether he is ok or not today doesn’t mean he will be in 2-3 years. that’s not something i would have to worry about from a candidate in their 50s or 60s.

     

    i'm not saying you are. just don't go by consensus. consensus is fucked. like deeply fucked.

     

    anyway he is the dem nominee as of now. and he is a great american president, in my honest opinion.

     

    us intel dumps prebunking russian disinfo maneuvers during invasion were innovative and very effective. that's an example of what good leadership looks like. it can be subtle but he is doing a lot of things right and the totality of that is helping the country return to normalcy from a state of extreme duress

  14. 45 minutes ago, usagi said:

    aw, you poor victim. you do nothing but equivocate like a professional internet arguer when pressed on your bullshit. it took me 2 seconds to go back a few pages and find the Capitol riot/"coup" comment exactly as I thought it'd been written.

    ok well i admit when i'm wrong. you're still a cunt and should stop shitting up us political discourse with your shit takes

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