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  1. maddow continues to find the real story like a bloodhound, and to bravely help society despite the environment of hostile deceit that targets people who are good at revealing bad actors. i like how she has been illuminating the dynamic of foreign powers, local traitors and corporate actors attacking the us government through covert means, with her recent work that lays out the nazi plot to overturn american government with propaganda, coopting officials, and a violent plot. 

    this is a vulnerability of self-government. the founders of USA knew it and this is the weak point that russia (and who knows who else) have been exploiting.

    the public has not yet woken up to the reality of the hostile modern info space. we may learn too late that the zombies may cause nuclear apocalypse. the fallibility of humans is something that flies under the radar - we have a blindness to our own stupidity. at this moment of peak danger, when our information is a fucking mess, even serious people don't know when they're drunk.

    the modern world is heady - and interesting. whatever bullshit fiction you're following... reality is better

    she's been doing a media tour for her new book, Prequel (an expansion on her podcast series Ultra), and she has done a good job of not just repeating herself in each interview; each one tends to discuss different details, and of course hers is generally interesting and insightful content. this one is with michael steele, who is modest but sharp as a laser, so this is a good one

     

  2. On 10/17/2023 at 3:38 PM, prdctvsm said:

    727 directives :

    1.”Serve the public trust”

    2.”Protect the innocent”

    3.”Uphold the law”

    4.”Classified”

    5.”Restrain hostile feelings”

    6.”Promote positive attitude”

    7.”Suppress aggressiveness”

    8.”Promote pro-social values”

    9.”Avoid destructive behavior”

    10.”Be accessible”

    11.”Participate in group activities”

    12.”Avoid interpersonal conflicts”

    Not included digital !!

    read the rules

  3. 19 hours ago, ignatius said:

    Just watched Oppenheimer and it's really well done. excellent script. ya kinda know all along the sub plot but i like how they roll it out. cillian murphy is great. whole cast brings it in. matt damon's character is a bit of a trope but probably how that guy was in real life. can't really criticize. 

    i was surprised to find the outer narrative was a disinfo conflict between the politician and oppenheimer. nolan juxtaposed info conflict with nuclear war and showed that the info domain has power over the nuclear domain. it's an important point. trumpists overthrowing democracy would have international consequences. with the us military in the hands of a fascist regime, it would be a matter of time before that started to get pretty dark. that dystopia could be brought about by bad info spreading. 

     

    agreed about belew

  4. they're not all corrupt. geeks like me who spent their lives learning the lay of the land, with media spins, and familiarizing with journalistic methods, are able to have a good sense of what's real. many politicians are not corrupt. it's easy to confuse people, though. running for office costs money. that's how it's easy to confuse people about anyone. "hey look! they take money! they're corrupt!"

    please, people, get past this, and try to pay closer attention. "they're all corrupt" is the message from the rightist media that panders to covering for the deeply corrupt national GOP. they're literally out there trying to make the left look corrupt so that the right won't look so bad. they want you to not pay close attention. they want you to think "it's all the same, it doesn't make a difference, they're all liars, they're all corrupt." this is the objective. and it's obviously false. you could run. canvas your town for a year and you can be elected mayor. do a good job for two years and you can run for state office. do a good job there and you can run for governor. etc. 

    please don't let fantasies pedaled by agencies and foxish news outlets snuff out free society. the deluge of bad info we're drowning in is a real threat. the best solution is for individuals to take responsibility for not being full of shit. 

    here, i'll give you a mystic secret. it's from socrates. know when you don't know. this is an elemental step toward being able to navigate in a hazardous information environment.

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  5. anyone interested in the sociological transformation that is occurring with the explosion of information technology, especially the impact on people's beliefs, should really be following the Pod Save America podcast called Offline. it's a podcast series about this frontier of society that we are still in the process of understanding. 

     

  6. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231025-if-alien-life-is-artificially-intelligent-it-may-be-stranger-than-we-can-imagine

     

    bbc just jacking my posts from here, years ago. good article though and good outline of what just seems like the obvious conclusion: matter sprouts life which sprays ai out into the galaxy. ufos would be way more likely to be billion year old alien ai with unimaginable minds, than organic. there's no reason to think we shouldn't expect this stuff would be out there. we should. it's just math and common sense. other planets got billion year+ head starts on us. just one billion years advance on us would be more than enough time to populate the galaxy with ai.

     

    i like how this article just goes all out and describes how in a few hundred years humans may transition to a post-darwinian evolution and migrate consciousness to synthetic bodies. and the alien ai could be singular integrated consciousnesses rather than communities of individuals.

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  7. biden is quite great. a lifelong public servant who always avoided corruption. after decades in congress, he was famous for being poor. the money biden has made has been from his book. don't buy the horse shit

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  8. 3 hours ago, Satans Little Helper said:
    On 10/19/2023 at 11:02 PM, trying to be less rude said:

    sidney powell, trump's kracken lawyer, flipped. plead guilty to six counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with performance of election duties.

    the walls are finally starting to crumble. this georgia case looks like it will get there

    it's looking bad for the dorito. hard to imagine him pleading, himself. which means we'll likely see televised testimony from powell and whoever else flips. will be wild.

     

    and this means new evidence that can be used in the federal case, if i'm not mistaken, which was already apparently a very solid case. 

     

    i'm hearing that the likely republican presidential nominee for 2024 may be sentenced with time by the election. 

  9. 6 hours ago, zero said:

     

    17 hours ago, trying to be less rude said:

    if you give someone a piece of information they didn't have before, you can help. try to figure out which piece of information they'd take the best. 

    this requires the other side to actually listen though. seems to me we're passed that point. there is the side of logic/common sense/decency, and there is the other side starring back angrily with fingers plugged in their ears. society has become far more immature after social media started.

    i know what you mean. you've got to assess on a case by case basis whether and how to engage. definitely some people at some times are dangerous and should be left alone. and some people are toward the dense and hopeless end of the spectrum. 

    one thing about brainwashing is that it can be a step on the way to war. you say "seems to me we're past that point" and this the reasoning in the minds of people who become willing to resort to deadly violence. this is a really unfortunate place to be in. we should keep this is in mind as a motivator to find opportunities to move the ball forward where we can. you don't have to win each battle with each person, it is enough to just move the ball forward some amount. and really this is the better approach, which is recommended when dealing with cult members: not too confrontational. ask questions and sincerely listen. sharing a single piece of information can help. especially if it is relevant, significant, and well supported. try to find a piece of information that the person would find interesting. some things are just interesting, and not too objectionable, but can help people think in a better direction.

    6 hours ago, zero said:
    17 hours ago, trying to be less rude said:

    unfortunately, we're forced to debate. jumping into the fray is doing god's work

    debate only works if the other side is mature enough to reply back with a take that is rooted in reality. the maga tribe have all completely lost touch with the real world, thanks to FB/twitter/Fox news and con man don filling their heads with non stop BS over the years. 

    also, gotta be careful about crossing the streams of politics/religion. doing "gods work" is what the red hats all say trumpo is doing. IMO it's this type of thinking, i.e. believing to be acting on behalf of an imaginary omniscient eye in the sky, that causes more bad deeds to occur on this planet than good.

    i say doing god's work jokingly, and as a way of saying that this is the frontline, and this is where the work of improving society occurs.

    i say it's unfortunate that we're forced to debate because it is so difficult and painful. and yeah in some cases it's not appropriate. and i am talking about a very large time frame. we are in a 100 year crucible. it's important to remember that the more conflict we can resolve through debate, the less conflict energy will manifest as force

    4 hours ago, Summon Dot E X E said:
    17 hours ago, trying to be less rude said:

    yes, brainwashing is real, and it is wild to see

    if you give someone a piece of information they didn't have before, you can help. try to figure out which piece of information they'd take the best. 

    unfortunately, we're forced to debate. jumping into the fray is doing god's work

    Tribalism is the intentional result of wedge politics and the "culture war" (divide and conquer by agitprop).

    certainly people are being played against each-other. there is no doubt about this. existing fissures in society are exploited. prigozhin's Internet Research Agency easily manipulated americans with things like racism

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  10. 7 hours ago, zero said:

    ugh...I've had a few irl encounters with trump supporters lately. one was a very well educated guy I've known a long time, who fell down the right wing rabbit hole years back. don't know how it came up (we were drinking, always the best time to discuss politics lol) and I saw the "switch" in his personality as soon as the election and all that shit came up. the aggressiveness came out big time. not willing to listen to any points I made. his logic fell apart when trying to defend that stuff, but he kept repeating stuff over and over. like robotic scary. I finally had to go down the path of least resistance - fuck all this politics shit, I love you maaaan - in order to get back to some state of calmness. 

    another dude was a bar denizen who came up to a table I was at with friends. he made some comment about one of my friends having hair like trump (my friends hair was salt and pepper grey, longish, but nothing like big T's classic combover) and then it all starts getting into politics. the bar dude just kept repeating over and over "he's my guy. don't care what anyone says, trump's my guy." this dude was definitely looking to fight if we wanted that, which we didn't. dealing with dipshits like this...it's almost like being a parent who is forced to placate an upset toddler so they don't continue to throw shit around the room. 

    Maga-ism is 100% a cult. this is what happens to people in cults. they may act normal for the most part, then boom, some trigger hits, some synapses in their brain start misfiring. they no longer are accepting of logic. I know most of us know this by now, see it day in day out online. but dealing with people like this irl is a reminder that brainwashing is real. 

    yes, brainwashing is real, and it is wild to see

    if you give someone a piece of information they didn't have before, you can help. try to figure out which piece of information they'd take the best. 

    unfortunately, we're forced to debate. jumping into the fray is doing god's work

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  11. sidney powell, trump's kracken lawyer, flipped. plead guilty to six counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with performance of election duties.

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