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Milky Way black hole has 'strong, twisted' magnetic field in mesmerizing new image
i guess they overlayed the waves on this existing image (sag a)
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RICH JAMES ULE NED
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noteworthy that so many republicans are abruptly quitting congress that the dems could take back control of the house before the election! they are 1 vote away! yet another republican house rep has not merely announced they will not run for reelection but also just decided to leave before the end of their term, leaving the republicans a vote short. you'll recall mccarthy did this. more recently, ken buck. now yesterday they lost another, mike gallagher. i think there were others too, in this congress. and this follows years of prominent republicans walking away, such as romney and paul ryan.
republicans are disgusted with their own party. even elected republicans are chosing to not have a job instead of being there.
this occurs as the central witness in the republican impeachment inquiry into biden is indicted as a russian agent feeding disinfo to congress, and trump is on the brink of bankruptcy as he's forced to pay half a billion dollars because of civil judgements about fraud and rape. and he is the nominee despite being indicted for conspiring to interfere with elections, stealing national defense info, and conspiring to oppress people from their constitutional rights. and the republicans have changed their position to stand against helping our ally ukraine as they face an existential attack by a brutal, malignant tyrant, and trump is bringing manafort back onto his campaign for 2024. and the people who were closest to trump are saying he should never be allowed to have power again - for example, pence said he won't endorse him and bolton said he's unfit for the office.
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8 hours ago, ignatius said:
i don't see us voting our way out of this. to survive it's going to require a systems change. not saying to not vote.. but don't hang all the hopes on it.
it will be interesting to see how things play out. we're already in the era of climate change-related disasters taking a toll in money and lives, so it's not like there's any chance of avoiding it. the question is how bad do we fuck up the planet. i would not be shocked if the next hundred years consisted of stymied partial efforts that don't effectively mitigate the damage and result in a state of civilization really struggling to keep stable. it's absolutely worth pushing for electing sanity to power and it is absolutely possible.
8 hours ago, ignatius said:we're breaking emissions records EVERY YEAR for the last like 5 years or something. effectively doing absolutely nothing to fight the problem.
i'm not sure what statistic you're referring to but usa decreased its grennhouse emissions in 2023.
8 hours ago, ignatius said:the heat that's built into the system already hasn't shown itself yet. if we stopped emitting right now and everyone one in the world sat on their couches and did nothing we'd still hit 2 degrees warming which now looks like it will be genuinely catastrophic for humanity.
right, the damage is on a delay of decades. i think by 2050 it will be more obvious what's happening. we are in a special point, between now and then, where we could be doing a lot more but we are waiting too long because people are still waking up and bullshit is being allowed to fly.
8 hours ago, ignatius said:worth reminding that this isn't just a warming problem but overshooting earth's boundaries. even w/o global warming and the climate predicament we'd be up against the wall due to resource limitations and wrecking the ecology of the entire planet. we're basically going full Harkonnen and making a shit planet.
i'd like to think that, in 1,000 years, society will have evolved to a point where people have an internalized sense of duty to regulate their resource impact. personal restraint is a significant part of the equation, though nobody likes that.
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On 3/18/2024 at 3:46 AM, iococoi said:
good article. here the author makes an important point:
that's a diplomatic way of saying that we're throwing the global systems out of whack. this is the best way to understand the situation. calling it "warming" doesn't capture it. it's destabilization.
THE IMPORTANT THING TO FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND is that there is no solving climate change without climate legislation. climate change is an extremely challenging problem and the only way we can solve it this century is with strong and stable national climate legislation. the most important thing anyone can do is to vote based on climate, and to pay attention and raise awareness to help others understand that this is the needed step. the longer we wait to get this done, the worse it will be.
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wow there's actually a much shorter path
we were 42,918 votes
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On 2/28/2024 at 10:42 PM, may be rude said:
to those who say that what they say and do doesn't matter
biden won the popular vote by 7 million but he won the election by 111,694 votes across 3 states. 158 million people voted.
found a shorter path, actually.
the 2020 election was decided by 102,791 votes across 3 states.
"i just wanna find 11,780 votes ... fellas, i need 11,000 votes, give me a break"
the recorded phone call in which trump threatens georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger is so damning. notable that it took place on january 2nd. also that january 3rd was the day when doj senior officials threatened to resign en masse because trump was trying to install jeffrey clark as acting attorney general, and clark was ready to send a letter to georgia advising they hold a special session to decide how to appoint electors because of voting irregularities.
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3 hours ago, decibal cooper said:
First they came for the Roblox enjoyers
Also today a House GOP committee is holding a hearing on pipe bomb threat that took place on January 6th, 2021, where pipe bombs were found outside a DNC & RNC headquarters: https://www.axios.com/2024/03/08/house-republican-hearing-jan-6-pipe-bomb
Really wish there was a quality American fiction writer chronicling our times. So much great stuff for satire and for trying to develop a narrative style that complements the dizzying pace of social, technological, and political life here.
it's true that the US's biggest terrorist threat is domestic extremism.
thanks for posting, i will watch that. i've always found the pipe bomb part of jan 6 fascinating - 2 bombs were placed, ahead of time, at the party headquarters in DC for both parties, one each, blocks apart, and they were discovered on noon of jan 6. this was quite an operation, to place those, and definitely would be done by someone who very seriously was participating in an attempted coup. it fit with the overall plan - the proud boys planned to breach the capital, but needed a crowd as cover, trump was pressuring and threatening members of congress and pence, and trump sent the crowd. proving the connections between trump, the proud boys, and the pipe bomber is of course difficult and we may (may) never see proof but one notices how the things come together to threaten the congress members and pence to follow the plan prepared by jeffrey clark, rudy giuliani, and others, to overturn the election results.
whoever placed those bombs had the balls of a special ops operative. definitely one of the wilder pieces of that whole thing, though there are many wild pieces.
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17 hours ago, usagi said:
nobody reads WATMM ffs. get real, my guy. in a world where public discourse is dominated by either dopamine-hooking ADD social media or the traditional media intelligentsia, who do you think is reading internet forums? let alone a niche one dedicated to a bygone era of music?
even supposing significant numbers of people on the fence about Biden were exposed to your posts, they wouldn't be swung by the constant jerking him off. instead of, idk, explaining about how their lives might be bettered by a Dem election win. cheerleading turns people off massively, I can see exactly how Trump got the spite-Hillary votes in 2016 and may well get the spite-Biden votes this year.
if you want to actually make a difference then you should be out there campaigning and co-ordinating with others, and with a nuanced strategy aimed at winning people over. you obviously have the energy for it, I can't understand why you're channeling it here instead.
in your first paragraph you say public discourse is dominated by dopamine hooking and social media. you know, watmm is social media and dopamine hooking.
in your second paragraph you offer some thoughts on messaging and it's really nothing interesting to me and i don't agree with much of it. i've addressed a lot of the points already in recent pages and in recent replies to you.
in your third paragraph you make a guess about what i do or don't do when i'm not posting on watmm. i'm not going to post personal stuff to you in this context. cool assumption though.
it's important to you that your posts not be consequential but they are. it's understandable if you are resistant to this, you're not alone. people miss the old world where they could talk bullshit with their friends and it didn't matter. we are in a sociological transition, adapting to a fundamentally different info layer. most information is not propagated like it was before widespread usage of the internet.
the people who show up to vote, and the people who don't make it out to vote, they have their opinions and their reasons. where do they get those? political blogs and twitter? discord and youtube? forums and group chats? facebook groups and ad campaigns? cable news and newspapers? in-person conversations and research? all of these things. we can see the reasons that citizens had for voting or not voting, and for how they voted. we can get these reasons in exit polls at election booths, as well as from other polls, focus groups, and research. the opinions that voters have are often the same narratives that get pushed around the internet, even though they're deceptive. they're often constructed and seeded for the political purpose to cause specific results in elections, and people often don't realize that they've been had. a lot of the deceptive narratives that go around do so by people sharing them and repeating them. individuals are a key part of the system.
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2 hours ago, ignatius said:
there are swing voters lurking, and swing state voters. mobilization is a huge factor and will be important in this election.
it's also about hitting the right note/laying out the best formulation.
you don't know who's reading, could be some big people who take their own actions. there are chains of influence, the universe is weird. especially in this time, it's important that there is signal among the noise.
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14 hours ago, usagi said:
how many irl conversations have you had along these lines, with people who weren't already going to vote for Biden? if more of that was happening, if you lot were any good at getting your message across, you wouldn't be seeing those poll results.
right here you acknowledge that the solution consists of individuals engaging with others. why does it not count if it's here? where does it count? you suggest in person counts but not online?
people do get influenced by what they read online. it can make a difference in how motivated someone is to get out and vote.
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4 hours ago, usagi said:
Dems been able to actually do about it other than blindly repeat "bIDeN iS gReAt"? nothing.
weak strawman, buddy. i plainly posted a bullet point list of 20 items but you want to condescend from your horse so you pretend that didn't happen
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4 hours ago, usagi said:
as per 2016, Dems risk failing the election because they still haven't learned how to speak to anyone outside their choir or evolve as a party. the fact that you can't acknowledge that is why you're in trouble, it has less to do with how fucked people's brains are or aren't.
"the problem with dem messaging is..." - people who don't realize that they are the messagers and they are fucking up dem messaging
the easiest take to have is to ride in and be above it all. wow, thanks for the insight
4 hours ago, usagi said:it's not us you have to convince. no amount of fanposting on watmm dot com is going to move the election results by an inch. it's truly hilarious that you think this place is some kind of battleground for the hearts and minds of the American people.
i'm doing the work. you're making it harder. but hey wow you seem so above it all wow i am impressed
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4 hours ago, usagi said:
it's a lame narrative that's not well-grounded in reality. biden is out there being very effective as president. he's fine and great. fox news and other reality subversion operations have been seeding the narrative since 2019. here's a list of accomplishments.
- Lowering Costs of Families’ Everyday Expenses
- More People Are Working Than At Any Point in American History
- Making More in America
- Rescued the Economy and Changed the Course of the Pandemic
- Rebuilding our Infrastructure
- Historic Expansion of Benefits and Services for Toxic Exposed Veterans
- The First Meaningful Gun Violence Reduction Legislation in 30 Years
- Protected Marriage for LGBTQI+ and Interracial Couples
- Historic Confirmation of Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson and Federal Judges of Diverse Backgrounds
- Rallied the World to Support Ukraine in Response to Putin’s Aggression
- Strengthened Alliances and Partnerships to Deliver for the American People
- Successful Counterterrorism Missions Against the Leaders of Al Qaeda and ISIS
- Executive Orders Protecting Reproductive Rights
- Historic Student Debt Relief for Middle- and Working-Class Families
- Ending our Failed Approach to Marijuana
- Advancing Equity and Racial Justice, Including Historic Criminal Justice Reform
- Delivering on the Most Aggressive Climate and Environmental Justice Agenda in American History
- More People with Health Insurance Than Ever Before
of course you're right that we're in a very dangerous situation and we're maybe fucked. but it's not because of biden, it's because people's minds are fucked. there are reasons why someone very seasoned and experienced is exactly what we need right now, and there are trade-offs to younger people.
some say obama was a better politician than biden but honestly i'm not sure. biden has achieved a number of bipartisan agreements. biden has achieved a number of deft political wins. biden has navigated very difficult territory very successfully.
the misconception is a trick that can be illuminated and defused. is he old? sure, he's 81. is he "too old?" no. he's still sharp. biden is fucking great.
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3 hours ago, zero said:
fingers crossed this does not happen. the last thing anyone needs is him getting more TV time. him being on a televised trial will only gain him more supporters. you'd think it would work oppositely, but logical thinking is persona non grata in the T world.
his time would be limited. it would share a lot of important, well-formulated information with the source evidence right there. the justice system is a system for establishing and laying out truth. i know what you mean, he hacks the marks, and they're a big segment. i think it would be worth it. people would be tuned in and they would absorb some shit that would make an impression.
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6 hours ago, ignatius said:
oh shit. i'm outta the loop on the prosecutor banging. is that not allowed? aren't they on the same side? can we not fuck our friends in this day and age?
it's allowed. but fanni decided to hire this outside prosecutor so people are trying to make accusations like she benefited from money he was paid by the state of georgia because they went on vacations together (she claims to have reimbursed him for dinners or whatever), and maybe defendants will claim that the case is tainted as though she used it to get time with the prosecutor, wade, who has been in the process of divorcing his wife... fani and wade claim their relationship started after she hired him.
in any case, fani fucked up. she should not have opened up the prosecution to criticism like this. it's very disappointing. it doesn't mean the case will go away but now fani's office needs to try to make sure it doesn't go away.
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6 minutes ago, ignatius said:
they're trying to get it going in august.
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/17/1213895254/trump-georgia-proposed-trial-date
that article is from 4 months ago. since then, it was revealed that fanni was banging one of the prosecutors. that allowed for new motions or whatever by defendants, allowing more delay tactics. so i think the court watchers now are not expecting a GA trial to start on that timeframe. i think there's a chance it could still start before the election but i'm not sure and i thinks it's unlikely, if even possible.
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11 hours ago, ignatius said:
apparently hackers got ahold of all the docs for the georgia trial and are threatening to release them unless they get a ransom. so, russian hackers and this is to create chaos. if they dump the files on line then... i don't know the legal ramifications.. maybe won't mean anything...
interesting. i'm not expecting the georgia trial to start before the election. if it does, that means it would be ongoing up to and through election day, because it's expected to be maybe around 6 months, and the soonest it could be scheduled would be months out from now. it would be pretty funny if trump is in the middle of a 6-month, televised RICO trial for shit like conspiring to threaten election workers and threatening the GA secretary of state to find him 11,000 votes leading up to and during the election. but i won't be surprised if it's delayed until after election day.
to be clear for the watmm audience, i was referring to the federal coup trial starting potentially in july or august. that's a whole other coup trial. the supreme court just said it will hear the immunity argument, which is blocking the federal coup trial being scheduled. the SC will hear that on april 22, and will decide in the weeks following, at which point the federal coup trial can be scheduled (assuming the SC does not agree that trump is immune from prosecution, which is considered extremely unlikely). once the SC decides the immunity question, the trial can be scheduled for about 2 months later. so july or august are decent guesses, though it's possible the timeframe could get too close to the election and consequently delayed until after... which would be very unfortunate. but if the federal trial is happening in august then i think it's expected to not last nearly as long as the GA trial, i think the federal trial is expected to be more like 1 month. so we could a verdict before the election. not sure when to expect appeals decisions after a verdict. @ignatius tagging for edit
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14 minutes ago, ignatius said:
yeah.. we all remember sweating it out over night/for days as the returns came in from the mail in votes etc. and we get to relive it in a matter of months.
at least there's not a psychopath at the wheel for this one.
will be interesting. looking like the coup trial could be july or august. with a little bit of luck, the republicans could perform very poorly in november.
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to those who say that what they say and do doesn't matter
biden won the popular vote by 7 million but he won the election by 111,694 votes across 3 states. 158 million people voted.
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at 2pm on thursday it's going to be dostrotime
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monk3: what do the autechre experts say?
2020 US Election
in General Banter
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trump dog-whistles to violent extremists. trying to be slick, using coded language, does not change the fact that the dude incites murderous violence, wittingly. he's a domestic terrorist leader.
in the sept 29, 2020 debate he was prompted to denounce the proud boys and his response was "stand back and stand by." they were later key in breaching the capitol and were convicted for seditious conspiracy.
mark meadows's book said trump knew he had covid when he went to the debate with biden on sept 29, 2020. biden getting covid before the vaccines would have threatened his life.
he was always a sociopath and he's already been killing people as part of his authoritarian efforts. he sent ashley babbitt to her death, then paid off her family with huge fundraisers and other financial infusions. a million americans died from covid and he deliberately worsened the pandemic as part of his plan to use mail-in ballots as pretext for disputing the election.
he nearly sparked a war with iran, killing their 3rd highest government official. that was coincidentally 2 weeks before his first impeachment trial in the senate started, in which john bolton was a key witness who ultimately did not testify (bolton long pushed for an iran strike). 50 americans got traumatic brain injuries from the counter-attack, and further escalation was avoided by iran accidentally downing a commercial airliner.
he withheld military aid to ukraine as they fought the earlier part of the russian offensive, in which russian-backed separatists were claiming territory in donbas.
a trumpist living in a van covered in trump stickers mailed bombs to obama and others.
trump knows what he is doing and he is continuing to do it. the uprising he pushes fantasies about won't happen but some small amount of idiots may end up killing people needlessly.
but fox news and the national republican party are still out there pushing this guy. their strategy congealed as the alternate-reality strategy, in the obama years - fox and the gop, in collaboration with each-other, legitimizing the narratives that test the best, harvested from fake news blogs, with weaselly innuendo, constructing alternate realities that brainwash people. now these people at fox and in the national gop are themselves deluded, and the ecosystem has been breeding them for cynicism that rationalizes their furtherance of harmful deception. they defer responsibility to the whole, and the whole is wandering further down a dark path, steered by foreign adversary intelligence and special interest collectives. the oil lobby props up politicians who play ball, this is an example of how different forces with different motivations and different rationalizations end up propping up the same ecosystem of bullshit. it's the counter-reality strategy that they like.