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I don't think it's fair to call one smearing campaign worse than the other. I mean, they showed Biden sniffing little girls hair. Come on. Any bit of smearing looks suspicious. And the people spreading it, willfully retarded.
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1 hour ago, Rubin Farr said:
I think she would have been a great POTUS
Yeah. It's one of those "It's not you, it's me" cases. The US just doesn't seem ready for a female president. It's not about her, I believe.
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On 3/6/2020 at 9:14 PM, Nebraska said:
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Might be a repeat, but this guy covers the events pretty good.
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35 minutes ago, darreichungsform said:
It's not about bringing the right and the left together anymore, it's about the left getting into power and realizing projects that have been due for too long. If Biden loses against Trump it shows that a centrist is the worse choice to achieve that.
Biden losing could be because of multiple reasons. Prematurely putting that on "see, the centrist option doesn't work" is premature. And also assumes the non-centrist option would win. Equally presumptuous. Come on.
And what if he wins. Would that mean it's the end of progressives? Because of this centrist success? That's equally BS, imo.
It's all nonsense.
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I don't like the history repeating itself narrative at all. Look at the last two presidents. First black president ever in US. And the ACA after years of nothing and talking about changing the healthcare system. Took 4 decades to get there. Expansion of medicare/medicaid included. If no one learns anything, it's because they're already putting the ACA in the trashcan to move towards M4all. Really?
And then Trump happens. Is that history repeating? I beg to differ.
There seems to be one constant though. People behaving like entitled bitches in a democracy don't want to learn. They tend to keep on bitching until they get what they want. And a couple months later, theyre bitching because stuff changed, and they want the old back. Perhaps people are too stupid for politics.
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What makes you think that people who aren't already "progressive" move over to being more progressive? I'm really surprised by all these scenarios you speculate about. They don't look credible at all. I could be wrong, obviously. I think it's equally likely people move more right, for instance. Either way, without a president who can bring left and right closer together, in all likelihood, things will get more polarized. And US politics will get in an even worse stalemate. I mean, what kind of policies will ever get through congress? M4all? A green deal? You think congress will move towards the progressive side as well? Without a successful Biden presidency , it's going to move to the right. Or, if you consider Obama successful, it will move to the right anyways. (See 2010)
I don't know, but the only scenario where progressives benefit, oddly enough, is one with Trump in the white house. But that argument isn't particularly strong either, given that Sanders current support is below 2016 in absolute numbers. It all sounds like wishful thinking to me.
Again, I could be wrong. But I haven't seen strong arguments either way. This all seems like attempts of predicting the economy. Good luck with that.
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Fair. And I'd immediately like to add that I think Hiddema actually has something useful to add to the political discourse in the Netherlands. His knowledge and experience in law (he's a high profile lawyer in the netherlands) allows him to give some valuable critique and constructive proposals. Baudet however, as far as I'm concerned, is mostly hollow prose with some occasionally valuable critique here and there. He seems mostly interested in looking smarter than the rest, without actually adding anything substantive. He's an intellectual Trump, if you will.
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The beautiful thing about Biden going up against Trump, is that Trump will have to decide on how he deals with his Ukraine nonsense. Any oppo research he wants to throw against Biden will immediately bring attention to Trump being impeached for it.
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As a fellow Dutchie, thumbass' posts read like someone who's more into Thierry Baudet. He's a more recent rightwing populist since Geert Wilders, the classic rightwing populist in the Netherlands, lost a bit of momentum in recent years. Some of you might know Geert from being the anti-muslim guy from the Netherlands with the painted blond hair.
Thierry on the other hand is against anything EU, loves the Netherlands as it used to be 40 years ago, and hates all the climate change stuff. He's read some philosophy books (ok, he studied philosophy) and is a bit of a snob about it. Sometimes he uses difficult words, like "boreal", which people seem to interpret as anti-immigrant and possibly supports some rightwing extremist ideals. Which Thierry denies, of course. Kinda like Trump, but not as dumb. Although Trump has a more explicit history with racism.
It's typical populism in the Netherlands, btw. It's a combination of conservatism and nationalism (neither right nor left, I'd argue). Quite similar to what Trump is trying to do in the US, actually. I sometimes get the impression Thierry has got a hotline with, whatshisname, Steve Bannon.
Thumbass, I apologise if wrong.
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Scanned it too quickly! Thanks.
Looks like Sanders is simply underperforming. Interesting to see the Bernie bros dealing with this bit of info. As their current argument seems to be built on the primary being rigged against Sanders.
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4 hours ago, chenGOD said:
^^ sure but how is what happened four years again relevant to the fact that Sanders continues to attack the Democrat Party, and young voters aren’t getting out like they needed to? See points 2 and 3: https://www.npr.org/2020/03/04/811868704/5-takeaways-from-super-tuesday-and-joe-bidens-big-night
The unfortunate thing about that analysis is that it never mentions anything about absolute turnout. It might still be the case that in absolute terms the turnout amongst young voters might exceed those of the past, but compaired to the turnout of the older voters is still relatively lacking.
And this absolute turnout is what is going to matter during the general election.
I've read some analysis of 2020 Sanders having lower turnout than 2016 Sanders. In absolute numbers, that is. If true, I'd consider that an electability issue. Especially when the overall turnout in this primary is higher than the 2016 primary. Consider this speculation though, as I'm still waiting for a good final analysis that goes beyond punditry. (Waiting for 538)
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Lets start with getting money out of politics, before all the other stuff. You can change everything, but without addressing the financial issue you're not going anywhere, I'm afraid. You'd end up with multiple parties on the hunt for more money.
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5 minutes ago, joshuatxuk said:
Sanders on the other hand offers starkly opposite policies and rhetoric against both Trump and the establishment in general. He could easily bring in the more casual Trump supporters as well from rural and working class background especially.
You sure? Biden basically won the red states which were on last Tuesday. Biden carrying those red states looks to me like a sign he's more electable in the general election.
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Hey, what can I say? That's what US politics do to you. It's turning us all into delusional mumbling idiots.
It lessens the pain though...
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I like the blue smokey eyes
edit: you guys!
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Nice! Always good to have new dgohn.
In all honesty - and this is going to be blasphemous - dgohn deals with my squarepusher itch better than squarepusher himself nowadays.
* runs *
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3 minutes ago, Soloman Tump said:
I can't see what closing schools for 2 weeks will do though... if the virus is still coming into the country after that time then it will just spread at a later date rather than now....
Air travel and borders needs to be closed to stop new infected patients travelling into Italy, THEN you can close schools.
You want the virus to spread as slowly as possible. Because if everyone gets sick at the same time, it will destabilise an entire country. Healthcare system will be overloaded, other systems will stop working if lots of people get sick and need to stay home (think police, for instance). If, say 10%, of all people affected needs care, the healthcare system will not be able to cope.
This is basically why you want to spread the diseases over the biggest amount of time possible. Society (especially the healthcare system) needs to be able function.
Perhaps the guy in the vid I posted above your post explains it better.
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Not sure if someone else posted vids of this guy before, r whether this showed up in my youtube feed, but this guy is interesting to follow for updates on corona virus.
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Yeah, Biden is also very social. Have you seen how he smiles into the camera?
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2 minutes ago, Candiru said:
I like winning.
That's so Trumpian...
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Bloomberg dropping out will have a bigger impact than Warren leaving.
If these numbers from Texas are representative in any way - and Bloomberg would drop out (assuming these votes will go to Biden). Well, the math is clear.
Typically though, the whites 30-44 bracket goes for Sanders/Warren. Guess which bubble we're in?
Age and race divide Biden and Sanders in Texas
Vote share for each candidate by race and age in Texas, according to preliminary exit polls
GROUP SHARE BIDEN BLOOMBERG GABBARD SANDERS WARREN Black 18-29 2% 30% 4% 8% 45% 5% Black 30-44 3 49 8 — 30 9 Black 45-64 9 68 12 — 12 4 Black 65+ 6 62 26 — 7 4 White 18-29 5 9 3 — 69 12 White 30-44 10 13 4 1 48 23 White 45-64 17 34 12 1 24 14 White 65+ 12 44 19 1 13 11 Latino 18-29 8 10 13 — 66 5 Latino 30-44 8 14 10 2 55 9 Latino 45-64 9 36 20 1 30 7 Latino 65+ 6 36 24 — 31 2 All other 4 22 10 — 43 14 Only showing candidates who haven’t dropped out.
SOURCE: EDISON RESEARCH
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