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  1. 16 minutes ago, nikisoko said:

    you're confusing dogma for science. science updates its beliefs based on the information at hand. you dont go by an assertion from a year ago. the who also asserted we didnt need masks a year ago. the changes that have been announced are based on the information available about the efficacy of the vaccines available. you have to remember it was a shock when the pfizer vaccine tested at 90%. the expectations at the time were something like 60% would be awesome.

    im definitely not going to try to convince someone to not wear a mask.. go for it.  im just saying that based on what ive seen/read here, the indicators are these vaccines are doing exactly what we hoped they would do.

    Yes but

    1- Not everyone (to say the least) is soon to be vaccinated.Some country have almost no access to vaccine.It will take a while.

    2-Variants.They will keep pop up in regions with lot's of contamination.

    3-Variants in some case may reduce vaccine effectiveness.

    4-Saying  to people it's ok to not wear mask this soon seems a bit too much.

    This ain't over yet.And by that i mean in a global and not a local perspective.

    But eh im not a doctor nor an expert.But from what i'm seeing in Brazil, in India and other countries where it really went down.I prefer to be extra cautious than extra careless.

     

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  2. I am personally minded this is gonna last for at least 4 years and im gonna wear the mask for at least 4 years.It was the original assessment by WHO on the length of the pandemic.Seems to be reasonable still to this day.

    People are told way too quickly that this is gonna be over soon.Look at fucking Peru, India.Shit aint over anytime soon.

    As long as the virus is on the loose in other countries, it can and will mutate and that can yield extremely unpredictable results.It's only been since december 2019 and it has already mutated into variants that are more aggressive and contagious.

    The vaccines seems decently effective against variants and thats good news but damn so much risks are being taken out of lack of patience and a hasty wish to be back to normal.

     

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  3. I'm still baffled that after all these months we still don't want to see the fact that YOU CANNOT let this virus let on the loose and hope chance is gonna be on your side.

    The countries that succeeded into containing it have taken a Covid Zero approach not a ''eh just a few hundred hundred/thousand cases,good enough lets go back to normal now'' approach.

    The virus is underestimated again and again and again.

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  4. 21 minutes ago, jaderpansen said:

    5:20 "... only people who are ill and have symptoms are really strong infectious risks to other people..."

    6:20 "... asymptomatic transmission... not one of those things is supported by the science..."

    Are fucking kidding me? Besides indeed being scientific consesus i experienced exactly that in numerous cases first fucking hand. I work in a retirement home and we found out about our first case merely by chance through a standard test without ANY suspicion, no fucking symptoms anywhere to be seen. Mere days later the whole place was infected, including numerous colleagues. Almost half of the residents who lived in that living area fucking died (around 14 people) without being able to say goodbye. Despite immediately being quarantined after said positive test the virus soon spread to other floors as well...

    Couldn't be arsed to watch beyond that. Add some "Everything they told you is a lie" rethoric (well he actually says exactly that quite literally) and you have a perfect example of something that is indeed "rubbish". If this asshole has indeed all the degrees he so proudly mentions right in the beginning he must have won them in a fucking tombola.

    Who the hell is this fella?

    https://fullfact.org/online/yeadon-covid-vaccine/

    https://www.heraldbulletin.com/opinion/kelly-hawes-column-sorting-the-crazies-from-the-experts/article_995440d2-9e46-11eb-8aea-7b58d9367019.html

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pfizer-chief-scientist-vaccines/

    ''Yeadon's title was not "chief scientist of Pfizer," "chief scientific officer of Pfizer," or "vice president of Pfizer." The division he ran had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious disease and at the time of its closure in 2011, was focused on developing compounds that targeted asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.''

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  5. 4 hours ago, BCM said:

    it's a trust problem. i don't trust mine, or anyone else's government in any way whatsoever. i don't trust their narrative, and the people they get to relay that narrative. there are countless examples of governments lying, colluding with big business and acting in ways that only benefit themselves and their mates.

    i wish i did have confidence that the people who govern us are doing things for the right reasons and that i trusted them. would make things much simpler!

    It's quite understandable.Governments are full of crooks.

    BUT science (medical science) and government are not the same entity.It's what lots of people seem to fail to understand.

    There is a point when some people will just automatically say things like ''they're paid by the government'' or ''work for the government'' to just deny anything scientists may say or any scientific fact. Well mate, what if a scientist working at NASA tells you ''the earth is round''? is that a government conspiracy? 

    Well some people truly believe that. Flat Earthers lol.

    Well ''the earth is round'' is no different from a medical scientist telling you ''there is a pandemic and we have to act''.

    But yeah, the mistrust have gone so far that even basic facts are doubted and everything is deemed a conspiracy from the start even if it doesn't make any sense.Government does have indeed part of the blame.But it doesn't mean you should put your brain switch to off and say everything is a conspiracy if it comes from the words of a scientist paid in some way by the government.They do have a basic independance of thought and are kept in check by independant scientific entities and peers.

     

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  6. 18 minutes ago, brian trageskin said:

    why do you have a 2nd account is the true question @thefxbip 

    mods pls ban 

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    :trollface:

     

    haha right?

    lost my password and my old email

    If Joyrex can tell me what is the email i used i could relog

    BUT

     i think one can recognize my signature ''spaced paragraphs'' writing? ?

  7. One of the problems with the conspiracy theory business and the self titled so called sceptics is that they always forget that being a sceptic about authority and institutions is not enough in itself.

    You also have to be truly sceptic about your own biases and prejudices.

    Being a sceptic about everything, without being a sceptic about YOURSELF first, without being self-critical and having a minimal level of intellectual self-discipline and self-awareness about the fact you are a human being capable of having your views distorted by emotional reactivity and irrational thinking is just rearranging your prejudices in a way that is pleasing to yourself and doesn't endanger your view of the world.

    It is not intellectually honest.

    And it is not what scientists do.

    On cannot simply say ''i've done my research'' if you are not being subject to intense peer reviews in a methodic, rational, thorought process. And multiple times.

    Scientists are double checked all the time.

    Yes, they still need to be kept in check and be questioned but are you questioning yourself (and that conspiracy youtube) video with the same intensity as you are questioning the facts of experts that have worked in fields that are INTENSIVELY peer reviewed?

    Are you peer reviewed? who is keeping you in check? 

    Who keeps the youtube video in check?

    The answer is usually nobody.

    And this is why we need scientists.

     

     

     

     

    Also dcom for WATMM president

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