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    right after i had seen the film i read this post on imdb that i sort of agree with to some extent

     

     

     

    For starters this film moves at the pace of constipation. I can’t ever remember seeing a film that develops at such a horribly boring pace. To make matters worse, the repetition is painful. Harry Caul’s paranoid nature is repeatedly beaten into our heads like we viewer’s are far too stupid to ever recognize paranoia. Beyond the repeated establishment of his paranoia - the bulk of the film’s first 70 minutes is spent watching Harry Caul turn various knobs in effort to dial in clearer dialog on his surveillance tapes, rewinding the tapes over and over again, while listening to the same bits of the conversation over and over again. We get it Coppola,……we heard the conversation the first 400 times Hackman played it! If this movie was edited at a pace that didn’t put people to sleep, it would have been about 30-40 minutes long and had completely equal impact without losing any relevance.

     

    Then there is the foolish contradiction within Hackman’s character. He was so paranoid that no one knew where he lived and he wouldn’t even give out his phone number. Even his girlfriend (that he supposedly loved) had no clue where he lived, what his phone number was or even what he did for a living. Yet Hackman had no problem letting his one night stand into his world,…..letting her sleep over in his surveillance lair, among his top secret homemade equipment and precious surveillance tapes?!?!?!? He won’t let anyone in his apartment with his jazz records and saxophone, but he’ll consent to a party in his top secret work space?!?!?! A party with guests that are made up of his snooping competition and various people he doesn’t even know?!?!?! He won’t tell the woman he loves where he lives, what his phone number is or what he does for a living – yet he will let a woman he just met alone with his precious surveillance tapes and homemade, top secret surveillance equipment while he sleeps?!?!?! Then in the end of the movie Hackman destroys his apartment while looking for a planted bug,…doing tens of thousands of dollars worth of damage in a rented apartment. How about renting a new apartment (he had a landlord that violates his privacy anyway)?!?!?! Or better yet, how about NOT having any incriminating conversations in the apartment?!?!?! No one knows where he lived and no one had his phone number – how hard would of it been to save the incriminating conversations for when he was outside his apartment walls?!?!?!

     

    I know this hurts many of you that had some egomaniacal film professor brainwash you into believing this is a “thinking man’s masterpiece”,…..but wake up and see this movie for what it is.

     

     

     

    i don't agree with everything he says, the pace didn't bother me one bit, though the repetition and contradictions in hackmans character got sort of annoying. still, i'd probably score it a bit higher now that i've had some time to think about it. guess my expectations were just too high. was expecting something on the same level as network for some reason.

     

    sorry for digging this up, only seeing your reply now

     

    man, that's a pretty deplorable critique, all his points are easily reversed - especially the one about the one-night-stand job - It makes perfect sense that of all people he'd let a random woman, whom he was only going to have a 1 night encounter with, come to his house, if anything, meeting a woman like this is the only scenario he can exercise the need to show someone his home, showing it to someone who he'll never see again, and someone he'll never be close to again

     

     

    he didn't show her his apartment though, he showed her his super secret studio with all his eqipment and tapes etc. he never brought anyone to his apartment. still though, im not sure i agree with that point either, or think it's a viable argument. anyway whatever.

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    I stopped reading after you complained about The Conversation being a slow movie. Fuck you get off my world.

     

    the pace didn't bother me one bit

     

     

    i love slow paced films, the white ribbon for example is one of the best films i've seen recently and it's slow as fuck. also world on a wire. but ok, i'll "just go watch transformers or something instead".

     

    anyway wtf is up with not being able to multiquote on watmm anymore?

    Films Recently Watched

    in General Banter

    Posted

    right after i had seen the film i read this post on imdb that i sort of agree with to some extent

     

     

     

    For starters this film moves at the pace of constipation. I can’t ever remember seeing a film that develops at such a horribly boring pace. To make matters worse, the repetition is painful. Harry Caul’s paranoid nature is repeatedly beaten into our heads like we viewer’s are far too stupid to ever recognize paranoia. Beyond the repeated establishment of his paranoia - the bulk of the film’s first 70 minutes is spent watching Harry Caul turn various knobs in effort to dial in clearer dialog on his surveillance tapes, rewinding the tapes over and over again, while listening to the same bits of the conversation over and over again. We get it Coppola,……we heard the conversation the first 400 times Hackman played it! If this movie was edited at a pace that didn’t put people to sleep, it would have been about 30-40 minutes long and had completely equal impact without losing any relevance.

    Then there is the foolish contradiction within Hackman’s character. He was so paranoid that no one knew where he lived and he wouldn’t even give out his phone number. Even his girlfriend (that he supposedly loved) had no clue where he lived, what his phone number was or even what he did for a living. Yet Hackman had no problem letting his one night stand into his world,…..letting her sleep over in his surveillance lair, among his top secret homemade equipment and precious surveillance tapes?!?!?!? He won’t let anyone in his apartment with his jazz records and saxophone, but he’ll consent to a party in his top secret work space?!?!?! A party with guests that are made up of his snooping competition and various people he doesn’t even know?!?!?! He won’t tell the woman he loves where he lives, what his phone number is or what he does for a living – yet he will let a woman he just met alone with his precious surveillance tapes and homemade, top secret surveillance equipment while he sleeps?!?!?! Then in the end of the movie Hackman destroys his apartment while looking for a planted bug,…doing tens of thousands of dollars worth of damage in a rented apartment. How about renting a new apartment (he had a landlord that violates his privacy anyway)?!?!?! Or better yet, how about NOT having any incriminating conversations in the apartment?!?!?! No one knows where he lived and no one had his phone number – how hard would of it been to save the incriminating conversations for when he was outside his apartment walls?!?!?!

     

    I know this hurts many of you that had some egomaniacal film professor brainwash you into believing this is a “thinking man’s masterpiece”,…..but wake up and see this movie for what it is.

     

     

     

    i don't agree with everything he says, the pace didn't bother me one bit, though the repetition and contradictions in hackmans character got sort of annoying. still, i'd probably score it a bit higher now that i've had some time to think about it. guess my expectations were just too high. was expecting something on the same level as network for some reason.

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    i had such crazy high expectations on beyond the black rainbow, but it turned out to be all flash. the awesome cinematography and music deserved a much better script imo, and the cheesy ending pretty much ruined it for me. might've felt different about it if i hadn't known about the film long before i got to see it though, dunno.

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    played black ops 2 for like 1½ hour and fucking hell, give me control of my goddamn character damnit! so far it's worse than mw3, or max payne 3 even, it's like 98% in-game or between mission cutscenes or scenarios where i have to sneak around in some grass or drag some dude through the jungle I JUST WANT TO SHOOT SOME PEOPLE FUCK

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    independence day

     

    the first time i saw it (over 10 years ago) i couldn't stand it. this time around though i quite enjoyed it, for what it is (a cliché filled overly patriotic cheese fest). i like how it's one of the last special effects heavy blockbuster movies that used shitloads of miniature models instead of going all out cgi.

     

    better than the new batman / 10

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