lumpenprol Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 The stones are cool, but "guiding fitness" (eugenics) is fucking bullshit. hm, I think eugenics works, the problems with it are not scientific, but ethical. Selective breeding has been used for ages in both plants and animals effectively. Forget monkeying about with DNA, just use the old Mendelian method of have x screw y to make z. You're right, better is subjective, but that doesn't mean you can't get what you want. Want smarter people? More athletic people? You could breed them, without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share Posted May 11, 2009 good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 good luck with that. heh, you will probably do it too, in your lifetime - through sexual selection. Sexual selection is the only form of selection left for humans, as for the most part our environment and diseases no longer select certain people over others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 eugenics has influenced a lot of our western societies. i would argue that the acceptance of abortion is heavily eugenics based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I just want to say this thread has been an excellent read, and I don't really know how to reply, but I'm enjoying it. Slightly off topic, but worth mentioning. Do you know what the biggest threat to human survival on Earth right now actually is? Bees, I'm not kidding, they are in danger, and if Bee's die, we die, thats a fact, I cannot give you the full ins and outs of details but it's worth looking up. That sounds really fucking stupid, but I am, for once, being serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 why would mobile phones suddenly start killing bees, wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 the cherry tree in my old backyard stopped producing cherries as there were no bees to pollinate the tree. bees where i live are now rectarded and slow moving wasps that as far as i know can't even sting. it's pathetic and startling. i haven't seen a true honey bee since i've lived here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 They are endangered mate, accross the globe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegecow Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I find it hard to believe that one of the most ancient and hardy species on the planet, also commonly cultivated by humans, is "endangered". i have heard that the bee population is on the decline though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Classified as endangered. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3733197.stm http://www.northern-times.co.uk/news/fulls...ed_species.html And that was a year ago^^. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegecow Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 by the way those are just the first two items I could find on google, didn't really read them I guess I should try harder at 3:30 am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegecow Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Yeah, thats about along the lines of what i've been hearing. Though there are more kinds of bees than just bumble + honey, nevertheless, its worrying. Though i doubt we'd be able to let them dwindle to the point of extinction since so much of our ecology and agriculture is dependant on them, and there are (im sure) myriad ways we can attempt to counteract the decline (treating these mites, changing the way we treat wild gypsy moths, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 i used to stomp on bumblebees with a friend of mine when we were kids. rip bumblebees...:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 It is the Honey bee that keeps the environment stable, and thats the in the biggest decline, I should have made that point in my first post (without the honey bee the others would die off anyway). I don't know enough to talk about it, I just know that my sister is working on the case of bees at the minute and that it's a lot more serious than people are willing to believe, accept or even know about. Although you're right I doubt we'd let it get to that, but I suppose if people aren't actually aware of it, then not enough can be done, I suppose thats where the black hole is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Sorry if it's jazzed http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/m...currentPage=all Called the Georgia Guidestones, the monument is a mystery—nobody knows exactly who commissioned it or why. The only clues to its origin are on a nearby plaque on the ground—which gives the dimensions and explains a series of intricate notches and holes that correspond to the movements of the sun and stars—and the "guides" themselves, directives carved into the rocks. These instructions appear in eight languages ranging from English to Swahili and reflect a peculiar New Age ideology. Some are vaguely eugenic (GUIDE REPRODUCTION WISELY—IMPROVING FITNESS AND DIVERSITY); others prescribe standard-issue hippie mysticism (PRIZE TRUTH—BEAUTY—LOVE—SEEKING HARMONY WITH THE INFINITE). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegecow Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I guess its yet another thing we'll have to add it to the global "to do" list :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Along with global warning and the yeti :laughing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegecow Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 (they are quite IDM though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 if we were to address shit logically, judge CUTEBEE would occur about 500-1000 years after fallout power armor dude discovering the georgia guidestones DLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I'm not quite sure how that works on my timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 dpm't lose any sleep; the level cap is gone and gordon freeman is wakin up to smell the ashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share Posted May 11, 2009 good luck with that. heh, you will probably do it too, in your lifetime - through sexual selection. Sexual selection is the only form of selection left for humans, as for the most part our environment and diseases no longer select certain people over others. I agree with you. I meant good luck convincing chengod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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