quick watmmpinion

[Guest ruiagnelo]

so i am working on this project for uni, in which i am supposed to create a small shelter - 4 sqm of maximum floor ocupational area - to be placed in public spaces of transportation buildings like airports, bus or train stations. the idea is that people waiting in flight changes or simply in the need of a quick rest could pay a small amount and use it for a couple of hours. it should be equiped with bed and desk platform.

 

i got inspiration from this little bird's nest that i caught while walking in my grandparents garden, when i was a kid, and i want to create a kind of cubical structure, all built in wood, as it contrasts to the white, artificial mood of such public spaces and creates a human, cozy, textural atmosphere inside. the exterior of the 'cell' will be designed in such a way that it resembles precisely a bird's nest and it's entirely close by all sides, only having a white translucent (not transparent) glass on the top, so that it can somehow filter the artificial light of the exterior (=public space) as if it was the sun light and the nest's tree top was the airport or station's roof.

 

also i am thinking of it to exist in such a way that you can associate up to 2 and 4 cells, and create a space that can be shared by a small family while travelling, or simply a group of people that otherwise would have to look for an hotel, in order to get some hours of sleep.

edit:for instance, imagine one cell, in which two of the sides can be movable surfaces, so that 4 corners of 4 cells join, and create a bigger square space, 4 times bigger than an individual cell.

 

it is this last idea that brings me mixed feelings.

 

i really don't know whether is worth, or not, having these cells capable of doing such thing, because it can be a pain in the ass designing the structure so that it works that way.

it is possible and i am sure i can do that, plus it is wood we are talking about, but i have to decide if i am going forward with it or not. plus the whole nest concept could lose its expression.

 

 

would you be satisfied if, while travelling with friends or family, you had the opportunity to spend some sleep hours in such space? would you find it comfortable, practical and worthy of spending your money?

 

 

please leave your opinion if possible

[Boxing Day]

Do i really want my kids to sleep in the same bed junkies do heroin?

[Guest ruiagnelo]

Do i really want my kids to sleep in the same bed junkies do heroin?

 

you would associate the cells exclusively if you had enough people you were close to.

if you had two kids or one kid, plus wife, 4 cells associated to create a bigger cell would work perfectly.

 

of course we are talking generic situations.

 

i think it could be a pretty good idea, and i haven't seen such functionality in similar projects.

[Boxing Day]

What i meant was , how PUBLIC are these cells , is somebody in charge of cleaning-after-use , etc , etc.

 

Also , i don't want to share sleep-place with the lower-lower class (homeless people).

[Guest ruiagnelo]

What i meant was , how PUBLIC are these cells , is somebody in charge of cleaning-after-use , etc , etc.

 

Also , i don't want to share sleep-place with the lower-lower class (homeless people).

 

think of them as both public and private.

i won't refer to them as semi-public or semi-private, because such terms are a means of ignoring both concepts of public/private space and avoiding discussion.

 

also homeless people would have the possibility of using these same cells, if they had money of course. but they would be in their own private space, while using it, and after they (and any other person went out) it would be cleaned, just like any other public bathroom.

 

 

 

if you ask me, such project is clearly an utopic idea and even the best ideas yet (for instance the sleepbox) aren't being produced or used yet.

 

but it is what we were asked to do, so we have to ignore some questions and do our best.

[Boxing Day]

Your idea reminds me of Japan's capsule hotels.

 

[Guest ruiagnelo]

Your idea reminds me of Japan's capsule hotels.

 

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it is absolutely different, in so many ways.

 

i wonder if you read everything i wrote..

[Boxing Day]

LOL , i said it "reminded me of" , not that they were similar in any way.

[Guest ruiagnelo]

LOL , i said it "reminded me of" , not that they were similar in any way.

 

lol i know

 

they remind me of this, actually:

 

[Guest ruiagnelo]

*waits for babar's reply*

[Guest tht tne]

sneaksta303 has been homeless, ask him

[Guest Babar]

*waits for babar's reply*

 

pwn

[Guest ruiagnelo]

*waits for babar's reply*

 

pwn

 

are you avoiding a proper reply?

[Siegecow]

This is a cool idea for a project. Your idea reminds me of the Schroeder house, a piece of auchitectre in the de stijl style thats has modular walls and other stuff

 

References aside, i guess i don't understand why the structure needs the potential to transform like that, as opposed to just having it be the structures main function. Basically if youre making this place modulate to accommodate 4, why not just build it for 4 in the fist place? if only 1 person rents out the space could another person potentially rent out one of the other cells and invade the privacy of the first? Can you make the individual cells comfortable enough with only 4x4 meters?

[murve33]

Will these areas be in shopping malls, and if so, can I bang my girlfriend in them if we get horny?

 

I really want something like that.

 

Edit: Oh yea, I actually really do like this idea.

[Joyrex]

What you describe is EXACTLY what Capsule Hotels are used in Japan for, as was mentioned earlier.

[murve33]

What you describe is EXACTLY what Capsule Hotels are used in Japan for, as was mentioned earlier.

That is so amazing.

I read ruiagnelo's orignal paragraphs and lost the patience to read the rest of the thread .

[Guest ruiagnelo]

 

References aside, i guess i don't understand why the structure needs the potential to transform like that, as opposed to just having it be the structures main function. Basically if youre making this place modulate to accommodate 4, why not just build it for 4 in the fist place? if only 1 person rents out the space could another person potentially rent out one of the other cells and invade the privacy of the first? Can you make the individual cells comfortable enough with only 4x4 meters?

 

that's just me trying to go further.

 

i thought the following:

a 4 sqm space is a 4 sqm space, period. you can sleep, work or browse the webs on your laptop. you can even bring your girl, and despite being tight, it works well. but that is as far as you go.

 

you can explore a concept or start from a metaphor like i did with the nest, but you will be working the aesthetic side, mainly.

 

 

i want this to be used in new ways. explore the idea of connecting cells, create larger spaces while keeping the individual cells. and do it practically and quickly.

[murve33]

I've read the thread now.

 

I honestly think that if these were used as a type of mass-apartment complex, that it would provide an excellent living space for people with low-income. The rooms could be made up of these, and then you could have a lobby on the main floor, for all of your non-sleeping/laptop using needs. It'd really decrease one's ecological footprint as well, which is always good.

 

Of course these areas would be prone to a high crime rate, but, if you could somehow get past that, I think it is indeed Utopic.

 

So, applying this design (on a lower scale) as a quick travel sleep space is an excellent idea in my opinion.

[Guest ruiagnelo]

What you describe is EXACTLY what Capsule Hotels are used in Japan for, as was mentioned earlier.

 

space is precious in japan. especially in huge metropolitan areas like tokyo.

 

 

but there is a limit we should not forget about. there is a minimum space we need in order to have comfort and rest. a human limit.

 

 

4 sqm is a very tight space and can get very unhealthy at a certain point, due to being tight and making pressure on us.

i have seen experimental projects that put humans living in the most artificial, unhuman, tight spaces ever dreamed of.

 

there is this portuguese guy who won a prize because he suggested a house, yes he called it house in which you would live in fetal position because you would have that only space. it's like your body would fit exactly in it and thus being comfortable, like inside the mom.

it's ok to experiment and have new ideas, but it's not ok to think we can live in such conditions.

 

i am trying to avoid creating an unhuman space in my project.

[MildewOnRice]

sounds like it would be p.noisy

[GORDO]

it will be used mostly for having sex i bet.

[murve33]

People need to change their idea of their living space. Instead of living your entire life in your home, you should use it as a place to sleep, and then live the rest of your life out in the world.

 

Going back to my previous statement, I think this would work as an apartment complex. As long as a good dining area and lobby were used for the public. (Families could not live comfortably in the nest structure, obviously).

[Guest ruiagnelo]

I've read the thread now.

 

I honestly think that if these were used as a type of mass-apartment complex, that it would provide an excellent living space for people with low-income. The rooms could be made up of these, and then you could have a lobby on the main floor, for all of your non-sleeping/laptop using needs. It'd really decrease one's ecological footprint as well, which is always good.

 

Of course these areas would be prone to a high crime rate, but, if you could somehow get past that, I think it is indeed Utopic.

 

So, applying this design (on a lower scale) as a quick travel sleep space is an excellent idea in my opinion.

 

yes, i agree with you, still utopic to think of having such spaces for people with low income.

but then again, believe me, that's more of a political problem than an architectural one.

 

 

architects through the course time have proven that it is possible to build human and decent spaces with ridiculous amounts of money.

 

 

just think of the clay houses built in yemen that provide for an excellent living space and that are durable and strong enough, or the wood houses built pretty much everywhere in this world where wood is good for building purposes. i know these are very specific examples, but, if they can build as simple as that, why are we making such a mess in our cities with so much money and advanced technology?

 

currently there is a tendency to go back in time and study the potential of building materials like earth or clay and i have a feeling we will start seeing some pleasent experiences in the next few years.

 

but there is mainly a political/economical barrier and a population growing fast like we never imagined.

 

sounds like it would be p.noisy

 

there will be acoustic isolation. no sound will enter the space.

 

it will be used mostly for having sex i bet.

 

+1 advantadge

[MildewOnRice]

 

sounds like it would be p.noisy

 

there will be acoustic isolation. no sound will enter the space.

 

 

what if someone gets locked inside, and they try to shout for help, but they are acousticly isolated?

 

WHAT THEN?!

 

OH GOD