riot meth aesthetics

[schlucharski]

http://soundcloud.com/conformism/riot-meth-aesthetics

[Guest hahathhat]

first 2/3 suffers from being unmelodic acid plonks i don't find very exciting.

 

once the melody comes in during the last 1/3, though, that picks it right up.

 

why's it end so suddenly?

[schlucharski]

Its not about melody, its about rhythm. Its about drowning in a hole of mud inside a foggy forest.

Or its about a fish thats drying out on a perverts kitchen table.

Whatever it is, it is. Its not fighting for attraction. Not wearing makeup.

Imagine you got stuck in the mud, every movement is a struggle. But whats more: thru this you are connected to everything, and every movement changes everything.

Not the beautiful LSD story with the cosy feeling of unity with everything, but the hopelessness of naked mind thats capable of imagining something different, and therefore must degrade reality.

Brb hospital

[Guest hahathhat]

i've been staring at that explanation for the past minute or two, reading it repeatedly, trying to understand wat teh fuk.

 

you'll have to help me out, here -- "the hopelessness of naked mind thats capable of imagining something different, and therefore must degrade reality." correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't imagination be a nice escape from being stuck in a mud pit? if anything, i find reality is much messier than imagination, and i'm not even sure if i agree with the sentiment in the first place. if that is what that means.

 

still trying to divine how this explains the track to me as well.

 

are you going to a hospital to fix your broken english?

[brian trageskin]

lol

i didn't even listen to the track.

[schlucharski]

dude your so technocratic about every word, as if words could explain everything, or my broken english.

Imagination would be nice if you re stuck in the mud, yes, thats what I'm saying.

So Imagination > reality, so reality gets degraded by imagination,right ? thus -> religion, culture, entertainment.

 

if you consider yourself being part of the mud (if you 'are' part of the mud), there's no problem, as soon as someone tosses a brain in your head, you are not anymore, you have no choice.

How does this fit into the song: the whole thing is a mud separation process. the key moments are 0:41 and 1:13, now make up yourself a nice story, I can't do all the work for you

 

thanks for saying hello brian

[patternoverlap]

I can dig it.

[schlucharski]

I can dig it.

Hah you are the man ! At least someone who appreciates a proper mud separation process.

[Guest hahathhat]

dude your so technocratic about every word, as if words could explain everything, or my broken english.

Imagination would be nice if you re stuck in the mud, yes, thats what I'm saying.

So Imagination > reality, so reality gets degraded by imagination,right ? thus -> religion, culture, entertainment.

 

if you consider yourself being part of the mud (if you 'are' part of the mud), there's no problem, as soon as someone tosses a brain in your head, you are not anymore, you have no choice.

How does this fit into the song: the whole thing is a mud separation process. the key moments are 0:41 and 1:13, now make up yourself a nice story, I can't do all the work for you

 

whoa there! i don't think i've ever complained about your english in the past. with this sort of abstract stuff, grammatical ambiguities can be extremely confusing! here is an example:

 

 

 

"as soon as someone tosses a brain in your head, you are not anymore, you have no choice."

 

not what? my first guess was that you missed the word "ok" or something, e.g. "....you are not ok anymore, you have no choice."

 

but then i restarted the paragraph, and realized it probably connected back with the beginning:

 

"if you consider yourself being part of the mud (if you 'are' part of the mud), there's no problem, as soon as someone tosses a brain in your head, you are not anymore, you have no choice."

 

so, "you are not part of the mud anymore, you have no choice."

 

i am pretty sure that is what you meant -- but it took me a minute to figure it out, and even then i'm not 100%.

 

 

 

so the dawn of consciousness out of the primordial ooze? that is my first guess. knowing you're going to die and all that -- i remember joking while tripping once, "i'd like to file a complaint with the management." i don't recall ever asking to be conscious! by and large i enjoy it, but it's a bummer sometimes. i think it was hunter s. thompson that called it "the pain of being a man." religion, culture, and entertainment are ways of coping. i suppose you could also mean this in a zen/enlightenment acid/ego-death sense, which is something i've never really experienced.

 

presuming that's anywhere near what you mean, now what about this track? is it just some venting? are you trying to communicate anything more than your venting emotions? maybe it is like a diorama of the process, intended to teach the listener how it went down. in either case, i appreciate the rhythmic programming on a moment-to-moment basis, but to me it's nothing but pleasantly interesting noise. i guess i'd call it a half-step above ambient. i don't really get a picture so much as a color or texture.

 

sorry to pick about words again, but the title "riot meth aesthetics" made me think it would be spastic noise, and i clicked listen with that impression. that wasn't a good start.

[schlucharski]

Dude I really appreciate the way how you cope with my dilemma, all in all its a quick shot track, nothing.. well… special to think about, I have to devalue this, after my ego had carried it into higher spheres. Well, happens when a simple mind goes big.

 

Anyways: the piece was made after going pregnant with a thought that came back into my mind when my cousin showed up with his newborn. I remembered stuff I had been reading long time ago, heavy and absolutely unpractical german philosophers.

I was thinking the baby is about to "wake" up. Altough it can recognize and distinquisch faces (his mothers etc)to a certain degree, the outer environment must be a foggy undefined one-piece of something. So it was like the technical aspect of consciousness. The song is something like waking up. (first 30 seconds should be cut out, the name I chose was absolutly irrelevant, again my mistake)

But it was indeed something like the dawn of consciousness and the pain of existence that was in my mind before getting into that technical explanation, as I tend to technologize when I get too emotional and feel the sweat on my eyebrows.

 

Heres another one that was made at the same time:

 

http://soundcloud.com/conformism/title

[Guest hahathhat]

Dude I really appreciate the way how you cope with my dilemma, all in all its a quick shot track, nothing.. well… special to think about, I have to devalue this, after my ego had carried it into higher spheres. Well, happens when a simple mind goes big.

i suspected as much.

i do this too, sometimes. i think it's a pretty human thing to do

 

Anyways: the piece was made after going pregnant with a thought that came back into my mind when my cousin showed up with his newborn. I remembered stuff I had been reading long time ago, heavy and absolutely unpractical german philosophers.

I was thinking the baby is about to "wake" up. Altough it can recognize and distinquisch faces (his mothers etc)to a certain degree, the outer environment must be a foggy undefined one-piece of something. So it was like the technical aspect of consciousness. The song is something like waking up. (first 30 seconds should be cut out, the name I chose was absolutly irrelevant, again my mistake)

But it was indeed something like the dawn of consciousness and the pain of existence that was in my mind before getting into that technical explanation, as I tend to technologize when I get too emotional and feel the sweat on my eyebrows.

yeah, that puts your explanation into proper context. the end of the proto-conscious state before there is a separate "I", or an ego. this isn't quite enlightenment/ego death -- i'd wager that simmering down your ego until it disappears is much different from simply not having one yet!

 

what do you mean by technologize? i looked the word up, but the definitions don't quite jive with how you're using it. i'm guessing "I tend to technologize" means "I tend to rationalize." that is, when you get emotional, you invent some intellectual bits to explain your emotions.

 

http://soundcloud.com/conformism/title

 

- it's raining today and this is a good song for it

- nice title

[chassis]

I like the beats. Is there some effect on the beats or is it just the sample of that snare at the start?

[Ceqn]

The first two thirds of the song lack flow and direction in my opinion, but I really dug your drum programming. Is it arpeggiated? Or is that sweet hand-made tracking?

[schlucharski]

I like the beats. Is there some effect on the beats or is it just the sample of that snare at the start?

from start to before it gets louder, I think its some kind of micro delay setting probably chorus, can't remember.

 

The first two thirds of the song lack flow and direction in my opinion, but I really dug your drum programming. Is it arpeggiated? Or is that sweet hand-made tracking?

 

I agree although I like the part from 0.39 to 1.10 kinda, dunno.

Arpeggiated? Good Sir, it may not be obvious but I have standards, of course its hand-programmed.

Oh boy this song makes more rush than I wanted

 

Thanks for the feedback everybody !

[hardcode]

i thought you did a good job on the track although maybe not coming off as philisophically deep as you intended

[ghOsty]

liked the last half of the first song a lot better... expand on that last 1/3 of the song.

 

i dig the 2nd one... old school sounding, in a good way

[schlucharski]

i thought you did a good job on the track although maybe not coming off as philisophically deep as you intended

as my explanation was more a

Does it make music more understandable in general, like modern art, where you can relate more when intellectually prepared, probably not at all, bypasses everything and goes directly into your limbic system.

 

liked the last half of the first song a lot better... expand on that last 1/3 of the song.

 

i dig the 2nd one... old school sounding, in a good way

 

thanks man, that kind of drumprogramming exhausts me, I don't do it often.