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syd syside

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  1. Agreed atop, one of the most visually interesting Sci Fiction in a while. Children of Men is also amazing, but different. Sunshine has some awesome sequences... but this was something especially amazing. I can't think of too many other films that had consistent enough visuals of a far away future. It was like time travel.
  2. There is also something interesting about the relationship David has with films and dreams. You could say he doesn't distinguish a difference between them. And he himself acts and behaves in ways that are dramatically interesting or poignant.. while the other characters are far more clumsy. I think he sees his reality as no different than a film and he sees how Shaw is wrapped up in past emotions rather than exploring the world in ways a third party (like himself) would find interesting, even entertaining.
  3. my personal theory is David told the Engineer where Shaw was, or was likely to be if he did not in fact know. but the other way, where the Engineer told David he was going after her, is also possible. but the Engineer didn't seem too talkative really. we may never know, they're purposefully obfuscating details like this in set-up for a sequel seemingly, so it may forever be unanswered. He was no longer mobile, so therefore could no longer touch and explore more stuff. He is essentially dead in a sense. Therefore I think he told the Engineer where Shaw was and also told Shaw the Engineer was coming, because he knew his head would just forever sit there on the ship or he would be destroyed if Shaw did not kill the Engineer and come back for him. He is pleasantly surprised when she shows up and encourages them to go get in another ship and to go explore more.
  4. The final shot of the Xeno is hilarious and awesome. Sticking its tongue out. How life continues and will continue to go on long after us and keep evolving beyond our antiquated bodies. I might also suggest that the Engineers have similar flaws. Their wish to control chaos and to eventually shed themselves into something stronger/better. Could the Engineers be ashamed of humans but also in denial that human behavior mirrors their own? Or that there is nothing pure about their genetic make up?
  5. The films conclusion is also more interesting now in my mind. The anti-climax of its end represents the emotional feeling of our own fate... how we will grow old, chasing or hoping in our final breaths to find the answers on the other side. The crew on the ship does a cheer, raising their hands in the air, feeling as if they have won... but having no idea what exactly. Continuing to believe there is some kind of trophy awaiting humanity. Something better then what has potentially been dealt.
  6. Reading on other forums and this one about the Space Jesus etc etc... or why the human characters had no development is kind of hilarious now. It is like the audience is looking into a mirror.
  7. Here's a question. Is the lack of character development for the human characters (David is the only character that learns and wonders) bad writing or is it intentional? The humans move through this alien environment looking around, hoping to find something definitive about their origins. But they don't find it immediately, only DNA samples. However interesting that may be, they do very little analyzing of what it might mean. Nor do they speculate on other things they witnessed. The two main scientists see these Engineers as Gods... and wish nothing more to meet them. Same as Weyland. Yet almost everyone in the film recklessly, hopelessly, meets some sort of end. Most deaths being undignified and meaningless. Before they realized the Engineers wish to terminate Earth/humanity, the Engineers are Gods. They have the answers. When Shaw and others come to understand the Engineers plans, they no longer hold any respect towards it. They assume its motivation and reasoning is wrong. They assume the moral ground even though that ground was built on the shoulders of the Engineers (scene with ground breaking open represents human reality/culture literally breaking open). David on the other hand, knows everything all along I think. He knows waking up the Engineers will lead to events that end humanity. His view on humanity is that if their creators saw no more purpose with humans and humans see no purpose in life then the reasons why (for any of it, origin, why we were made etc) are meaningless. The audience isn't meant to find definitive meaning. It's almost essentially trolling those who take the film seriously. Who think there might actually be some kind of answer. There isn't one is the fact. But for some of us, we can look at life around us and wonder regardless. David has more love and passion for life than humans because he doesn't pretend that his creator cares about him. He doesn't pretend that he will go to heaven when he dies. He doesn't blink an eye when his creator says he has no soul. Perhaps that is what the Engineers would have told us... but unlike David, we continue pretending, denying, and ultimately living in fear. So yeah, I think you are right atop. This film will be looked back on more highly. At least it continues to grow on me and I still have only seen it once. It's becoming something rather brilliant actually.
  8. Scary Monster is indeed amazing jefferoo, might be my favorite.
  9. I get the impression that the institutions and marketing is what fuels a lot of the culture today with how one approaches media. There is generally two or three groups of people, ones who look at advertising as knowledge, ones who are indifferent, and ones who hate advertising. I have discussed the negative role advertising has on media, how it alters creative freedoms... it is all quite disconcerting sometimes. So I understand having a strong opposing emotional response to something that is a) making lots of money, is mainstream b) cost a lot of money to both make and advertise. These things give an impression that the films are no longer of value or they are products. Which they are of course. However where I differ now from my older self is that I no longer care. To expect another Alien, Druqks, what have you is only putting yourself in both a more negative and narrow mindset. This mindset is essentially a transformation from the way in which we observed media in childhood I think. We are advertised to believe that popularity and critical acclaim/award shows are the bar for success. This brings us back to the two or three groups of people. Those that hate advertising will likely see popularity, reviews, and awards as meaningless. Which is fine. However the problem with this is the abundant amounts of this thing you hate. Ads exist everywhere as well as popular culture. It is unavoidable. This conflicting reality is what causes the transformation. We see reality as wrong and therefore establish ourselves as elite. This elitism is the wolf in sheep clothing. After all our understanding of the horrors of capitalistic institutions and how they damage creativity, elitism is of the same beast. It drives us to be competitive over subjectivity and it drives us to find the flaws with the system. If popular culture will always exists, my new way of looking at this is that there is no point in spending energy complaining about a clearly flawed system. Rather like you just said Atop I will approach each film, album as an independent, at least as best I can. It doesn't matter that it wasn't as good as Alien. Alien will always be safe in my mind and in my collection. There was still something to be gained from the Prometheus experience and discussing the theories on the plot or the execution of the directing and writing can be done in a beneficial way that only adds to our imagination.
  10. Awepittance were you saying that anyone who enjoyed Prometheus is being dishonest? I'm not trying to have a go here, but I am curious how I am a troll. I'm just posting relevant information that i have been reading regarding the film that I found interesting. I don't like all this competitive opinions business. Disagreements are fine, but don't dismiss content just because my stance is different. I mean it doesn't really matter to me, but it seems like a narrow minded approach that limits the range of discussion we could be having about this film. It's also odd that you assume the content that I posted wasn't interesting to anyone else, despite having no clue what that the content discusses. Is this thread suppose to be a circle jerk of the side you agree with most? I just don't understand whats with all this competitive opinons stuffs.
  11. yeah i was wondering why Compson just keeps copying and pasting blocks of texts no one is reading, clever trolling if you ask me also lol at damon 'spinning' his abominably bad ending for Lost as 'not spelling it out' rather than 'stringing an audience along for a total anti climax' Shit no ones reading my posts!? lol
  12. these are just different perspectives on the alien universe, its not necessarily the right perspective but its interesting to think about
  13. David was seen consuming food and drinks at the start of the movie, which is amusing because I assume his body doesn't need the nutrient and no one is watching him eating. So I really don't understand why he does it anyway since it doesn't have the purpose of making other humans feel at ease by giving them impression that he's just like them (look at him, he eats like us!) also I like this interpretation of the film, which the infamous SomethingAwful film enthusiast SuperMechaGodzilla posted on their movie board.
  14. The Engineers could have easily helped guide the evolutionary path, the fact they visited the planet / cave paintings etc point toward this being a possibility.
  15. I don't think she was, perhaps she wanted to be though :P She couldn't live up to daddy's expectations. edit: btw I think thats why I enjoy going over the plot for this atm as opposed to Avengers or something. I want to be there again in that world.
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