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syd syside

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  1. Exactly... this is better than Avatar and could have been a giant leap in the right direction for hollywood but was at least a step in that direction.
  2. Thats good you are able to wipe the memory, still I don't understand why you would be reading the plot theories stuff if you haven't seen it.... can you seriously forget stuff by will? Completely agree Atop. That scene with David in the beginning, with the little sci fi sounds and whatnot... it was more futuristic than anything I had seen on film. First Alien and 2001 vibes.
  3. I enjoy watching films, even bad ones, too much to hate them. So I think this is probably the only valuable contribution to this thread so far. Good job, Hoodie. ^5 Damn... 1,327 posts that you read and thats the only thing of value you found? Have you seen the film? I thought the discussion two pages back on the plot was more interesting than something that could be referencing any film ever.
  4. The notion that Prometheus is as bad as the Phantom Menace is laughable to me... Phantom Menace is shot and paced like a tv show... regardless of any plot holes the atmosphere in Prometheus makes it already way better than PM. I'm all for deconstruction but needless comparisons to one of the worst disappointments ever is giving people who haven't seen it, the wrong idea. There's no Jar Jar Binks going on in this one. David in fact is a better character than any character in all the Star Wars prequels. I also liked the flute thing.
  5. I'm seeing the film in 3 hours in 3D. I'm making some marijuana food for the occasion. Getting quite sick of having to sneak smoke in the car before the film. Asymm that is the way to approach it I think. If advertising harms the film, then avoiding it is giving the creators respect. I can't admit to being very good at avoiding hype and whatnot, but I try and recognize trailers, reviews, etc as essentially meaningless and I try not to give them much thought. Generally the only aspect of a trailer I pay any attention to is the visual aesthetics. Dialogue and whatnot are always manipulated and condensed and plot points/money shots wasted. A short written synopsis and a minute long montage of the actors and visual aesthetics without using too many money shots would be ideal and refreshing in this age of condensed film trailers.
  6. Criticizing advertising always counts because the inherent structure of advertising/trailers does a disservice to the film unless its purely new content, like those viral videos which were cool. Just because Scott had control over the edit of the trailer doesn't mean he could have not made one. Unless you think trailers enrich the film somehow, I don't see how my point of view on this is controversial. After ones sees the film, whatever opinion you have is valid, but one has to question how our culture of advertising negatively affects the experience... seems there is a trade off to ensure profitability.
  7. Advertising is satan. Usually it's not done by the creative forces who actually made the film, but a 3rd party post-production studio. I was talking in the new Quentin Tarantino thread about this. His trailers always suck because his films don't translate at all to trailer form (his strength is unfolding a scene with long sequences of dialogue: ie opening of Inglorious Basterds). However humans aren't very patient and they need assurance for their hard earned cash, so things have to be marketed and spelled out. Ideally I would go to the theater one day and see a poster for Prometheus and I would buy my ticket that day and go check it out. Think about how much pre-thought goes into anticipating a film now. Trailers go through entire 2/3rds of films now, so as one anticipates they begin to fill in the blanks. Just as when people read a book and then go see the film, they are often disappointed in the film because it didn't match up with their own filling in the blanks (visual aesthetic etc). So my point in all this is, sure voicing ones opinion about poor marketing is cool, but does it actually promote a better form of marketing to the studios etc? Not really, because they already have you when you buy your movie ticket and sit down in the theater seats. They don't really care if you dislike the film cause the ending was spoiled in the trailer, they got your money. So there is no reason for a trailer to be subtle or vague to studios. The act of watching advertising though is a poor and pointless endeavor if you already know you are going to already pay for whatever it is. That's all I'm saying. Instead of going to see Prometheus and be disappointed as some of you were, you were spending your time anticipating this disappointment and analyzing it... then you go watch it, even though you know you are probably going to be disappointed. When you leave the theater disappointed people then say that too much was spoiled and it was as disappointing as they imagined. Spending all this time and energy over something due to advertising is a waste. Fuck advertising. Theres so many better ways to get informed on what films to check out or music. I think a lot of people have rose tinted glasses on older films because they are infact not subject to its advertising ever. Nor is most of the music people love on this website subject to advertising, at least in the sense of altering the artists creation to some easy to digest form for the masses.
  8. bravo! dilla forever!
  9. Don't apologize, I'm not like some dictator or something who requires people I know to like something if I'm gonna associate myself. Cause like I don't even know if I will like Prometheus, its kind of a mystery really. That's my whole point in this, its like we give way too much thought to stuff before we experience it... and I think that negatively changes the outcome when you do experience it. The other thing is like Sarah Palin or whoever, its like the news keeps talking about her, when shes got no job, shes not senator or whatever, shes not running for President or anything, shes just like a crazy lady, but the media and news keep talking about her and thats the idea with like the internet. Theres no real point to be just slaggin stuff that you have no investment or interest because you just taking your time away from things that you could enjoy. That's all I'm saying.
  10. Some people will respond with criticism any time. Just like there are people who can get angry at just about anything, or can be positive about anything. It's the type of glasses they're wearing. Just accept it. There just happens to be an awful lot of 'critical people by nature' in this place. (I'm trying to bring this as neutral as possible.) I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure it's that black and white. Like no ones just critical all the time and no ones positive all the time either... however I think with like the internets and such, theres just more people getting involved with things that they never be chuffed about. So now like we got all these people saying stuff about everything, when like in the past you'd just have your room, or like your stuffs some place and you'd have some friends over and you'd talk stuff and whatnot but itd be through a filter of understanding of the context of the situation. So like, if my friend Joe or whoever doesn't like country music, I'm not gonna bring up this new country musician I heard about next time I talk cause its just not something I know he's gonna wanna hear about. But now its like, theres a filter on things but theres just too much celebration and attention given to things that clearly aren't meant for the community or whoever generally contributes... its like instead looking deeper for more things and researching, we're all just too comfy and entertained with spreading our hate onto anything that passes through the filter, cause of like anonymously and stuff.
  11. An argument right, it must contain a point to be an argument, otherwise there can't be an opposing view. And how can you prove something with no real point? You're saying I have no point, but if you are reading through my posts and establishing I lack evidence to prove whatever it is I'm posting then it must contain a point...?
  12. uhh are you just meant to just say blandly nice things about everything even if you thought it sucked ? slagging stuff off is fun its not that serious + if they expect us to pay to watch/listen to their shit then at the very least we should be allowed to have opinions about it, right ? Living in some P.C fantasy world where nobody can say or think anything "negative" about anything is my idea of hell personally + if negativity is not allowed, positivity has no real meaning anyway does it ? There are degrees of negativity, my point is basically, if something is clearly shit, why it is shit should be apparent to you and anyone else with similar tastes. But if something shows potential or has bits that impressed you but lacked consistency then critical analysis is good because it helps you discover more about why that's the case. I have no problem with your review of the film or anyone else in this thread, my main confusion is towards the premature who proclaim something as good or bad before they even see it. Regardless of how accurate they may be with determining that, its a bit of a waste of time. Either the aesthetic, substance, and/or atmosphere is appealing enough that you would like to see more, or its just not your style and you won't give it another glance. Getting all fussed with other peoples opinions about it before you can contrast them with yours is just like, idk, ridiculous?
  13. people are just directing anger, rage, hate, whatever misplaced feelings they have throughout the day toward real things that actually matter, they're directing those feelings in an anonymous way toward something representative of a system they might not like, or something that irritates them. whatever. i doubt anyone in this thread that's been critical is really that serious about it. i know i'm not. i'll be there opening night to watch this thing and i'm sure i'll enjoy aspects of it and have a relatively mild reaction to the whole thing as it's just another muddled, transparent attempt to cash in on what used to be a meaningful experience that's been diluted down by corporate interests into something easy and boring and pretty. that's all movies are. the good ones are usually accidents where some aspect, as in the original alien or blade runner with the art direction, happens to shine through so strongly that we forget how bland the characters or story are. but then there are obviously things in the original movie to admire. the dirt on the ship, the way dallas is that resigned manager or boss you've had that just goes with it because he can't do anything else, the way there aren't any conventionally attractive people in the cast. i'm convinced that the integrity of film has dropped significantly since so much money is involved and it's probably miraculous that a movie like this got made at all, and i'm happy i live in a part of the world where i can watch attractive people run around and put life into an orderly context that it lacks in reality, all while surrounded by state of the art special effects and set pieces. so while i realize all that, i'm also going to make fun of it. Its very true that a lot of films today I have little to no interest in... though I am hesitant to say that its some kind of downward sign for films or something. I think in the moment, especially now with the internet and such, we are just way more aware of everything so, we notice more of crap stuff. But to say like that good films today are accidents, is just a kind of odd opinion I think. You have Tarantino, Coen Brothers, PTA, Lars, Wes Anderson perhaps, Tim and Eric (your avatar), Cameron, Kaufman, etc... I mean you saying that all these blokes just make good films currently cause of like they dropped hot water on themselves? for what it's worth i don't think anyone in that list besides the coens and pta have made a good film in at least a decade, if at all. tim and eric have made one film and it was pretty bad. and i mean those films are accidents because film is a pretty impossible medium to work in and have an artistic voice actually get through to an audience. ridley scott was basically just a hack for hire who happened to make two really amazing science fiction movies and i don't think his direction had as much to do with that as the art direction and design did. but also, it's the internet, we're going to complain about things. it's an outlet. i'm critical of a lot of stuff but at no point did i say i was an authority on anything. you can choose to place weight on my opinions or you can just construct an argument and we can discuss this stuff because i'm pretty sure that's what this board is for. What about Steve McQueen? Or other indie filmmakers? Shame and Hunger were both good films I thought. In regards to Tim and Eric, I never saw the movie, but I was talking about their work in general. Your argument seems to be suggestion that the corporate structural problem with media today makes it impossible for things to be good besides on accident. Tim and Eric make funny things on a big network TV show though, so like I just don't follow exactly. This board should be about creating a broader more richer culture in regards to music/film for a community by sharing creations or things we enjoy. Being critical should serve an intellectual purpose, not just be about blasting anything that floats on the screen.
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