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  1. 3 hours ago, Nil said:

    OOH is a super promising label, getting better with each and every release. I’ve yet to listen to that one though, thanks for the reminder.

    First I've heard of OOH but I'm digging this release a lot. Good chance it winds up on my end of year best list.

  2. Also not totally related to this thread but if you go back and listen to some of the work that the avant garde composers of the 20th century were writing many decades ago it makes most of the amateur electronic music coming out now sound very amateur and conservative indeed. It doesn't make it bad but I think we need to evaluate the kind of stuff we listen to on this board on its own terms and not spend too much time worrying how it measures up to more orthodox "classical" music.

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  3. 11 hours ago, Brian Dance said:

     Learning notation doesn't make you Debussy and I think people would be much more sympathetic to Clark's endeavours if he showed more humility.

    It seems like learning notation is considered inherently pretentious somehow in this thread. I didn't get the impression from his interview he was trying to put himself on the level of the classical masters with that claim.

    The problem with a lot of classical music genre hybrids is that people borrow the surface qualities of classical music without any of the richer harmonic & melodic development that makes the best classical music so enduring. Clark doesn't do much better than the others on this record but I'd still rather see him try something new than crank out yet another spin on his older IDM sound. I like that stuff but he's done plenty of that for those that want it.

  4. 2 hours ago, toaoaoad said:

    I had to ask myself why it bothered me so much, and the reason is I just really hate pretension. Tons of artists are pretentious of course, but it bothers me more I guess when it's an artist I originally liked, who showed a lot of promise but has made a series of choices that don't resonate with me (to put it politely). So it's that combo of... not only is he making terrible music but he's also inflating himself as this sort of genius about it. If that was any shit artist I wouldn't care because it happens all the time, but it's disappointing that it's Clark. I guess his music has always come across as a bit pretentious tho. But it just keeps getting worse and worse. 

    What is it that strikes you as pretentious? The music itself or what he's said about it in interviews?

    I've been a Clark fan since the beginning although I like some of his records much better than others. Classical music also makes up about half of my music listening time for the last 20 years. Most of the attempts I've heard to fuse classical and electronic music fall pretty flat in my opinion but he's succeeded better than most on this new album. And if it gets some techno heads to listen to Brahms all the better.

  5. FWIW I liked it just fine although I've mostly listened to it in the background. I listen to loads of classical music but I keep the traditional "classical" music in a different mental bucket than this sort of thing.

  6. On 3/26/2021 at 3:03 PM, thumbass said:

    Gonna dive into this later today, saw that pitchfork gave it a 6.1

    I give Pitchfork a 0.0. Assiging scores to art is dumb and pretending to do it with a fractional digit of precision is full on mouth breather.

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