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  1. @jaderpansen: hard to put my finger on it. sometimes something just makes Alco cringe. that was such a something

     

    aye, fair enough. anyway, "this is supposed to be a happy thread, let's not bicker and argue about who embarrassed who".

     

    i think it's safe to say by now that this release henceforth completes my "no1 ae" list to a holy trinity (lp5,draft, elseq). impeccable.

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    haven't watched that video but watmm collectively complaining about it makes me cringe a little

    * has flashback of ae live track-naming*

     

    *shudders*

     

    would you mind explaining why those (admittedly somewhat arbitrarily) made up referencing systems rub you in a way of being so pathetic? as i see it it was just a little game to get away from abstruse time specifications "41.45 min so cool", but whatevs.

     

     

     

    this relesase is beyod fantastic but i miss tracks like altibzz, sublimit, yjy ux and see on see.

     

    das because they're on different records, durr!

     

    wat you mean?

     

    nothing rly, sry.

  3. haven't watched that video but watmm collectively complaining about it makes me cringe a little

     

    k i do feel kinda bad now :I ... but fascistic "trve"-fanboiism and the fact the guy is still a kid aside: watch it. it is a bad review, in form and content. (imo.)

    this relesase is beyod fantastic but i miss tracks like altibzz, sublimit, yjy ux and see on see.

     

    das because they're on different records, durr!

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    dafuq is that leek and who does he think he is to feel the need to damp the webs with his frivolous opinions gilded with some endlessly ruminated info as "review"? i mean srsly what is it with kids nowadays having to publicize every fucking poop that crosses their minds online?! and others even upvoting it?! ... i feel like a grumpy asshole poking fun at the little guy but he's asking for it so very much :(... but i digress... so he listened to the thing ONCE in one sitting and then went on to inform the world of his impressions? i'm just lost here :/.

     

    You come off as if you are just upset that he said something you disagree with, so you say he should never express his opinions online. That sounds pretty bad. Conflicting opinions lead to truth. It's fine if you disagree with him, but if you do, you should maybe actually explain why you do and on what points like the posts beneath you did.

     

    Is your issue with the fact that he released a review after only having listened to it once? I guess that's somewhat valid, but the fact that these are just first impressions don't make his opinions worthless.

     

    yeah sorry i know it's a free world, i just don't get why just because you are free to express yourself you always should, especially in such a format if everything you have to say comes down to "yeh so i like melody, this track has some, next less so, hoo boy it's a long ass release". such impressions and analyses are rather easily attained yourself just by listening to some dang snippets and reading release notes. i just don't understand the narcissistic reflexes behind this "so yeah i made some completely trivial observations let's upload shit on the tubes". whatever. while i do feel his opinions are completely worthless it's not like i'm commenting on his video to hurt his feelings. goodspeed to him and you alike.

    (of course i agree about your conflicting opinions point, but tbh that's not what my criticism was about at all)

  5. dafuq is that leek and who does he think he is to feel the need to damp the webs with his frivolous opinions gilded with some endlessly ruminated info as "review"? i mean srsly what is it with kids nowadays having to publicize every fucking poop that crosses their minds online?! and others even upvoting it?! ... i feel like a grumpy asshole poking fun at the little guy but he's asking for it so very much :(... but i digress... so he listened to the thing ONCE in one sitting and then went on to inform the world of his impressions? i'm just lost here :/.

  6. haha yeah... the biggest asshole however was the probably unchangeable jumping trajectory...

     

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    those fuckign stages man D: urgh ..... also doppelganger randomly spawning within you... cool game. once i figured you gain your partner's lives for killing him in mode B i was able to beat it :).

  7. talk about old as fuck sports games, do any of you remember track & field 2 for NES?

    that game was pure crack lol, the godfather of snapping thumbs and mashing buttons

    was there ever a first track of field?

     

    fuuuuck that game was the death of me and my fingers! ... and some t-shirts, too, which i used to tighten around the tips of my thumb and trigger finger then rub dat shit on the A button to gain speed... it's weird to explain but worked well for me, less so for the cloth. problem was the thing was a present from a cousin who was fed up with it and noone had the manual so on some events i just had no fucking clue what to do like fucking high diving and horizontal bar eww... only 20 odd years later i managed to complete the olympic campaign for the first time with an emulator... not in my wildest dreams would i have imagined somehting like THIS was lurking inside the game:

     

     

    how freaking cool is that? and i even had a light gun D: ...

    also fondly remember being totally impressed by synthesised voices... like the grunts during arm wrestling lol, fucking hilarious:

     

     

    ah the memories. thanks!

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    (...) when it came time to the record they just hit record and jammed them out akin to how they do their live sets.

     

    Curious how others feel about this.

     

    on tracks like feed1, c7, eastre, TBM and pendulu c mayyybe... the rest? don't think so, no way in hell. i mean c'mon 13x0 is a fucking opera in itself...

     

     

    You could say the same thing about a huge chunk of AE_LIVE but that didn't stop them from doing it on the spot in front of an audience, no?

     

     

    well, the live set was incredibly detailed and ever morphing alright but pretty much "everything all of the time". elseq tracks feature intricate buildups, sidesteps, "drama", sequences of high density clashing with monolithic passages, tiny singular events vs. seemingly established patterns, sometimes the whole organism just breaks apart and reassembles (those infamous dropouts), in the intro of 13x0 step there's the echo of a rave riff escalating which hardly returns in the rest of the track, only in tiny fractures... sometimes it's actually the restraint that makes the release feel so very carefully laid out to me compared to the live set. could be wrong but that's just how it sounds to me. and like i already said: if you are right and the "actual" album / major release / whatever is in fact yet to come we're all winners anyway so whatevs i'm the happiest fanboi right now :3 edit: wait a sec that wasn't you right? lel XP anyway u are of the jammy faction U MUST BE ONE OF THEM!!

  9. (...) when it came time to the record they just hit record and jammed them out akin to how they do their live sets.

     

    Curious how others feel about this.

     

    on tracks like feed1, c7, eastre, TBM and pendulu c mayyybe... the rest? don't think so, no way in hell. i mean c'mon 13x0 is a fucking opera in itself...

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    There it is. The Pitchforks have spoken: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21950-elseq-1-5/

    imo "elseq" does not definitely sound like jams. this review is only echoing what lots of people on here have been taking for granted, that this release is autechre jamming or improvising or running software that's being controlled in real-time. it's certainly possible that this is true, or that at least some of the tracks employ such methods. but imo there is nothing about this music that is just so obviously "jams" like pitchfork and some peeps on this forum are suggesting and if it wasn't for the fact that sean has talked a lot about computers and spitting out albums in real time i'mnot sure what it is about this release that's justscreaming "this is just some edited jams by the electronica duo the 'chre."

     

    fact is we have no real idea about autechre's compositional processes. and this seems like a fairly deliberately contrived mystery on their part; for all their willingness to discuss software stuff or how they make albums by pressing record and jamming away, they also seem to walk back many of these claims and insist tracks are made meticulously note by note or sean will get pissed and tell people they don't know what they're talking about when they employ the term "generative." personally, i don't think they're being mysterious to construct some cool idm identity, i just think they're artists who don't wish to be pinned down by cheap shop talk in lame interviews.

     

    anyway, this pitchfork review is, unsurisingly, shit. there's no way some reviewer sat down, listened to 4 hours of autechre and just came to the conclusion that these are jams. the reviewer probably played elseq on his computer while browsing the internet to find things to write in his assignment and came up with "it's long" and "it's jams."

     

    love this bit: "the Brown and Booths violent squelches."

     

     

    (...) Progressions rather slow and not that abrupt as on their previous releases. (...)

     

    this applies to pretty much their whole output up to untilted, tho. even on exai the average number of distinct "parts" per track was 2~3 max... meandering tracks with shitloads of microvariation is pretty much what autechre is (with obvious exceptions). this release is not particularly jammy imo.

  11. what if pitchfork came up with an intelligent, generative algorithm that generates autechre album reviews using the data of relevant watmm threads and that review is the result?

     

    lol

  12. "(...) just two dudes taking pleasure in real-time collaborative music making. Which, in a way, might serve to deflate the futuristic vibe a little."

     

    mhm, yeah... right.

  13. i agree that despite the different styles it somehow sounds like from one sonic cloth, similar to lp5. exai was more eclectic / varicolored.

     

    edit: @NED

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