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  1. 27 minutes ago, Ayya Khema said:

    what MSM says and the reality are two different realities. Again, I invite you too look at the real ICU covid numbers.

    Here in canada, even during the peak, or even before covid, covid patient never overcrowded hospitals or the icu.

    I provided you with non-MSM links, not that that matters, as the CBC and Global source their reporting.

    Here in Ontario, critical care resources were definitely strained and overwhelmed

    https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/sciencebrief/critical-care-capacity-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/

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    From March 20, 2020 to October 31, 2021, 9,096 Ontarians have been admitted to intensive care units (ICUs) with COVID-19 related critical illness. The COVID-19 pandemic has strained Ontario’s critical care system. At the peak of wave 3, the number of patients on ventilators was over 180% of pre-pandemic historical averages. 

    The critical care system was able to accommodate this influx of patients by deferring surgeries and procedures, funding new ICU beds, identifying temporary surge space, team-based care models utilizing redeployed staff, and transferring patients between hospitals. This required effective collaboration and coordination across critical care system. 

    The critical care system does not currently have capacity to accommodate a surge as it did during waves 2 and 3 due to worsening staffing shortages, healthcare worker burnout, and health system recovery efforts. Public health measures to mitigate influxes of critically ill patients are needed. 

    Here is your premier admitting that the healthcare system is strained because of the nursing shortage:

     

    In Canada, even before the COVID19 outbreak, ICU beds were at 90% capacity(PDF)

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    A total of 3170 ICU beds were estimated capable of invasive ventilation across Canada [15]. Before the outbreak of
    COVID-19, the hospital bed occupancy was around 90% [14].

    In Canada, we had 3,170 ICU beds.

    Since the start of the pandemic, approximately 16,975 people have been admitted to ICU as a result of COVID-induced hospitalization.

    So ignoring the 90% occupancy rate before COVID, the pandemic has definitely overwhelmed our hospital and critical care infrastructure.

    In Quebec, yes it may be true you left old people to drop like flies in nursing homes and long-term care facilities at the start, but hospitals are running out of room, as illustrated by the articles above.

    1 hour ago, Ayya Khema said:

    the lack of hospitals place have been a issue since we are kids. the health system is in a crisis since the early 2000's

    So we have a lack of hospitals, a global pandemic of a virus with high communicability, and poor measures at the onset to address the problem, and you can't add those three up to see that hospitals will obviously be strained?

     

     

  2. 26 minutes ago, Ayya Khema said:

    in canada, at least here in quebec, the hospitals are not even close nor were not even close at the peak of the pandemy of being overwhlemed by covid patients. iirc, one can track the hospitalisation in USA per groups. would be interesting to know as in today the real numbers of covid case that require hospitalisation. at the end of this winter, irrc the numers showed about 1% of the ICU having covid patients, probably now its more.

    Lancet journal just today publiched yet another article that show that vaccination doesnt reduce transmission. 

    if you think that in order to beat this virus, the only solution is vaccinate the entire planet every 6 months, well its over. Society will never restore. You have at least 20% (im pretty sure more and more people wont accept the boosters) that will never take the vaccine. 

    yep, herd immunity. long time the media havent talked about it. 

     

    The article I linked to about herd immunity was from like a month or two ago, not long at all. And hardly the only one.

    Link to the lancet research article? This one shows that while vaccinated individuals with the delta variant still transmit, they likely have a faster viral load decline, and thus vaccination combined with quarantine is a useful approach in slowing the spread. As well, vaccination reduces the risk of severe infections: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext#seccestitle70

     

    Quebec was definitely worried about running out of critical care beds. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/hospitals-capacity-issues-struggle-covid-1.5868570

    https://globalnews.ca/news/8198604/quebec-alberta-covid-patients-help/

    And we know that ICU beds are limited resources in Canada.

    You've said you're ok with the vaccine, and I've explained to you the mandate of the two ministries most responsible for protecting Canadians, so why do you continue to argue against it? Wouldn't you rather not have to deal with severe COVID infections, or the chance of dealing with them, sooner rather than later?

     

  3. 7 hours ago, Ayya Khema said:

    I wont continue the discusion here. I hope I havent offended anyone. I realize that the sheep video was not of good taste even if the video still showed the changing narrative towards the efficacy of vaccine to protect against transmission rendering this whole mandate vaccine insane. Actually, I'm ok with the vaccine, just not with the mandates and I have the right to my opinion and others to theirs. 

    see you guys over at the music forums 

    The problem is that because of the severity and transmission of COVID, people infected who aren't vaccinated take up significant resources in the hospitals and other healthcare facilities that could be put to better use. We know that the vaccines don't prevent transmission 100%, but they reduce it significantly, and we also know that the vaccines reduce severity of symptoms.

    Vaccine hesitancy has a significant impact on the general health and safety of the Canadian public, and since resources (doctors, nurses, paramedics) are already understaffed, it makes much more sense to mandate vaccination to increase protection of the public. Since protecting the health and safety of Canadians is the mandate of the Minister of Public Safety and Minister of Health, and because of the aforementioned strain on medical resources, those ministers are going to choose the option that is most viable to protect Canadians.

    Will we ever achieve herd immunity? Who knows - but vaccine hesitancy will definitely delay any chance we have at returning to a new normal.

    https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/what-is-herd-immunity-and-how-can-we-achieve-it-with-covid-19

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  4. 9 hours ago, trying to be less rude said:

     

    11 hours ago, chenGOD said:

    Maskless at a distance well past the recommended minimum for social distancing, with proper ventilation. Risk of infection was minimal,

    i disagree, given the duration and it being a debate

     

    I mean, he didn’t get infected because of the social distancing and proper ventilation and airflow, so I’d say the risk was mitigated. 
     

     

    9 hours ago, trying to be less rude said:
    11 hours ago, chenGOD said:

    we can assume that Biden would have received the same treatment that Trump got.

    i'm not sure what you mean by this.  i can say that biden submitted himself to the debate's mandated testing, while trump coincidentally got himself out of it by being late. but i'm not sure what you're getting at.

    I mean Biden would have received the same expensive treatment that Trump got when Trump got COVID-19.

    9 hours ago, trying to be less rude said:
    11 hours ago, chenGOD said:

    the deliberate part will be very hard to prove in court by the way, and since you need to have the mental component for a crime to be committed...

    i agree, and i am not guessing. there are now multiple indicators that make it look as though trump did it deliberately.

    I guess I should have asked for this first to avoid any confusion on my part. Can you link to some?

     

    9 hours ago, trying to be less rude said:

    exposing biden to covid 1 month before the election ranks up there with the worst. it's not ok for a president to knowingly expose an opponent to a potentially lethal contagion. that is fucked up shit.

     

    The numerous counts of actual treason, money laundering for foreign entities, using the office of the president for personal gain while in office and of course involvement in the attempted coup I’d say rank higher. 

     

    9 hours ago, trying to be less rude said:

    exposure to a pathogen is not usually viewed this way, but in some contexts, it can be. knowingly exposing someone to a pathogen can be murder.

    The link you provided doesn’t say anything like that (and yes it can be a crime), but again the key here is knowingly. Theoretically, if anyone were to attempt to prosecute him for it, they’d probably go with wilful blindness as opposed to actual knowledge, but again, it would be difficult to prove, precisely because of the mitigation measures in place already. 
    It would be an interesting trial though, could the organizers of the event be charged as accessories? Reckless endangerment? 

     

    9 hours ago, trying to be less rude said:

    the incident is not isolated from its context

    Not in the court of public opinion for sure, but in a court of law, it would take a hell of an argument to prove the pattern of criminality. 
    We need an actual lawyer. LOL Alzado where are you??? Does it work like beetlejuice, if I say his name three times will he appear?

    LOL Alzado, LOL Alzado, LOL Alzado!

    Edit: for the record, I think trump is a despicable waste of oxygen, but I think that whatever DA office is going after him should concentrate on the more serious and/or easier to prove charges. 

  5. 1 hour ago, Ayya Khema said:

    there's no paramedic program in quebec that takes a year,.paramedic school is 3 years. nursing is the same. You can go the university and become a super nurse, and you can go to university and become a super paramedic. Then nurses can go do a master. probably less then 5% of nurse have a master.

    In college, nurses might take a couple more biology class. but to claim that they know oh so much more then paramedic would be generally false.

    but really, who cares? 

     

     

     

     

    Yes i stand corrected, the requirements have gone up to 3 years for paramedics.

    Do you think you could pass the nurse licensing exam administered by the Quebec Order of Nurses (of course Quebec has to have their own standards body lol)?

    For the rest of Canada becoming an RN is a 4 year program at university. No one cares except that you're holding out as an authority because of your training. Despite said training, you can't seem to comprehend that the "information" you're providing is misleading.

  6. 37 minutes ago, trying to be less rude said:

    hard disagree. debate means vocalizing maskless for 90 minutes, sometimes heatedly. biden's lucky he didn't get covid, and it's a testament to the ventilation system.

     

    it's a huge deal. like, you're breaking my brain rn. i'm not cool with trump exposing his opponent to covid, deliberately. especially 1 month before the election. and in the context of an overarching coup campaign, there's no making excuses. this is just dark, despotic, heinous stuff.

    Maskless at a distance well past the recommended minimum for social distancing, with proper ventilation. Risk of infection was minimal, and we can assume that Biden would have received the same treatment that Trump got.

    When compared to the other crimes Trump has been accused of (the deliberate part will be very hard to prove in court by the way, and since you need to have the mental component for a crime to be committed...), this is not a big deal, and there are much more serious things to go after Trump. Like I said, is it douchey and something to be not cool with, absolutely, but it is not a big deal compared to the numerous other crimes Trump is accused of.

     

  7. 36 minutes ago, trying to be less rude said:

    t's a big deal that trump seems to have deliberately exposed biden to covid 1 month before the election.

    If you look at the position of the podiums on stage for the first debate, they are clearly more than 6 feet apart. So is it assholish of Trump? Sure, but is it important news, not really.

  8. 13 hours ago, Ayya Khema said:

    in canada, paramedic school is just as hard as being a nurse.

    Most paramedic programs are 1 or 2 years (depending on province, in Ontario they are 2 years, in Quebec they are between 1 and 3).  In order to become a registered nurse, the program is 4 years. A practical nurse on the other hand is indeed a 2 year program, but the responsibilities and differences between the two is quite large, as well as the salaries.

    This isn't calling you stupid by the way, just clarifying a few things.

  9. Much like some boast about no Facebook, I’m proud to say that I’ve never had a Spotify account. 
    With all this weapons investing, I’m even prouder. 

    On 11/23/2021 at 2:43 PM, Audioblysk said:

    Good art should be cranked out in less than a week. 

     

    All this talk of 'magnum opuses' and 'masterpieces' are bullshit. It should be a cut and dry 2:30 mostly centered around an 808 sample, autotuned vocals about eating ass and random corporate jingles playing every once in a while. All other music is the equivalent to shaking it more than 3 times at the urinal or double dipping a chip in some salsa at a party. 

    2:30 is generous. 

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  10. 4 hours ago, user said:

    Yeah, the same challenges of testing and distribution. And manufacturing. And convincing people to actually take the medicine. And unforeseen circumstances. Molnupiravir won't be the end of this pandemic. I think the end of this pandemic will probably come in the form of the distractions that a myriad of riots and localized civil wars will provide. Up until recently I was convinced things would be better at some point but I've lost all faith, the tail of this pandemic will see us into the next catastrophe. We're fucked.

    The testing seems to be moot at this point, the effectiveness doesn't seem to be in doubt. Distribution will be the developed countries first, just like the vaccines. I agree it won't be the end of the pandemic. In fact, while this is a good tool when used responsibly in conjunction with a vaccination program, I'm afraid this will be another excuse for anti-vaxxers to not take the vaccine. At this point, I think we should strap them down Clockwork Orange style and force feed the little babies.

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  11. https://www.newyorker.com/science/medical-dispatch/how-will-the-covid-pills-change-the-pandemic

     

    In case it's paywalled for some.

    Spoiler

    How Will the COVID Pills Change the Pandemic?

    Dhruv Khullar

    In March, 2020, researchers at Emory University published a paper about a molecule called NHC/EIDD-2801. At the time, there were no treatments available for the coronavirus. But NHC/EIDD-2801, the researchers wrote, possessed “potency against multiple coronaviruses,” and could become “an effective antiviral against SARS-CoV-2.” A few days later, Emory licensed the molecule to Ridgeback Biotherapeutics, a Miami-based biotechnology company which had previously developed a monoclonal antibody for Ebola. Ridgeback partnered with the pharmaceutical giant Merck to accelerate its development.

    The Emory researchers named their drug molnupiravir, after Mjölnir—the hammer of Thor. It turns out that this was not hyperbole. Last month, Merck and Ridgeback announced that molnupiravir could reduce by half the chances that a person infected by the coronavirus would need to be hospitalized. The drug was so overwhelmingly effective that an independent committee asked the researchers to stop their Phase III trial early—it would have been unethical to continue giving participants placebos. None of the nearly four hundred patients who received molnupiravir in the trial went on to die, and the drug had no major side effects. On November 4th, the U.K. became the first country to approve molnupiravir; many observers expect that an emergency-use authorization will come from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in December.

    Oral antivirals like molnupiravir could transform the treatment of COVID-19, and of the pandemic more generally. Currently, treatments aimed at fighting COVID—mainly monoclonal antibodies and antiviral drugs like remdesivir—are given through infusion or injection, usually in clinics or hospitals. By the time people manage to arrange a visit, they are often too sick to receive much benefit. Molnupiravir, however, is a little orange pill. A person might wake up, feel unwell, get a rapid COVID test, and head to the pharmacy around the corner to pick up a pack. A full course, which needs to start within five days of the appearance of symptoms, consists of forty pills—four capsules taken twice a day, for five days. Merck is now testing whether molnupiravir can prevent not just hospitalization after infection but also infection after exposure. If that’s the case, then the drug might be taken prophylactically—you could get a prescription when someone in your household tests positive, even if you haven’t.

    Molnupiravir is—and is likely to remain—effective against all the major coronavirus variants. In fact, at least in the lab, it works against any number of RNA viruses besides SARS-CoV-2, including Ebola, hepatitis C, R.S.V., and norovirus. Instead of targeting the coronavirus’s spike protein, as vaccine-generated antibodies do, molnupiravir attacks the virus’s basic replication machinery. The spike protein mutates over time, but the replication machinery is mostly set in stone, and compromising that would make it hard for the virus to evolve resistance. Once it’s inside the body, molnupiravir breaks down into a molecule called NHC. As my colleague Matthew Hutson explained, in a piece about antiviral drugs published last year, NHC is similar to cytosine, one of the four “bases” from which viral RNA is constructed; when the coronavirus’s RNA begins to copy itself, it slips into cytosine’s spot, in a kind of “Freaky Friday” swap. The molecule evades the virus’s genetic proofreading mechanisms and wreaks havoc, pairing with other bases, introducing a bevy of errors, and ultimately crashing the system.

    A drug that’s so good at messing with viral RNA has led some to ask whether it messes with human DNA, too. (Merck’s trial excluded pregnant and breast-feeding women, and women of childbearing age had to be on contraceptives.) This is a long-standing concern about antiviral drugs that introduce genomic errors. A recent study suggests that molnupiravir, taken at high doses and for extended periods, can, in fact, introduce mutations into DNA. But, as the biochemist Derek Lowe noted, in a blog post for Science, these findings probably don’t apply directly to the real-world use of molnupiravir in COVID patients. The study was conducted in cells, not live animals or humans. The cells were exposed to the drug for more than a month; even at the highest doses, it caused fewer mutations than were created by a brief exposure to ultraviolet light. Meanwhile, Merck has run a battery of tests—both in the lab and in animal models—and found no evidence that molnupiravir causes problematic mutations at the dose and duration at which it will be prescribed.

    With winter approaching, America is entering another precarious moment in the pandemic. Coronavirus cases have spiked in many European countries—including some with higher vaccination rates than the U.S.—and some American hospitals are already starting to buckle under the weight of a new wave. Nearly fifty thousand Americans are currently hospitalized with COVID-19. It seems like molnupiravir is arriving just when we need it.

    It isn’t the only antiviral COVID pill, either. A day after the U.K. authorized Merck’s drug, Pfizer announced that its antiviral, Paxlovid, was also staggeringly effective at preventing the progression of COVID-19 in high-risk patients. The drug, when taken within three days of the onset of symptoms, reduced the risk of hospitalization by nearly ninety per cent. Only three of the nearly four hundred people who took Paxlovid were hospitalized, and no one died; in the placebo group, there were twenty-seven hospitalizations and seven deaths. Paxlovid is administered along with another antiviral medication called ritonavir, which slows the rate at which the former drug is broken down by the body. Like Merck, Pfizer is now examining whether Paxlovid can also be used to prevent infections after an exposure. Results are expected early in 2022. (It’s not yet known how much of a difference the drugs will make for vaccinated individuals suffering from breakthrough infections; Merck’s and Pfizer’s trials included only unvaccinated people with risk factors for severe disease, such as obesity, diabetes, or older age. Vaccinated individuals are already much less likely to be hospitalized or die of COVID-19.)

    Paxlovid interrupts the virus’s replication not by messing with its genetic code but by disrupting the way its proteins are constructed. When a virus gets into our cells, its RNA is translated into proteins, which do the virus’s dirty work. But the proteins are first built as long strings called polypeptides; an enzyme called protease then slices them into the fragments from which proteins are assembled. If you can’t cut the plywood, you can’t build the table, and Paxlovid blunts the blade. Because they employ separate mechanisms to defeat the virus, Paxlovid and molnupiravir could, in theory, be taken together. Some viruses that lead to chronic infections, including H.I.V. and hepatitis C, are treated with drug cocktails to prevent them from evolving resistance against a single line of attack. This approach is less common with respiratory viruses, which don’t generally persist in the body for long periods. But combination antiviral therapy against the coronavirus could be a subject of study in the coming months, especially among immunocompromised patients, in whom the virus often lingers, allowing it the time and opportunity to generate mutations.

    Merck will be producing a lot of molnupiravir. John McGrath, the company’s senior vice-president of manufacturing, told me that Merck began bolstering its manufacturing capacity long before the Phase III trial confirmed how well the drug worked. Normally, a company assesses demand for a product, then brings plants online slowly. For molnupiravir, Merck has already set up seventeen plants in eight countries across three continents. It now has the capacity to produce ten million courses of treatment by the end of this year, and at least another twenty million next year. It expects molnupiravir to generate five to seven billion dollars in revenue by the end of 2022.

    How much will all these pills soften the looming winter surge? As has been true throughout the pandemic, the answer depends on many factors beyond their effectiveness. The F.D.A. could authorize molnupiravir within weeks, and Paxlovid soon afterward. But medications only work if they make their way into the body. Timing is critical. The drugs should be taken immediately after symptoms start—ideally, within three to five days. Whether people can benefit from them depends partly on the public-health infrastructure where they live. In Europe, rapid at-home COVID tests are widely available. Twenty months into the pandemic, this is not the case in much of the U.S., and many Americans also lack ready access to affordable testing labs that can process PCR results quickly.

    Consider one likely scenario. On Monday, a man feels tired but thinks little of it. On Tuesday, he wakes up with a headache and, in the afternoon, develops a fever. He schedules a COVID test for the following morning. Two days later, he receives an e-mail informing him that he has tested positive. By now, it’s Friday afternoon. He calls his doctor’s office; someone picks up and asks the on-call physician to write a prescription. The man rushes to the pharmacy to get the drug within the five-day symptom-to-pill window. Envision how the week might have unfolded for someone who’s uninsured, elderly, isolated, homeless, or food insecure, or who doesn’t speak English. Taking full advantage of the new drugs will require vigilance, energy, and access.

    Antivirals could be especially valuable in places like Africa, where only six per cent of the population is fully vaccinated. As they did with the vaccines, wealthy countries, including the U.S. and the U.K., have already locked in huge contracts for the pills; still, Merck has taken steps to expand access to the developing world. It recently granted royalty-free licenses to the Medicines Patent Pool, a U.N.-backed nonprofit, which will allow manufacturers to produce generic versions of the drug for more than a hundred low- and middle-income countries. (Pfizer has reached a similar agreement with the Patent Pool; the company also announced that it will forgo royalties for Paxlovid in low-income countries, both during and after the pandemic.) As a result, a full course of molnupiravir could cost as little as twenty dollars in developing countries, compared with around seven hundred in the U.S. “Our goal was to bring this product to high-, middle-, and low-income countries at fundamentally the same time,” Paul Schaper, Merck’s executive director of global pharmaceutical policy, told me. More than fifty companies around the world have already contacted the Patent Pool to obtain a sublicense to produce the drug, and the Gates Foundation has pledged a hundred and twenty million dollars to support generic-drug makers. Charles Gore, the Patent Pool’s executive director, recently said that, “for large parts of the world that have not got good vaccine coverage, this is really a godsend.” Of course, the same challenges of testing and distribution will apply everywhere.

     

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  12. On 11/15/2021 at 11:40 PM, J3FF3R00 said:

    Got my booster today! I felt like a superhero right after. Another safety milestone. Doing my part. 
    My first 2 doses (March/April) were Pfizer but kicked up the booster vibe to moderna. 
    No real side effects other than a sore arm. I also have a very low-level (barely noticeable) queasy, metallic tongue feeling almost like when you do LSD.

    Any of the other good bits of doing LSD come along with that? ?

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  13. 10 hours ago, auxien said:

    yeah, not terribly surprising but nonetheless gross. i’m curious if there’a the possibility for mistrial issues or something given the judge’s….ahem, attitude.

    That interpretation of the weapons charge is a fucking travesty. The whole Wisconsin legislation on minors in possession is fucking awful.

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