kokoon Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 also shoots 1080p 24/25/30, 720p 50/60!!! it features a brand new 19-point AF system it has a 100% viewfinder with 1.0 magnification! Nikon D300 killer? http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/E7D/E7DA.HTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 oh, and three new lenses: EF-S 18-135mm 3.5-5.6 IS EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 "MSRP: $1,699" that's surprisingly low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 yep, good price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid1 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I've been concidering getting into video production and photography mostly to support albums I make. This is definatly within my price range, but would this be over/under kill for a noob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 i think this would be perfect for that. unless, of course, you want a full-frame body. but i don't think you really do. get the 7D and the EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS USM lens and you're set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Super lurker ultra V12 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 does it have an internet browser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaen Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 *drools* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mirezzi Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Yep, this is a game changer. With the announcement of the 7D, Jim Jannard was complaining about Canon's business model...meanwhile, his "Epic" and "Scarlet" probably won't be released for another 10 years, which is more or less why every Japanese company has probably laughed about the success of the RED. Anyhow, I'll be getting one of these in March or so...woo! I spent $6,000 a couple years ago to get what this camera can do for less than $2000. Just...wow. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOCfan Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 It is a lovely camera, but I'm wondering how long the major manufacturers are going to go on cramming ever larger MP counts on to APS-C sensors, given the problems with noise that arise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goffer Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 meh.... crop sensor ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I'm interested in video, specifically the 5D Mark II... is this better than that camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 I'm interested in video, specifically the 5D Mark II... is this better than that camera? 1. the APS-C sensor size is much closer to the 35mm cinema film than the full frame sensor is. 2. this camera can shoot in 1080p framerates 24, 25, 30 (5Dmk2 only in 30) and 720p 50 and 60 fps. you know, 60fps. 5Dmk2 can't. 3. EF-S lens that this camera takes are much cheaper than EF lens the full frame bodies (5Dmk2) take. but here you can also use the more expensive (and better) EF lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I'm interested in video, specifically the 5D Mark II... is this better than that camera? 1. the APS-C sensor size is much closer to the 35mm cinema film than the full frame sensor is. 2. this camera can shoot in 1080p framerates 24, 25, 30 (5Dmk2 only in 30) and 720p 50 and 60 fps. you know, 60fps. 5Dmk2 can't. 3. EF-S lens that this camera takes are much cheaper than EF lens the full frame bodies (5Dmk2) take. but here you can also use the more expensive (and better) EF lens. Yeah I gathered all of that from the article, and that all sounds great, but the actual video quality seems a bit less then what I have seen with the Mark II... also this being less money, makes me have a double take. I'm more interested in video quality than frame-rate etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 well, the difference in sensor sizes is quite big. meaning the 5Dmk2 will be always better in terms of low-light sensitivity and it will also provide a more shallow DOF with the same aperture size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremymacgregor87 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 certainly a 1000D killer. fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goffer Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I'm not too fond with this whole adding-video-to-a-DSLR craze... DSLR's seem to be going more towards p&s with all this video, swivel screen, MP nonsense. This does look like a nice peice of hardware though and will definitely give the D300s a run for it's money. I'm curied to see the side by side when it comes to noise. I guess maybe they are just running out of technology.... "well we cant fit anymore megapixels on this tiny ass sensor... hmmm... how about some of that video stuff!" I just want to see a fullframe sensor in a lightweight body... my D700 is awesome, and I love it to bits but the damn thing weighs a ton. Nikon has been bugging me lately... they keep regurgitation bodies and all I want are some decent fast primes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blicero Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 i wish i knew what all of those numbers and letters meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 I'm not too fond with this whole adding-video-to-a-DSLR craze... DSLR's seem to be going more towards p&s with all this video, swivel screen, MP nonsense. This does look like a nice peice of hardware though and will definitely give the D300s a run for it's money. I'm curied to see the side by side when it comes to noise. I guess maybe they are just running out of technology.... "well we cant fit anymore megapixels on this tiny ass sensor... hmmm... how about some of that video stuff!" I just want to see a fullframe sensor in a lightweight body... my D700 is awesome, and I love it to bits but the damn thing weighs a ton. Nikon has been bugging me lately... they keep regurgitation bodies and all I want are some decent fast primes. wat, you have a D700 you lucky fuck now your photos's dof makes sense... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goffer Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 also might make sense since i've been shooting primarily at f1.2 and 1.4 I had a d300 then found a deal for a d700 refurb from B&H for $1900 and jumped on that (ended up having a shutter count of 2 lol).... ended up selling my d300 for a small profit along with all my DX glass and havent looked back since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 can't the d700 take both crop and ff lenses? or is that d3... i also shoot mostly at 1.4, but it's a different thing on a crop sensor. anyways, i'm not really after a ff body, i don't think i can afford the glass. there are some very nice canon crop lenses (like the 17-55 f/2.8 IS USM and the 10-22), that are reasonably priced, so that's what i'm aiming for. so a nice crop body like the 7D is definitely something i'd be interested in, once i feel the need to move up from the 40D, which i currently really enjoy shooting with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goffer Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 yes it can take both crop and ff lenses, with a crop lens in FF mode I get crazy vignetting. If I use a crop lens in crop mode it cuts my mega pixels down to 5. I sold my beloved crop body tokina 11-16mm 2.8 but my 20mm is plenty wide on FF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mirezzi Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Adding video to DSLR cameras is awesome and the 7D should be a game changer in that regard. Years ago, I made a short film with a Canon XHA1. I then attached a 35mm adapter (Letus Extreme) so that I could make use of 'full frame' 35mm Nikkor primes. The results were outstanding, but the work that went into lugging the gear around was really prohibitive and the light loss from the adapter itself was problematic. We ended up blowing fuses in the apartment building because in order to achieve good exposure (Eg. the sweet spot in a range between F4-F5.6), many of the setups demanded 5K-10K loads from the lights we were using. With this new move toward DSLR cameras, the light loss is no longer an issue and the price of the gear necessary to do all this is incredibly cheap. The cropped sensor issue is a complicated one, but in essence, the sensor on the 7D (or the RED for that matter) mimicks S35, so for cinematographers who think in film terms (PL mount / cinema lenses), this is a welcome shift in technology since full frame 35mm cinematography is, hmmmmm, "interesting" to wrap your head around. Furthermore, the incredibly shallow depth of field makes for very difficult focus pulls and then there's the issue of vignetting. All told, IMHO, the 7D is good great news for inde and low/no-budget filmmakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goffer Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 I agree it's awesome but so far the way it has been implemented has been poor, at least with models up to this point from both Canon and Nikon. We shall see how this one goes... I know the D300s has already had some problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mirezzi Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Oh god yes. The D90 is a giant pile of shit for video and the 5D Mark II has a ton of problems, too. In essence, though, the 7D seems to have addressed the majority of the problems. -Cropped Sensor (helps eliminate vignetting, "jello," difficult focus pulls, emulates S35) - EXCELLENT -Improved Mic / Audio (was never essential to inde filmmakers to begin with) - GOOD -Wider Variety of Frame Rates (1080p 24/25/30p and 720p 50/60p) - FUCKING AWESOME -Manual Controls - FUCKING AWESOME AND ESSENTIAL/NECESSARY -Improved Codec (meh, improved data rate, but it's still H264 which won't make color correction a dream, but it's still perfectly suitable for pushing a flat image around) - MEH / GOOD I'm probably forgetting something, but yeah, this SHOULD be an enormous improvement over the D90, D300, GH1, and even the 5D Mark II. Most the movies I've seen from the 5D Mark II, due to the full frame sensor, required the subjects to never be moving for fear of "jello" and/or loss of focus. Then again, there are a LOT of total nub idiots running around the internets trying to show off shallow depth compositions in otherwise shitty or useless "films". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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