cloudbreaker Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 May be jazzband but I could find no previous threads. Anyone had a go with one of these? Construction good? How are arcade buttons as midi triggers? (I'd imagine you could get a good bit faster on these than more traditional midi triggers (unless you're araabmuzik, of course)) Yada yada. http://www.midifighter.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I've used this as a midi controller before - (and here's joe using the same usb converter for an ol' skool ps1 dual shock at a live gig) And it worked a charm, so yeah I can't imagine you having any issues with those .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardcode Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 wow dude ever heard of image resizing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 That photo aint hosted on my site innit gov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 seems kinda boring... Why is a joystick a good type of interface, beyond the obvious novelty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Well for me it was cos I had everything at hand and didn't have any money to shell out for a midi controller. Though other than that why you'd favour one I don't know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardcode Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 all the site shows is panels with buttons not even any sticks that could be interpreted as analog input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudbreaker Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 all the site shows is panels with buttons not even any sticks that could be interpreted as analog input right, they're simply just an alternative to buttons or pads... you could, oh... fire midi events with them :) For those of us that grew up in the arcade that would translate to pretty fast event firing. *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardcode Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 no shit, my point was that arcades have joysticks too, and the analog input from a joystick could easily substitue as a knob. theres only so much you can do with on/off switches how are you supposed to do a filter sweep for example you could do one with a hadouken. just the buttons only these things are pretty useless sorry to step on your spam campaign cause u obviously are someone behind these and are trying to sell them, maybe you should try and implement analog controls with joysticks then they might be worht something than just some cool looking dj toy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 you're presuming the joysticks are analog. some will be, some won't be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudbreaker Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 no shit, my point was that arcades have joysticks too, and the analog input from a joystick could easily substitue as a knob. theres only so much you can do with on/off switches how are you supposed to do a filter sweep for example you could do one with a hadouken. ... every device need not do everything, and preferably won't (in my book at least). Perhaps you could do your filter sweeps with something else, eh? sorry to step on your spam campaign cause u obviously are someone behind these and are trying to sell them, maybe you should try and implement analog controls with joysticks then they might be worht something than just some cool looking dj toy RIGHT. SPOILT MY LOOT BRO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 left the loot out on the counter and it spoilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardcode Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 and you could probably use something else to perform the simple act of a button press instead of some glorified hpster arcade looking thing with shiny lights, what's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudbreaker Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 and you could probably use something else to perform the simple act of a button press instead of some glorified hpster arcade looking thing with shiny lights, what's your point? Right, that's completely valid. My point is that you can't just dismiss the thing as completely useless just because there are other things that do it. And some people like custom things... and build it yourself kits... and things that look neat. These traits don't make something inherently bad. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest never the machine forever Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I just finished up a DIY midifighter-inspired controller, powered by an Arduino. 12 buttons and 6 knobs & sliders (total). I tried to put 6 more buttons (18 total) using the analog inputs, which shorted the pots and gave a higher ADC value to trigger additional midi notes, but the current dips through all the other knobs so the values wonk out temporarily. What did work was using one of the digital inputs as a switch: when it's switched on, the knobs and sliders send one note, and they send different values if the switch is in another position. This effectively doubles the amount of inputs it has, bringing it to 24 (working) buttons and 12 knobs/sliders. I also laid the interface out in a pattern to mimic the ABL2 interface so I could easily acid. Excluding the reusable Arduino, it cost me about 30 bucks and two days. Fucking ABL2, though... Edit: uses big fat arcade buttons too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 post pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Also, it sounds very interesting and I'd like to possibly make one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest never the machine forever Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Also, it sounds very interesting and I'd like to possibly make one. Sure, it's in a box now to be brought back to campus, so within the next few days. Writing that made me realize I could invert the wiring for the analog buttons. It'd short the pot to ground so it wouldn't overdraw. Probably would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 great, whenever you get the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 30 bucks? I'm quite interested. I thought Japanese legit arcade buttons would be a bit more expensive than 30 dollars alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popejoy Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I like their sticker: http://store.djtechtools.com/collections/dj-gear/products/just-play-sticker-set I'm all for masking that apple logo while still exploiting its luminescence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest never the machine forever Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Sorry about the quality, my 1080p digital video camera apparently takes shitty pictures. The two highest "keys" aren't functioning properly, along with the 4 upper row. I used knockoff arcade style buttons, and they're meh. The action is fine, but it "snaps" too loudly. If I could redesign it, I'd probably use these or maybe even the real deal (their products seem a bit overpriced and this clearly isn't factory direct, you could probably find them cheaper). The Cintra boards and spacers I had laying around and worked fine. Very happy with the Cintra, it's light, easily workable, not-too-glossy not-too-dull and still holds a grip. The open sides were a byproduct of laziness, technicality, and DIY aesthetic. Hasn't and shouldn't be problematic. If you want schematics or code, just ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudbreaker Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Sorry about the quality, my 1080p digital video camera apparently takes shitty pictures. The two highest "keys" aren't functioning properly, along with the 4 upper row. I used knockoff arcade style buttons, and they're meh. The action is fine, but it "snaps" too loudly. If I could redesign it, I'd probably use these or maybe even the real deal (their products seem a bit overpriced and this clearly isn't factory direct, you could probably find them cheaper). The Cintra boards and spacers I had laying around and worked fine. Very happy with the Cintra, it's light, easily workable, not-too-glossy not-too-dull and still holds a grip. The open sides were a byproduct of laziness, technicality, and DIY aesthetic. Hasn't and shouldn't be problematic. If you want schematics or code, just ask. Pretty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 ya post it up! I'm curious about the midi implementation on the arduino. I have 2 laying around here. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest never the machine forever Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I used a modification of the code found here. It's attached. It uses two additional programs to interface with MIDI software: a serial to MIDI converter and a virtual MIDI port. It works surprisingly easy. I saw on hackaday yesterday a HID-compatable Arduino (your computer will recognize it as an interface device and not an Arduino). This is very interesting and removes the two programs from the interface chain. Again, if I had to rebuild this, I'd certainly use this Arduino derivative. MIDI_Controller.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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