Guest yikes Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 funny how the western press and american reaction is so hateful and knee jerk. i'm trying to remember what dude did to america that was so bad other than not playing ball with big oil and giving a lot of money to the poor and cheap oil to south america/cuba. sure he was a loud mouth and rather verbose with the commie rhetoric but i think his heart was in the right place. the Venezuelan's are claiming the cia had a hand in killing him with cancer as Mossad did with arafat. it's a stretch but the cia has done stranger and much more horrendous things in the past so who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Funny how he's lauded as a crusader of the poor but managed to amass a billion dollar fortune in the process... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Funny how he's lauded as a crusader of the poor but managed to amass a billion dollar fortune in the process... source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 I came to the conclusion that I'm perfectly content not having strong feelings either way about the guy. His government ran state propaganda, opposition was censored and demonized, thousands left when his supporters in government seized assets and property, the nation's wealth is dangerously dependent on oil, his foreign policy was reckless and inflammatory in tone, he squabbled with rival Latin American countries, etc. That said, there wasn't mass oppression, a ceasing of democratic elections, mass famine or economic chaos. He wasn't a dictator but he acted like a tyrant to some degree. He had legitimate support, even if achieved by direct policy aimed at pleasing the poor and punishing the rich. America has directly supported, if not literally put in power, far worst regimes in Latin America. My point? Well, America is technically a democracy with leaders with legitimate support achieved by policy. But it's a two-party system that favors corporations and special interests. It has woefully inefficient spending habits and literally just allowed insane spending cuts to occur so they could get back to political spin and blaming for their next elections. We're not much that better than Chavez' government. So yes, I'm glad he's gone in a sense that I hope for positive change there, but there's no way I can objectively call him a despot and demonize compared to the government I live under or most of us in the EU and elsewhere live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 i had a soft spot for Chavez until he endorsed Obama in 2012, ever since i'm pretty neutral on himnobody here besides maybe Yikes will have any idea why this is important, but i think ever since Chavez started inviting William Rodriguez into the country for special talks, the US took a different approach with him. Shit gets real when a leader the US hates starts promoting 9/11 theories that imply the US government was behind it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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