Israeli-Palestinian conflict

[ignatius]

31 minutes ago, usagi said:

nothing will change. congrats, you killed tens of thousands of innocent people to get the top Hamas guy. the circumstances that created and supported Hamas have not changed, have in fact been further entrenched, so someone else will just step in. you've done little to make Hamas a nonviable entity.

the only thing that could put a pause on the killing and force the parties back to the negotiating table is if a greater power makes that happen, and that's not likely when that power is in the pocket of one of those parties. I say again, at least half the responsibility for this mass murder is on the US because of its - not even silent - but open endorsement.

yeah.. it sucks.  there's been times when a president could get israel to walk back from the abyss and chill out but no one is doing that. reagan did it.. eisenhower too i think.. also, netanyahu is a complete asshole and psycho w/all the right wingers all too happy to use oct 7th as an excuse to accelerate the ethnic cleansing plans and grab more territory and erase more palestinians who seem to only be thought of as an inconvenience to israel.  it's a sick sick sick... everything. 

there's a lot of people, young people, who learned what america is over the last year. this is business as usual. korea, vietnam, SE asia in general... south america etc.. lot's of dead civilians. 

as for hamas.. yeah.. nothing will change w/the death of that guy. israel had already decapitated the organization. they'd killed the top leaders already months ago except for that guy. 

there's a lot of people speculating about israel's future and how they don't really have one. so many people have left. young people are still leaving. young jews in other countries aren't supportive.. they're losing a generation who they thought would be zionists. this USA liberal rabbi had a melt down of sorts about it. 

i'm not full of predictions.. anything can happen.. but israel is a rogue state at this point and USA is just giving them whatever they want... at least until the election.. then who knows wtf..  biden isn't going to back away from israel and harris isn't going to break from this policy in a hard way until after the election if at all.. 

 

[decibal cooper]

[eye]

Here's an IDF soldier smilingly and proudly confessing to shooting civilians in the head, legitimizing his actions through the bible.

A Belgian is now under investigation for this kind of war crimes. There are also American, French, German and Italian nationals in these 'elite units'. Sounds like the IDF is welcoming psychopaths.

 

Relate that to this story of medical personnel describing what they saw in Gaza:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/09/opinion/gaza-doctor-interviews.html

I worked as a trauma surgeon in Gaza from March 25 to April 8. I’ve volunteered in Ukraine and Haiti, and I grew up in Flint, Mich. I’ve seen violence and worked in conflict zones. But of the many things that stood out about working in a hospital in Gaza, one got to me: Nearly every day I was there, I saw a new young child who had been shot in the head or the chest, virtually all of whom went on to die. Thirteen in total.

At the time, I assumed this had to be the work of a particularly sadistic soldier located nearby. But after returning home, I met an emergency medicine physician who had worked in a different hospital in Gaza two months before me. “I couldn’t believe the number of kids I saw shot in the head,” I told him. To my surprise, he responded: “Yeah, me, too. Every single day.”

65 Doctors, Nurses and Paramedics: What We Saw in Gaza

44 doctors, nurses and paramedics saw multiple cases of preteen children who had been shot in the head or chest in Gaza.

63 doctors, nurses and paramedics observed severe malnutrition in patients, Palestinian medical workers and the general population.

52 doctors, nurses and paramedics observed nearly universal psychiatric distress in young children and saw some who were suicidal or said they wished they had died.

25 doctors, nurses and paramedics saw babies who had been born healthy return to hospitals and die from dehydration, starvation or infections caused by their malnourished mothers’ inability to breastfeed and a lack of infant formula and clean water.

53 doctors, nurses and paramedics saw many children suffering from easily preventable infections, some of whom died from them.

64 doctors, nurses and paramedics observed that even the most basic medical necessities, like soap and gloves, were usually unavailable in Gaza.