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3 minutes ago, thehauntingsoul said:
If I remember correctly, Sean was upset with them for crediting him directly, as he wanted to be credited as Autechre. Don't ask me for a source for that though, it's just memory.
Yeah, i recall the same kind of sentiment. Tho, it was more like Kouhei didn't ask how to credit him at all and Saddam even had some light trouble with that, but Autechre brand belongs to Warp and he couldn't use it as well, there's only Gescom.
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To Live and Die in LA, i guess? (haven't seen it)
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23 hours ago, amad said:
i don't know about u guys but the cover art gives me untilted vibes... maybe coz colors
it would be nice if it had that very polished track feel too
There's a definite similarity: both are nothing but layered shapes on gray background. Moreover, some of the unused designs for Untilted hint at "ae" letters too (don't see it at the final version)
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19 minutes ago, marf said:
I like early madonna. But does that really mean I like Nile Rodgers?
She gets huge respect from me for being strong. Moving to a dangerous new york city in the late 70's. Broke, working at dunkin donuts. Clawing her way to the top. That is what impresses me about Madonna
Madonna strong. TRUE story of hardship behind her. No iconic star is made without that type of STRUGGLE
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WTF with the US media, i gave it the benefit of a doubt and read that article -- now where the fuck Kanye indicated anything of sort, they put words into his mouth in the most blunt manner possible (not that it doesn't seem true) and expect anyone's attention to their bullshit writing?
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Stumbled upon a long finnish post-mortem article on him with many personal stories in it just yesterday, I transferred one enthusiast's translation to readable format here in two parts:
https://telegra.ph/Mika-Vainio--A-Quiet-Life-part-1-08-03
https://telegra.ph/Mika-Vainio--A-Quiet-Life-part-2-08-03
Finnish original: https://yle.fi/aihe/artikkeli/2017/12/18/mika-vainio-a-quiet-life
Some excertps in regards to his tracks:
QuoteThese observations are also audible in his music. For instance, the famous track Twin Bleebs from Metri (1994) was born when he was lying in his bed late at night, listening to the beeping of traffic lights in a nearby intersection, phasing in and out of sync.
QuotePart of the gear was bought by Pan Sonic themselves, some of it was custom-built by Jari Lehtinen. He designed some amazingly imaginative equipment: a swallowable microphone, an instrument with such a powerful sound that statues shattered at an art museum where Pan Sonic played. Another piece of gear by Lehtinen caused a bomb alert at airport customs when the band was returning from abroad. Mika had to play it for them to prove that it was a genuine musical instrument.
QuoteEven though that search took time and effort, the music needed to take us - it wasn't easy to fit together this enormous fuss and that state of flow. We devoted almost all our days to this combination, from 11 in the morning till 6 at night.
This routine and pragmatism was specifically Mika's wish. The fact is that most of the sounds we could get were awful crap. You don't get the good sounds without long hours.
Electronic gigs might look and even sound like the musicians are just standing around pressing buttons, but we trained many weeks for one gig. We couldn't read music, but we made meticulous notes on how to find the right sounds in a live situation and when we would improvise.
At first we were hated. When Pan Sonic played Färgfabriken in Stockholm, people called the police on us. The reason was that we didn't play rhythmic music. People wanted their 4/4 easily danceable techno. In Berlin, someone in the audience poured beer all over my equipment.
QuoteIt was only in the early 2000's that we really broke through and people started to understand what our music was all about. Without that belief in our own art we would've quit many times over. There was absolutely no money in it. We were never financially well off, although the glowing words of the music press might have led you to believe otherwise.
I marvel at the fact I'm still alive. I live in Kuopio now. Making a living as an experimental musician in that town these days means that you need to do gigs for next to nothing, bring your own equipment and be rewarded with all kinds of pissing and moaning. But I'll go on. It's what Mika would have done.
QuoteMe and Mika's favorite record in our oeuvre is Kulma (1996). The opener Teurastamo was born from Mika's memories of working in the slaughterhouse in Turku. After a torturous search he'd found a noise in his machine that sounded like a screaming pig.
Kulma is our most brutal album, it hits you like a stern whip across the back of thehead. Despite the poor sound quality it's our most direct and uncompromising work.
The names of our songs were often born when Mika made a good meal and put on some Brian Eno. Then we would smoke and look for good-sounding words in dictionaries.
QuoteHis way of translating his experiences to music was wonderful. I remember when he saw Terence Malick's The Tree of Life (2011). He loved the soundtrack so much that he went to see the movie again, blindfolded. So he went in just to listen to the movie. Inspired by this experience, he - as far as I know - composed Elämän puu.
The cover images of Life (...It Eats You Up) (2011) were shot as a result of an awful chain of events. Mika had a habit of slicing up an apple with a knife and eating the slices one by one by taking them up to his mouth between a finger and the blade. He was eating an apple like this while drunk and managed to cut open his tongue. To stop the bleeding, he stuffed a toilet paper roll into his mouth and passed out on the mattress.
At some point he had woken up, gone to get help and taken pictures of the bloody disaster before the ambulance came.
QuoteHow can music this good come out of Finland? This was my first reaction - or more like an exclamation - when I head Mika Vainio's music for the first time. I was listening to his first two EPs, published by Tommi Grönlund's Sähkö Recordings in 1993. I'm not the only one to react in this way.
When Grönlund went to sell Mika's first EPs to Hard Wax in Berlin, they played them in the store to test them out. Everybody stopped looking through records and talking. It's very rare for the clientele to fall silent like that on account of the background music. There was a silencing magic in Mika's music. People who were in the store at the time have said that they were witnessing the start of a new era in electronic music.
QuoteI remember a short conversation I had with Mika about his music. It was pretty much this:
- Why can't you make the kind of music Darude makes?
- Because it's not my business.
After saying that, he smiled. I appreciated his music, but I knew he could have made hit melodies if he had wanted. He was quite bitter with me for saying these thing.
I wondered why he wouldn't make music like Darude, because it would've solved many financial woes. In my youth, a composer would have starved making this kind of music. We didn't have world-wide channels and information exchange then.
It was only after Mika had died did I start to understand how much it meant to so many people around the world. I had never seen it before.
QuoteThere is an autobiographical element to Mika's music. I once told him a story from my childhood where I was fishing at a lake and caught a catfish. I pulled the fish so close that we were eye to eye. Then the line broke and the catfish got away.
The story ended up on the Kantamoinen album with the name Monneista viimeinen (The Last of the Catfish). Mika's childhood favorite book Vellamon lapset (Children of Vellamo) was an inspiration both in cover art and in the names of the songs on Heijastuva (2011).
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14.88 bucks would be more extremist and also cheaper, greedy bastardos
(likely Actress is just playing on ambiguity as usual)
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On 12/5/2015 at 12:16 AM, Draft78 said:
...the final reverberated high sounds are really autecrish, but... it could be like"the autechre's face - one of the countless ae faces - worn by Exm in llmnt"..:
http://touched.bandcamp.com/album/llmnt
Definitely, i think twels is more in that style than ae in 2015.
Everyone's busy about themselves and noone gonna give credit to our ragazzo Draft?
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I suspect if he would isolate his bass playing part, it won't sound particularly intriguing (sort of like Squarepusher on his bass escapades). I mean you could do a lot of rhythmic stuff on top of those tracks and sound cool
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17 hours ago, Draft78 said:
I have the impression that Mark Fell wants to fornicate with my vestibular nerve
I also believe that bqbqbq is a wink that R&D did to Mark Fell
The Fell & Lazar collabo has more to do with Gabor Lazar, i believe, it was recorded in Budapest while Fell was there for a concert, Mark kinda just added his drum machine patterns to sync. Check EP16 by Lazar for indication of sound.
Also i found nineFly has some resemblance to Fell's Ten Types of Elsewhere in timbres, though by no means there's a connection, i just haven't really heard much in that vein (one of my absolute favourites, that nineFly).
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A couple of cool exerpts from the chat log that i haven't seen here:
Quote2020-03-22 23:25:08 Fluorescent Grey,9 chr0: sounds like Autechre figured out a way to use Abelton's Tension physical modeling as a filter envelope controlled beat. love it but total stab in the dark how it was made
2020-03-22 23:25:49 Autechre,9 chr0 is all msp
2020-03-22 23:26:13 Fluorescent Grey,its fun for me because ive been so obsessed with this for so long that AE are the only ones really pushing that sound right now. either that or I just dont pay attention to new music
2020-03-22 23:26:18 Fluorescent Grey,nice!
2020-03-22 23:26:32 Fluorescent Grey,great job on whatever the hell u guys are doing on that track haha
2020-03-22 23:26:35 Autechre,"elseq and everything after is msp from me and mostly from rob he still fucks with the nord mod a bit and some other stuff, hes got most of my hardware now lol"
2020-03-22 23:26:53 Fluorescent Grey,"i tried the Max/msp Modalsys phys mod objects pack and i found it unusable, total CPU killer"
2020-03-22 23:26:55 Autechre,im 100% ITB laptop now
2020-03-22 23:27:08 Fluorescent Grey,im still fascinated by how you guys can do someof this stuff in real-time without maxing out CPU on a normal laptop
2020-03-22 23:27:22 Autechre,"actually so is exai, at least my bits"
2020-03-22 23:27:50 Autechre,"lol i like having less stuff, works better for me"
2020-03-22 23:30:55 Fluorescent Grey,its hard to find a software delay that can get that same gantz graf crunchiness
2020-03-22 23:31:03 Fluorescent Grey,i havent quite found one yet
2020-03-22 23:31:18 Fluorescent Grey,i used to use an old Reaktor 3 one that reminded me of it but have no idea whats its called anymore
2020-03-22 23:31:26 Autechre,lol rob would kill me if i told you what he did that with
2020-03-22 23:31:33 Fluorescent Grey,lol
2020-03-22 23:31:35 Autechre,its prob not that hard to work out thoughQuote2020-03-23 10:15:15 encym,"Hi Rob&Sean, great news about upcoming albums. Would you consider releasing a Max patch and/or an app that is self-generating different versions every time you open it?"
2020-03-23 10:16:12 Autechre,i have considerd the patch release thing but idk how to make it not require me
2020-03-23 10:16:15 Autechre,or rob
2020-03-23 10:16:33 Autechre,i mean we make stuff for us to use rather than stuff that just runs
2020-03-23 10:16:40 Autechre,its not strictly generative
2020-03-23 10:16:54 Autechre,but idk you say max and people say generative
2020-03-23 10:17:10 colorblooming,"it meant to interface with other modules I see, not standalone"
2020-03-23 10:18:07 Autechre,"idk how you can imagine it, hard q to answer, many different modules all with different controls and input/output"
2020-03-23 10:18:31 Autechre,the controller does diff things depending on which patches are loaded
2020-03-23 10:19:09 Luke Dobbin,"sean, you got into any of the mc~ stuff yet?"
2020-03-23 10:19:24 Autechre,yeah .mc is lovely
2020-03-23 10:19:27 encym,"Thanks, and you decide on the go which patches to load, and have a clear idea what each one does? I imagine you must have a huge number of modules"
2020-03-23 10:20:17 Autechre,yeah tons lol i dupe and mod stuff a lot so loads of versions of all of them
2020-03-23 10:20:46 Autechre,yeah you can just select a module and it will load in the bg and activate on the downbeat
2020-03-23 10:21:29 encym,"So you ""multi-track"" different modules, the active ones are of course carrying on doing what they're doing."
2020-03-23 10:22:12 Autechre,"there are slots, each channel has a fixed number, using poly~ to dynamically load, each slot has 2 poly~s and it alternates between them"
2020-03-23 10:23:14 encym,I see
2020-03-23 10:23:26 encym,And the controllers are custom-made I reckon
2020-03-23 10:25:34 Autechre,yeah a few peek~ synths
2020-03-23 10:26:00 Autechre,"i like messing in that domain a lot, weirdly intuitive for me as well idk, the cross modality etc"
2020-03-23 10:26:07 Victor Moragues,"Hi! Did you ever developed with SuperCollider??
2020-03-23 10:26:13 Autechre,not for years
2020-03-23 10:26:47 Autechre,i dig sc but the architecture is awkward for how i think with seq/synth
2020-03-23 10:27:23 Autechre,same thing though
2020-03-23 10:27:43 encym,"Are the modules mostly sample-based, or synthetic, or a wild combination of those things?"
2020-03-23 10:27:55 Autechre,i really dig tc as well tbh but i can't plug it into my shit
2020-03-23 10:28:04 Autechre,our shit is well mutantQuote2020-03-26 13:18:36 cebec,what kind of revamping did you do to your system this past year?
2020-03-26 13:18:52 Autechre,ugh fucking loads of revamping
2020-03-26 13:19:09 Autechre,did the ive stuff first gave it twice as many channels and then spent ages making it run ok
2020-03-26 13:19:34 Autechre,then ported a chunk of the new stuff to m4l to see if we could get that going somehow
2020-03-26 13:19:48 Autechre,it's shit because we can't use any of the sequencing in live but we can record and mix in it
2020-03-26 13:20:53 Autechre,so have been making different sequencers more based on strict hierarchies and trees than the sort of feedback we oblivion we can do in realtime-
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Going through docs i noticed that the webcasts both started and ended on the same stuff (John Oswald - Plexure) according to the chat log and a tracklist for the last one:
Quote2019-10-14 01:04:26 Autechre ugh so the mixlr app says if i publish the archive it can only be 12 hours long max and i started a minute early meaning a minute will be missing off the end. so when it just stops that's why. bit of trivia for you.
2020-03-19 17:54:13 Herr Jan yeeeees
2020-03-19 17:54:18 Subrange neat
2020-03-19 17:54:18 Herr Jan thank you AE
2020-03-19 17:54:33 finlayshakespeare "Thanks lads, we need you rn"
2020-03-19 17:54:48 Autechre GOOD EVENING
2020-03-19 17:54:59 Matthew Smithson,Good Morning
2020-03-19 17:55:00 ~*~ Hello!
2020-03-19 17:55:23 Autechre not really DJing here tbh. I just thought while I'm sat here listening to tunes I might as well stream it
2020-03-19 17:55:38 Autechre Keep trying to do tracks but it;s not happening
2020-03-19 17:55:39 Matthew Smithson good aevaening
2020-03-19 17:55:44 Autechre fucking virus
2020-03-19 17:57:39 Span autechre mix but it's just bbc 3 re-streamed
2020-03-19 17:57:47 Herr Jan sounds like aardvarcks loopin for the perfect beat mix
2020-03-19 17:58:03 exm Lovely
2020-03-19 17:58:16 Subrange ID?
2020-03-19 17:58:25 rusuden606 yes.... Hello errrryboddeee
2020-03-19 17:58:28 Autechre Plunderphonics -Plexure
2020-03-19 17:58:36 ~*~ lol
2020-03-19 17:58:48 Autechre Or John Oswald - Plexure depending who's selling it
2020-03-19 17:58:50 exm ID corona
2020-03-19 17:59:13 Estevan Carlos Benson Just dawned on me. Autechre's going to be making a lot of fucking music in the coming weeks.
2020-03-19 17:59:25 Autechre yeah everyone isQuote06:59:24 John Oswald Open - Plexure [Full Album]
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Some inchatbitants mistook this Baby Ford track as Ae yesterday, at least had some short-lived suspicions, Saddam went in to clear up that it's "Fordy"
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Shit this fuck, i was there at the beginning, switched off coz of all the Depeche Mode cuts, thought it's gonna be 80s memorabilia party
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14 hours ago, joao maia e silva said:
Crispy track this one and a pretty nice flow on the album, you got pretty crystalline style, thanx
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2 minutes ago, tneuvm said:
the last thing they should do is pander to the regressive, nostalgia-driven tastes of the 30 yo boomers on this forum
Too late, they've already decided to pander to these horrible people, source: private chat
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guy with hitler avatar and country set to "Niger" doesn't hold back telling everyone how it is
Well, you spit facts, can't deny you dat, aside from the "guy" part. Got no evidence boi
I'm liberal left tho according to da tests, don't bomb me if you from Belgian ISIS cell, my caricatures are Western only, Allahu Akbar
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I like Joe Muggs' review of one of their live shows where he pretends that he went into it really skeptical that a couple of middle-class white guys could be making good/relevant music, and then the recommended article underneath was another one by him titled "How Warp Records Changed My Life."
https://theartsdesk.com/new-music/autechre-royal-festival-hall
this1?
why even mention skin colour. i legit dont understand that. i was at that one, skin colours pir l-event... just wtf
It was painful to read, dude's a proper trendy "leftist" bitch. Though it seems almost homogenous now, i opened the Wire Rewind 2018 issue and it was all over the place.
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Yeah, I reckon ...partial multisig timelocked revokable cold storage smart contract mechanism.
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Met him once during Geometry of Now event he curated in Moscow (Feb 2017).
It was actually quite a funny story, daughter of officially the richest man in Russia, Victoria Michelson, happened to walk into Fell and Luke Fowler's installation at the Barbican Center and decided to offer him the chance to treat this disintegrated pre-Soviet water-power plant recently bought by her father for future art center purposes.
He invited a lot of his friends and favourites for sound installations, workshops, talks and live gigs, of course. You can check the line-up for names, some artists couldn't come, i guess, at least i know that he also invited the 'chre, but it was against their schedule (no tour at the time). He even brought some of his favourite printed texts for library section (just a large table with A4 prints of research articles and occasional books on philosophy and shit). Mat Steele was there, too, i forgot his exact role, but he was the main technical/sound producer of sorts.
I saw Mark participating in the last talk (on curating contemporary sound art and music) and decided to greet him in person. But i didn't know what to say, so i kinda stood there trying to come up with anything and finally decided to go the idiot fanboy route by asking about his kids. I already deducted that Rian Treanor was his son (i was the one who shared the evidence with WATMM and started the rumour, if you recall), so i asked for his superfluous confirmation (he just gave a nod) and then asked about his daughter, whose track he played in the Headphone Highlights podcast, she also narrated his Composing with process series on radio web MACBA.
So yeah, i'm there asking him about the track, he was ready to go into it but i already heard the story in the podcast, on to the next question with a slight interruption - what's Connie up to? And he goes on with his usual calmly drawn out talk and i'm not hearing half of it (she's twenty and?) so i interrupt him again by asking if she's making electronic music and he says no. Then some girl comes by to greet him and after a pause i awkwardly jump to the Mat Steele question (he already said about his participation in the public talk) and yeah, ok, thanks, bye go to the exit.
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how is cobra related to this? ae, music, adult swim...? what am i missing here?
There are only 5 totems on the page, already two cobras before Ae. It's either goat, cat, owl, bear or cobra.
To hell with it, i counted dat shit ye:
goat 1-7-13-16 (both metal tracks are goats of course)
cat 2-8-12
owl 3-6-11-15
bear 4-9-14
cobra 5-10-17
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I remember an interview of that time, 2005 where SB was asked about favorite stuff of the moment and his answer was smth like "meh i don't dig this modern stuff much but mr. oizo moustache is awesome". And Untilted actually feels like that, some kind of reinterpretation in 'chre style.
I think he also said around that time that he was obsessed by J Dilla's Donuts.
Pass over your subforum badges, gentlemen, if you can't properly reference the WATMM? What's WATMM? infamous 2008 interview
And the actual quote went like this:
Moving away from your own material and gear, who do you guys listen to at the moment and what releases excited you or piqued your interest …you still listen to a lot of dub from the 1980’s?[Laughs] I’m always listening to dub from the ‘80s, I’m the world’s biggest Scientist fan…I’m a total fuckin’ completist as well, I’m terrible. What really spun me out, was when we saw Rhythm & Sound at ATP (All Tomorrows Parties) and they were playing Scientist records that I’m sure were different to the versions I’ve got – I’m sure they’ve got access to some masters or some shit. That was really doing my head in, they’ve got records I’ve never heard before. I’m pretty old-school unfortunately, I tend to listen to a lot of old stuff– that must sound really boring to a kid – but the last thing I really liked were J Dilla’s Donuts and Mr Oizo - Moustache. I really like those records a lot, but would never do a proper sample based thing like that. I’m more into editing, than sampling, it doesn’t matter where the source came from, I’d prefer it was my own stuff really.https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30687-interview-with-sean-booth/
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