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7 hours ago, jaderpansen said:
20.24-20.30 = X4
... right before our ears the whole time!
which begs the questions: y no best shit evar/ 26.05/ pan flute on puls? sean pls!
That "best shit ever" 21:28 has similar hats and resemblence of 7FM ic (tho pads are closer to marhide)
Pan flute of 20:39 is super close to ecol4 (around 06:00)
Some of the unknown cuts definitely hit close to that ecol4, x4 type
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7 minutes ago, dcom said:
Warp EPs have catalog codes starting with WAP, albums start with WARP; Sign is WARP(LP|CD)329 and Plus is WARP(LP|CD)338, so they're albums by catalog code.
If they're the same LP and have similar length +- 1 min... Like M4 Lema is 08:49 and DekDre with 7 FM are 08:42... Anybody tried to play them simultaneously yet?
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8 minutes ago, Draft78 said:
to the right of Sign I see a series of question marks, and I don't think it's a coincidence if the number of question marks that substitute the author is 7
The thing is there's nobody 7-lettered in Warp roster (Battles, Seefeel) that is prominent enough to be hidden like that. Coincidentally, the album title is 4 letters as was SIGN. So... it could a deliberate subtraction of one letter to not be decoded so easily.
Discussed here:
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20 hours ago, jellied cope said:
is this from their site?
From Japanese label that releases Warp https://www.beatink.com/user_data/warp2020.php
31 minutes ago, Wurstwasser said:I'm not only complaining. And seriously, this is not funny.
Another sceptic bullied away for his audacity!
Nice job, fellow subforuminians
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8 minutes ago, purlieu said:
So any news on the green one yet?
Waiting for November 13th currently (tho if it's a release date, then news could be closer in calendar)
Notice the green gradient next to orange
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5 hours ago, Mic Finger said:
Weird side question here, does anyone have insight into the photos that are included with the Sasha Frere-Jones article/interview? Are they just subjective creative content or are the relevant to the article? I kind of wanted to believe that they were from Sean's or Rob's neighborhood, but that seems hyper-unlikely.
I believe it's a byproduct of self-publishing (substack is a self-publishing platform), SFJ is breaking up text blocks to appear lighter on the eyes but has to do it with unlicensed pictures, so he just uses his own.
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23 minutes ago, fumi said:
Obviously too many minds have been lost to SIGN.
Agreed, otherwise they would be all over the Jake Muir new album thread in a snap, SIGN messed up priorities
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14 hours ago, baph said:
If there’s an Autechre album that wears its Coil influence on its sleeves, surely it’s got to be Oversteps and not SIGN.
tbh I kind of wish there was more follow-through with the Oversteps compositional/melodic method, as much as I love everything that’s come since.I hear more of Cocteau Twins' Beatrix in known(1), they played it in one of their marathon streams somewhere
(and regarding SIGN -- F7 definitely resembles known(1) to me, that was my immediate reaction on the premiere, and not only mine, i recall somebody throwing known(2) comment)
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33 minutes ago, zkom said:
Trump's twitter account got hacked: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/22/trump-twitter-hacked-dutch-researcher-password
Apparently the password was "maga2020!"
Orange man stupid, media good, analytical
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4 minutes ago, drillkicker said:
What are you seeing in si00 ? Am I out of the loop or just stupid ?
Part of the album title "operation" implied?
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2 minutes ago, drillkicker said:
N Cur is so lush. I really had to change hats from NTS to get into this album. Glad I did. It's basically Ambersteps. Does anyone else think that track title is a reference to ncurses ?
Probably, but also encore (which makes the track titles seem not that careless, considering telling titles like si00 and au14)
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2 minutes ago, tailings said:
Shitty is a matter of opinion but you can't seriously think it would be non-selling. There are plenty of people, (me included), who would like those tracks on hard copy. I don't own any of those Beat records releases. No matter; much, much thinner and sketchier comps have been releasedover the course of history; ae discards would be nearly prime cuts by comparison.
I seriously think that, how do you know there's plenty? Do you have an idea ~how many people buy regular releases for a start?
And what's this argument that sketchier comps were released? Ae should lower their standard closer to the worst releases in history coz they don't care or why, exactly?
Shitty or not to you, they were deemed as good as bonus tracks go by their creators, and in a comp context they would flow way worse than as an optional outro.
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6 minutes ago, tailings said:
it would be fantastic if they'd release a comp of all those japanese bonus tracks. What is preventing that from happening?
Embarrassment at how shitty and non-selling it would be?
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8 minutes ago, Hugh Mughnus said:
I don’t know. I tend to consolidate as much as I can. I don’t store my schoolwork on multiple drives, I don’t have a separate fridge for meat, produce, and dairy etc. Lol
Thats precisely what I’m asking is what the benefits are as it would make more sense to me to keep it in one place (streaming services aside as that’s a different form of revenue). If they take a smaller cut using bandcamp or bleepstore why not just... direct fans to where they get a bigger cut?
honest question I’m not criticizing or anything
You, like, answered your question yourself -- if you consolidate most of the stuff on, say, bandcamp (one fridge for everything), why would you go to other places (separate fridge for Ae, separate fridge for this, another one for that) for some unknown cut economy every time?
It even maybe so that keeping up bleepstore is costlier than using bandcamp for a label. Tho that's not a question of label's convenience but customer's. You keep it in one place and have less customers as a result.
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2 minutes ago, Hugh Mughnus said:
Why do they need a bandcamp and bleepstore? Why not just one or the other? (Not sure how fees/warps cut works...)
Why wouldn't they use everything possible just in case? They lose what exactly? Some people prefer bandcamp as a place to buy music. Warp may not like it coz of the fee, but the cut from Spotify, Apple music etc. gotta be incomparably lower, yet they are there (and not in one streaming service but all of them).
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2 minutes ago, apriorion said:
They should title the next one "ificant" as in "that would be significantly stupid and I do not wish for them to do things like that"
Or it could be a collection of remixes called "re-sign" as in "I resign from making silly predictions".
It's named SIGN as in ABBREVIATION, no atures and ificants for you dyslexicians!
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1 hour ago, mushroom said:
not a lot of reverb on this album
It's for the last track to work (i personally hated that reverb turn they took after Untilted, it's such a boring experienced producer thing to do)
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11 hours ago, IDEM said:
See here:
Unconvincing to me, a critic has absolutely understandable inhuman bias towards something he doesn't like, a fan has human bias towards something he listened thru a hundred times. A lot of people find Ae cold, alien etc. even while sympathising to it (i recall one robotic electro fan saying he liked to turn on Confield to be irradiated), so there must be a dimension of impenetrability. Of course there are fragile melodies and "emosh" stuff here and there, but that's not the general line, not why you come to Ae instead of BoC, for example.
My take is that being cold, alien, autistic is interesting in music coz music is heavily tied to a human perspective that is unavoidable, it's nothing to shy away from, the problem with that is it almost always doesn't deliver on those premises, you see the fabricated nature of it.
If somebody unknown gives me a choice to listen to something human or inhuman without any further clarification, i would prefer to listen to inhuman on average.
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1 hour ago, IDEM said:
I dunno, it just feels like he's fallen prey to the old cliché of "inhuman" music, which is total BS, isn't it? But in reality, he's dismissive of IDM in general because in his mind, it clashes with the true unbridled spirit and raw energy of the "hardcore continuum". He's quoting Mixmaster Morris, "who in 1994 defined 'intelligent techno' as 'the opposite of stupid hardcore'", and the way he presents it, it sounds like more of a hostile takeover than a natural evolution of sorts. It's pretty apparent that he has a bone to pick with IDM, I mean the whole chapter is titled "Furniture Music", and I'm not sure he means it in an affirmative way. But in some parts this anti-intellectual stance feels like a pose, like some ethnologist trying to save the "noble savage" from the clutches of Western civilisation. I think he's just trying very hard to belong. Still, overall it's a good book, the way he delineates the history is decent.
(I haven't read the book)
How is inhuman music concept bullshit even if banal? Loads of noise and algorhythmic stuff and whatnot is intentionally inhuman, what's the argument against? Some just have a different picture of the border disposition between human/inhuman. That there's still human decisions behind it -- well, Reynolds clearly doesn't forget that with autistic boys metaphor (not reptilians or something).
What i mean is that despite his own dismissive view towards Ae, the way he describes his troubles with it makes it seem cool if you don't follow on implications such as, schematically speaking, inhuman / autistic / pre-verbal = harmful to musical output.
I saw his 2019 article on IDM-related modern electronica and he seems to be much warmer towards that style now (mentions Ae once too) https://pitchfork.com/features/article/2010s-rise-of-conceptronica-electronic-music/
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7 hours ago, IDEM said:
"Although Artificial Intelligence's sleevenotes had insisted that the new electronica 'cannot be described as soulless or machine made', what's most interesting about Autechre's work is the absence of heart and humanity, the way that the listener's impulse to forge an emotional connection simply ricochets off the impenetrable, gnomic surfaces of their sound. At times you can't help wonder if the 'aut' in their name stands for autism: listening, the mind's eye conjures up a vision of two small boys surrounded by tekno toys, lost in their own little pre-verbal world of chromatics and texture and contour."
Simon Reynolds, Energy Flash. A Journey through Rave Music and Dance Culture
And that was published in 1998, so before LP5 at least, which is funny. Tho this description feels complementary / gives an intriguing angle, if you don't take dismissive implications at face value.
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Yo, i address loudly so errybody hears: it's named SIGN as in abbreviation, there's a difference there, do you also call Untilted Untitled coz who cares or what, we're in Ae subforum
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2 hours ago, dingformung said:
The amount of detail in si00 is incredible. There are so many melodies far back in the mix
How many? Let's count!
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30 minutes ago, d-a-m-o said:
Do you guys remember Sean mentioning importing the Max/msp system in M4L for remixing purpose ? If I understand correctly the new material is also produced in M4L/Ableton right ?
I remember, and i got a word from an unknown source that Ae agreed to remix Sophie. Probably other remixes are in queue.
Don't believe that they would use M4L for their own stuff, i mean what's the practical reason to switch from Max? I think it works worse in M4L and gives them nothing new tool-wise
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16 hours ago, fizzkinz said:
I'd be interested to know how those who didn't care for oversteps feel about this one.
I'm not saying Oversteps and Sign are cut from the same cloth, and I definitely see them very differently.Bullseye! I didn't care for Oversteps much and it really feels like Oversteps 2.0 with variables -- not by sound/composition but as a stylistic move, even this "jams to songs" transition.
MoT was certainly a more raw & welcomed collection to me, tho sorta mishmashed together very inconsistently (feels like the most ragged Ae release ever), and i hope for something similarly drastic to happen with the green one.
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AE jam snippets played on Mixlr
in Autechre
Posted · Edited by Amen Lare
From the chat log:
2020-03-30 12:36:45 Autechre: most of these are old as well
2020-03-30 12:37:14 Autechre: not gonna play any of the new live jams, no spoilers
2020-03-30 13:02:43 ivan ooze: can we hear 5 secs of the new album pls? :)
2020-03-30 13:03:10 Autechre: no all the new stuff is under wraps sorry :)
2020-03-30 13:03:38 Autechre: still might release some of these but not in the next batch
In fact, he played some of the new (if only seconds), and according to the NYT interview SIGN is post-revamp, PLUS should be too but maybe not these particular tracks.
Edit: well, maybe not definitely post-revamp, that's not clear if 2018 was involved