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so I did some research and it turns out every single artist/producer we've talked about on this thread is in fact an alias of Richard. It's merely 1/16th of of his "new material". Wow, Afx is such a pioneer that a series of random underground releases he anonymously put out over the last year have spawned an entire microgenre itself, christianed as "vaporwave" by "dumb journalists", as rdj himself mockingly put it (in a short interview i did with him). Oh, also, half of the material that these sample-based releases derives from are not actually 80s disco/pop tracks, but rather they are also Richard's own "pre-tracks" that he made in order to "sample" them for the new tracks. It goes far back though.. Even James Ferraro is Rich. -- hence the "james", all the R's, and similar letters. And for the record, "seapunk" was of course nothing less than a direct result of the major influence of Analords and The Tuss... actually, every single "seapunk" release was simply an Analord outtake disguised as a wide array of individual artists. So there you have it, rdj is everwhere. (:

but ok, here is some other stuff that i really dig that's not on the whole corporate/smooth jazz tip: http://youtu.be/96TYjnJ8h-s ^ that kate bush sample looped over and over w/ cindy crawford and tyra banks floating upwards drinking pepsi is just pure heaven. Sorry if any of these were already posted.

Of course that is there and is interesting, but those are connections being made by "writers." Most of the stuff I like wasn't made with the intention of making music that can be classified as vaporwave and thus some how topple big corps. If there is going to be a narrative, there should be many, not just antiglobalism. Absolutely, For me, call it vaporwave, experimental, ambient, dreamy electronica, weird retro stuff, ironic elevator muzak lol whatever... example- this: http://disconscious.bandcamp.com/album/hologram-plaza it's the sound, mood, feel, atmosphere, art that primarily captures me- not whatever political/social statement or categorization that it might be saying. I will say, that there is something that pulls me in the direction of the whole cold, vacant, corporate schmaltz wrapped in a warped, eerie, but some how comfy vibe. when you can't tell what era it's from, that's what i like. because it takes away the attachments in my mind when im listening. i think many of these artists have properly executed that aspect of their productions whether it's sample-based or composed, i don't really care.. but they've managed to do something i find interesting, and I think it speaks to many people that are discovering it.

http://www.dummymag.com/features/next-saint-pepsi-and-new-generation cool article about Saint Pepsi and how the Keats Collective is gonna be doing more stuff also been hearing about James Ferarro's new album- supposed to be pretty crazy. ill have to check it out.

Don't leave!!! lol no, i hear you though.. i've personally been posting a lot of the Fortune 500 stuff which seems to be pretty specific to a certain asthetic.. there are actually plenty of different flavors of vaporwave and related styles, from what ive been gathering. some verging closer to chillwave/ambient, or trancey, some closer to disco, some closer to smooth jazz/muzak, and some on the industrial/weird/experimental tip... others- more hip hop like blank banshee. what i love about all of these different flavors is that theyre still all weird, dreamy, imaginitive and timeless. For example, Point Never makes stuff that you cannot tell what era it derives from. i personally have a fixation with dreamy loungey futuristic music you'd hear in hotels, airports and malls, hence my obsession with stuff like Prismcorp, Ultra, Luxury Elite and many other stuff on the f500 label. but there's so much more of this stuff out there that doesn't have that Fortune500 feel. just gotta explore.

http://fortune500.bandcamp.com/track/midnight-business: vaporfusion? Oh yeah.. that's dope sounding (: It's like the 80's Japanese jazz fusion band Casiopea on heroin remixed by a weird ass DJ, both collaborating on a piece of music on a friday morning at 4:30am in some seedy b-film/indie/porn theater theater in Philly, on a rainy day while the roof is leaking raindrops. Someone just ordered "falafel-hot dogs" from the vendor down the street, and walked into the theater only to be met by strung out Casiopea and the weird ass DJ who are both passed out in the sound booth while tape loops are repeating.

Loving these releases: http://fortune500.bandcamp.com/album/market-world http://fortune500.bandcamp.com/album/focus-life

I just bought $100 worth tonight at a mcdonalds in cash from some dude i met off localbitcoins.com lol.. checked his seller rating, and it was legit and he seemed a pretty straight up guy. payments are confirmed and in my digital wallet. i know, 100 is only pocket change and the market is high right now, but who knows, maybe in a year, the fed will regulate it, and it will boom in the world economy and ill have 6 more zeros added to the amount in my wallet ha fingers crossed (:

... am i paranoid not to trust submitting my bank account or debit information to a site called coinbase.com, or localbitcoins.com?? It just feels very shady considering the type of market it is. how do i know im not gonna get fucked from the actual company?

sweet, im trying to buy 100 worth right now, but localbitcoins.com is down.. i looked into coinbase, but i dont feel safe giving my debit card or bank account info. is there any trustworthy sites where i can do a moneypack, giftcard, or anything like that? is paypal secure to use?

Nice! Wow, that sounds pretty in depth.. So what form of payment did you use to purchase your btc from LocalBitCoins.com? Im mostly concerned with preventing bank account theft etc...

So where did all you guys purhcase? I've been browsing vaeious bitcoin forums to try and gauge which place is the safest, and it's just like chaos with all of the chatter.. no idea where to start. Localbitcoins?... Coinbase?.. Bitstamp?... Is a digital wallet safe, and do I have to give a lot of personal info? Also, what form of payment is the safest? Surely, I shouldnt trust any of those sites with my credit card/bank account numbers, right?

^^ Josh, lol that's crazy you stumbled into that description (: I'll have to give that Ju4n stuff a listen- seems/looks righteous! ^^ Sheathe, oh gawd yes, both tracks with Plaza in their names on that album are glorious.. Esp that wall of swirling, filtering mid-heaven abyss that goes on for a minute at the end of one of em! I was listening to that album today at work when it hit me just how much detail & finesse Ultra puts into his/her editing/morphing/arranging.

lolol for sure!

Arrrgghh i can't stop listening to and !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So. Fucking. Good. So cold and warm at the same time. So blue and green. So tasty and yet so stale. So fake, but so real. So mundane, but so surreal.

nice thanks for the heads up salva... any forum you recommend/place youd trust in particular?

Yeah, im goin in too! I got $50 on it.. where should i drop it, mates?

I keep stopping myself from buying in - "nah, surely this is it, this is the fad's plateau", & then it spikes up again. I'll be kicking myself if bitcoin is the dominant Earth currency in 20 years & a bunch of redditors are trillionaires because of it Now that I'm working I'm tempted to just throw a 50 at it & see what happens. The hard part would be not cashing in as soon as that 50 turns into a 60. thinking about doing the same thing...

oh dude, hypnagogic hullucinations are amazing.. it's hit or miss though.. they can be awesome or terrifying. I used to get them quite often. Now, if I sleep on my back, I'm almost guaranteed to have them, so i have to sleep on my stomach if I want a good night's rest.

lol that sounds awesome! surely it probably scared the shit outta you as a kid haha damn, look at those LUSH 90s utilitarian-style merchandise racks!

Dude, this is awesome! Makes me feel like Im a little kid waiting at the mall outside of Robinsons May or Bloomingdales for my mom to come back while I space out sitting on one of those courtyard chairs in the middle of the walkway with all of the echoey muzak and chatter converging into one hazy ball of background noise as my 10-12 year old self fixates on the NIN CD i just discovered and bought at Circles CDs and Tapes. Those moments (:

Those styles and images are part of a larger movement of ironic web 2.0 art that has been ping ponging across the web since 2009 or so. Greek Columns, glitchy MS paint drawings, Miami pink sunset cursive writing, but many styles lay claim to these visual elements, such as italo disco, electro, and many other popular styles whose respective consumers have never listened to Internet Club. The visual element is much more prevalent, across multiple genres, mainstream and not. But visual aesthetics are typically much more shallow than aural ones, and experience much easier transfluence via meme B2B connections (brain to brain), whereas audio aesthetics take maybe a 100x more time to assimilate to one's archetypal index. There is a rush to say that vaporwave is dead, or that seapunk is dead, (both have similar visual language), but fashion/ visual aesthetics are by far the easiest to mimic and thus trickle through alt culture. Miley Cyrus has no clue about anything, but her PR team probably spend hours every day reading Hipster Runoff, trying to make her image ironic enough. People have been posting triangles and upside down crosses and pentagrams and circles and Pink-Orange gradients for a solid 4 years. It seemed really cool to me in 2010, and I was cutting diamonds out of pictures in photoshop. I picked up on it pretty early, I think. I had a good conversation about this with a highly disposive art female who is always trying to be ahead of the curve. We reminisced about the prevalence of triangles in tumblr culture, or should I say cvltvre. But anyone can watch Miami Vice and say, hey, I want my album of sick beats and eletro synths to have a cover just like that. Anyone can draw a triangle in photoshop and use the paint bucket tool. Fear not, for as I have been saying, the deeper concepts will endure and go largely unnoticed by the mainstream. That's by far one of the most thought out, well articulated posts I've seen on watmm. lol.. Couldn't agree more sir. "Miley Cyrus has no clue about anything, but her PR team probably spend hours every day reading Hipster Runoff, trying to make her image ironic enough." lolol 100% truth.. i miss reading that site btw. carls made me laugh for sure!

lol, pair it with your daw's stock reverb and you're set

^.... but those aesthetics and that reaktor software shouldnt stop people from wanting to make cool vaporwave and related stuff... it's pretty lame ive already heard the whole "vaporwave is dead" call to actions from the uber hipsters.. yeah, just cuz cool styles are emerging and gaining more traction within a larger music community doesnt mean all creativity has been exhausted. but these styles have been around forever, before the term of the micro-niche genre was created.. kinda like with punk rock. punk may have "died" in 1977, but real punk rockers keep making punk rock lol- (it just may not be as "cool" as it used to be), but from an art standpoint, who cares? some of the best punk rock shows were in 2001, in high school for me- my defining feeling and understanding of what punk rock meant .. only the trendy assholes and talentless hacks abandon a sound just cuz it starts to get bigger. with that said, i still don't think the sounds of Point Never or PrismCorp is going to be the next pop thing as theyre not quite accessible enough to a wide audience, and ppl may not get it... Saint Pepsi or Macintosh Plus on the other hand, i could def hear Rihanna in 2015 singing over those types of dreamy surreal beats lol.

hmmm... well, it seems the image side of vw is already mainstream anyway lol: new miley new arcade fire new gaga remember yeaysayer's album art from a while back?