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  1. goDel
    Perhaps. Gop will set precedent though. Let them take responsibility for their crap by moving it to senate. They can look back in 10 years and think about what they did.
  2. goDel
    Nope. This shitstain of a presidency will also be a shitstain on US history. For everyone to see. He won the 2016 election. Can not undo. CTRL-Z is not an option.
  3. goDel
    Hold your beer! We still don't know the outcome of their time in government.
  4. goDel
    Good, the "impeached" is finally tattooed on his yuge butt. ?
  5. goDel

    TWIN PEAKS

    goDel replied to Candiru's topic in General Banter

    Just posted. I final Corn pone flicks on TP 3rd season. He's a bit salty in this one. hehe i guess the 4 hour other one was a bit too much for him ?
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    I'm talking about the normal/cis people who haven't got a clue (generally speaking). Might be that I'm actually have a different discussion. Dunno. It's just that the "they" of people who don't identify with either gender have a different "they" than the people oblivious to this issue. And the question is to what extent this specific meaning will carry over to the larger population. Which generally speaking would be the idea, right? If you drop the notion that the larger population uses it this way, that's fine. In that case, it's kinda like what were doing here: a small community with their own meaning for some words.
  7. goDel
    Fake books.
  8. goDel
    To get people to use "they" in the sense that carries a meaning which is sensitive towards the gender issue. For the record: I'm not pissed off about anything. Language changes. That's a given. The way it changes is more where this discussion is, as far as I'm concerned. I've got not issues with your or others position on this, btw. So as far as I'm concerned, I'm in the "lets grab a beer" phase and onto the next subject. You've got your opinions. I have mine. Party time. That rhymes, sort of.
  9. goDel
    Fair. Languages are indeed in flux. The tight definition is mostly about peoples experience on how certain words are used. It is useful to note that although language is constantly in flux, that doesn't mean that people change their use of common words they already use on a daily basis. Words that are "common" are basically set in stone. You can introduce a new concept, like Google, and with popularity, in a short time everyone will use it in daily speech if they say they are searching the internet. Language changes faster when everyone has direct and frequent experience. Which is not what is happening here. People dont have direct and frequent experience. And worse, the idea is to change the meaning of an already commonly used word. If people still think this is the way to go, that's fine. But please be aware you're fighting an uphill battle. Which goes beyond the cultural acceptence of gender fluidity. You're basically forcing your way into words people already use on a daily basis. That's not how language typically evolve, I'd argue.
  10. goDel
    Theres a difference between culture and empathy on an individual level, I'd argue.
  11. goDel
    Ugh...
  12. goDel

    Go Corbyn

    goDel replied to lala's topic in General Banter

    Bye bye Corbyn
  13. goDel
    The irony about empathy, is that it comes with experience. And that people tend to get more cynical (and conservative) with age. (In other words, it's not just a boomer thing) If the idea is that people will evolve to have more empathy (other words, it *is* a generational issue), you need to explain why we actually see the opposite happening. Rising prevalence of autism for example. And arguably, the trigger happy PC culture can also be seen as a consequence of having less empathy ( instead of more...trigger warning!). That is, if you consider the use of conflict as a tool to force PC issues, I'd say that would be a sign of a lack of empathy. There tends to be a lot of conflict (and people being triggered). And, imo, older generations seem to have less issues with being empathetic with eachother than younger generations. Could be me though. The group identity thing (pc culture!?) seems like a regression to me, instead of a progression. As empathy is about the individual and not the group. And the focus on group identity seems to comes at the cost of individual identity. Adding the conflict model on top of that, only seems to add to the regression part.
  14. goDel
    So, i guess the idea is it will get normal once more people (a majority?) indentifies themselves as gender fluid? ...and the old generation has passed away? ( is gender fluid ok, or should it be multiple genders?) and out of curiosity, would a gender fluid person refer to themselve(s) as "we" and "our". Or are we going to confuse the F out of everyone and do they use "I", "me" and "mine" ? and does a person with multiple genders consider themselves as having multiple identities? And if thats the case, should we also use singular "they" for all people with multiple identities, regardless of their gender? i'm sure some people spent a lot of time thinking this through. From the moron perspective, me and mine, it's confusing as fuck, though. And i gotta say shapiro has a point here. I'll admit I'm being insensitive. But thats the thing. If people having multiple genders is not a thing you come across on a daily basis, the "they" will never catch on. It's too confusing and not intuitive. And I tend to believe people in general will remain insensitive. Similar to saying "Jesus Christ!" as a curse, and having to struggle to stop doing that if you insult the occasional religious person. Even if that religious person is someone you talk to on a daily basis. If it's the only religious person, the "Jesus!" curse is f-ing hard to get out of your system. And this is even without the extra confusion of using a plural "they" as a singular. Why the ambiguity!? Makes it even more confusing. Please dont tell me I triggered half the forum with this post... ?
  15. goDel
    My guess is, his celebrity status combined with his decades of media presence and vaguely political opinions was enough for people too simply ignore all the BS coming from his orange painted mouth. And I suspect there's plenty people with similar narcissistic traits who "understand" him and "get" where he's coming from. Thats the thing you see from time to time where people feel the need to explain Trump to those who don't understand him. You can recognize them by their ability to look past the nonsense and deduce the deeper Trump "logic". The Freud in me would argue that these people grew up with a "strong" parent who gaslighted them into some form of docile slave. These people get warm and fuzzy feelings when Trump talks. As they've grew up to be dependent on some kind of gaslighter giving them a sense of direction. This might be more normal ( prevalent) than you'd expect. I got a whiff of that as well, tbh. So, take this with a grain of salt.
  16. goDel
    Zeff, honestly, I don't know where to start. Get the impression we live in completely different bubbles and talk a different language. Even though the words look the same, the meaning is different. To the point of being unrecognizable. I'm not trying to be judgmental. This is about the process of getting to some kind of mutual understanding. And currently, all I can say is that I don't understand where you're coming from at all. And given your replies I can only assume this to be mutual. Better to leave it here, I guess.
  17. goDel
    yeah, that's what i consider the generational issue. it's a temporal effect. not structural.
  18. goDel
    More on that subject, in the beginning of this Youtube with a *completely* unrelated and non-political topic (!!!), a very relevant psychological effect is discussed. The illusory truth effect. There's strong evidence that humans are very susceptible by believing lies if they are repeated often enough. It basically takes a couple hours to get students to believe in obvious lies. Or, as he says it, repetition is more powerful than intelligence and knowledge. It's in the first 5 minutes, so you don't need to sit through the rest of it.
  19. goDel
    Read your history books. The idea of work being done by machines was already a thing during the industrialisation. And perhaps earlier even. Remember when farmers started using horses to do the heavy lifting? And what happened any time new technologies took over tasks human were used to doing? Some work won't be done by humans. Other work will come in its place. I don't know what, or why, but this is how it has been for a long time. And the question is whether this will actually change in a world of AI, for instance. (I'm guessing your answer is yes.) Currently, I'd argue, AI is still a (net) job creator. Or something which helps humans already with a job to do their job better/faster/etc. In a future of AI productivity will be higher than it currently is, I'd argue. And there will still be plenty jobs. There might be an argument about the kind of jobs and the abilities that will be required. The volume of work however doesn't concern me. I consider the AI-age mostly a generational issue, more so than, say, a cognitive issue (eg.: work will become too complex for your average joe). Things are moving faster, and older generations will have a harder time catching up. Younger generations growing up in this age of information will grow up better able to adapt to these new challenges. And the average joes of the future would be considered todays geniuses. Without actually being smarter, btw. This is about adaption and the effect of growing up in a different environment.
  20. goDel
    The interesting thing about the trolls is that you can basically read the Trump campaign strategy coming alive. One of the strategies is to convince people Trump is "inevitable". It energises the base. And it demotivates democratic voters to vote. Sounds like a perfect Trump strategy. I hope a future movie will be called "How to bullshit your way into the White House". Subtitle:"The death of American Democracy". It's going to be black humour. And its conclusion is that American voters have been turned into spineless beings who can't think for themselves and instead think in terms of prefabricated stereotypes.
  21. goDel
    "less well off" This idea of communism might just be a brake on the evolution of humanity. We go forward! Towards "better off" for all! From your comments, I guess that means not towards communism. As that will imply us moving back to the middle ages. And telling us that's in the interest of ... who exactly?
  22. goDel
    Zeff, globally speaking youre in the top % of the rich. Might not feel like it, but yeah...you're a rich fuck.
  23. goDel
    Election 2020 cycle has officially started. If you're still sick of HRCs emails, you might want to move to Canada. Things will only get worse. Also, here's interesting opinion piece for the people unsatisfied with the "only" 2 articles of impeachment the Dems put unto paper. Arguing it's a masterstroke to do only two. So yeah. Opinions and all that. Who knows at this point, right?
  24. goDel
    Sorry guys, to me this is all Alice in Wonderland stuff. I'm out.
  25. goDel
    You're on your own here. To me this is similar to demanding that people need to have all possible kinds of care readily available within 5 mins distance, at all times. Just in case something horrible might happen. It's not a reasonable demand. Or rather, I don't think it's a reasonable risk which forces us to (re)plan an entire society to simply avoid this single scenario. You might as well demand solution for some kind of meteorite that's might be heading our way at some point in a possible future.
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