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  1. Just now, sweepstakes said:

    Oh shit me too. Good memories of blasting the 18£ Snare Rush Mix at full volume with the windows down, though.

    Sounds awesome. I only had AM/FM radio and no air conditioner.

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  2. 53 minutes ago, eassae said:

    I just don't agree that the entire system of policing "causes a lot of harm." Yes it has harmful aspects.

    I thought I was using data? That's what got me in hot water in the first place.

    I'm not sure why you used that chart since it supports our argument that Black Americans are killed at a higher rate than other groups. It says just that in the article you linked.

    The policing problem is intersectional with poverty. The poverty to prison pipeline is very real: https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/es_20180314_looneyincarceration_final.pdf

    Black Americans are killed by police at a higher rate, incarcerated at a higher rate, and arrested at a higher rate, even when they haven't committed any crimes. Even the NY Post (which would work better as kindling than a newspaper) reported that: https://nypost.com/2020/06/11/black-people-arrested-five-times-more-than-white-in-2018-report/

    There are plenty of broken window policies/policing that have been doing this for decades. Nixon's war on drugs, Biden's 90s crime bill, etc.

    Even one of Nixon's former advisors, John Ehrlichman said this:

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    “You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities,” Ehrlichman said. “We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

    So this isn't just a few bad apples. There is a decades long pattern that shows that the entire system is skewed.

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  3. 2 minutes ago, eassae said:

    For me, it's not even a matter of finding bias, that's usually fairly easy to spot. It's that stories are being presented, not with small biases, but with huge ones, and they do it in order to increase profits, and it has real world consequences. 

    Yeah that's a problem that's been around since the newspaper was invented. You have the internet now. You can source what's probably true or not by looking at a lot of different sources.

    10 minutes ago, eassae said:

    I definitely think there is a shitty policing problem. I don't deny that at all. The main issue being training that I brought up before. I also acknowledge that it is a profession that can attract people that want power over others for whatever reason. I just don't think that is the majority. From the officers I've met, I would say for most it's just a job, some truly want to help their community, I haven't met any that give me pause or that have made me think they are inherently sadistic. That said I'm sure they're out there.

    This is another right-wing talking about. You're doing a "not all cops" thing, which isn't our point. Our point is that the system of policing causes a lot of harm and should be addressed. Statistically, this harms African Americans more than any other group.

    Also, look up real data rather than relying on anecdotal evidence.

  4. 1 hour ago, eassae said:

    I acknowledge that race could be a factor in some cases, but it can't statistically be the dominant reason.

    It is a much larger factor than you have considered. Have a look at how bad the white supremacist problem is in police departments.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/537611-white-supremacy-and-american-policing

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    The institutional racism prevalent in many police forces does not constitute white supremacy per se, but it creates an environment conducive to extremist recruitment. The increase in the number of white supremacist groups and their membership over the past two decades has been thoroughly documented. As white supremacy spread, concern over extremist groups recruiting officers increased. A 2006 FBI report warned of white supremacists infiltrating law enforcement and the 2015 Counterterrorism Policy Directive and Policy Guide reiterated the warning, “white supremacist extremists, and sovereign citizen extremists often have identified active links to law enforcement officers.” 

    No one knows precisely how many officers belong to extremist organizations. The 2020 Brennan Center report found alleged connections between law enforcement officials and white supremacist groups or “far-right militant activities” in at least 14 states. It also uncovered dozens of reports of racist behavior by officers around the country.

    Also these: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/27/white-supremacists-militias-infiltrate-us-police-report

    https://www.vox.com/2021/1/16/22233514/capitol-riot-rally-police-white-supremacy

    The shitty policing problem isn't a media problem. That's a right-wing talking point that distracts from the purpose of holding police accountable.

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  5. 17 minutes ago, chenGOD said:

    This is admirable, but often times the cause of addiction with meth is the actual drug. Again, I'm not saying they should be criminalized, far from it - many drugs that are currently scheduled should be legalized federally - marijuana, psilocybin, LSD, even heroin. On the other hand, I'm not sure if legalizing meth is a good option. Decrim definitely though.

    It's actually very debatable as to what causes addiction in the first place. A lot of psychologists and clinicians often say that it's the environment that facilitates the desire and delivery of the drug rather than strictly the drug. It's tangential evidence, but I've known a few people that smoked meth semi-regularly that never got addicted to it.

    And yeah, I think drugs in general should be decriminalized, but as to the legality of methamphetamines, they're not 100% illegal in the United States already (they are in Canada): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_methamphetamine

    Making it illegal doesn't exactly make it go away. When it comes to drugs, the subject is highly intersectional.

  6. 17 minutes ago, zero said:

    probably so. but realistically the amount of time, money, and effort to do that for all meth heads would be massive. and even then, you'd get dudes relapsing, and therefore all that effort is totally negated. again, I do not have the answer as to how to solve this, but I'd imagine some sort of cheap, fast medicinal concoction that science can come up, which causes physical symptoms forcing people permanently off meth, is what should be explored.

    A substantial amount of people relapsing is because of criminalization itself. It will definitely take a long time, but using Portugal as an example, it can show positive effects fairly quickly (obviously, the North American population is much larger than Portugal). It just takes a serious investment from the government in public health care, poverty, and education.

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  7. 44 minutes ago, chenGOD said:

    Question: How do you deal with the meth epidemic? Criminalizing drugs obviously not the answer, but you know, meth is one of those things where you kind of take the ol' drugs r bad mmmkay approach. I'm sure some of it can be apportioned to poverty/lack of economic activity, but I gotta figure that some of it is just - meth feels pretty fucking good.

    Many clinicians would say that you should admit them for health reasons and treat the underlying problems that cause addiction.

  8.  

    Derek Chauvin guilty of murder in George Floyd's death

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/derek-chauvin-verdict-reached-trial-over-george-floyd-s-death-n1264565

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    MINNEAPOLIS — Derek Chauvin was found guilty on all counts Tuesday for causing George Floyd's death, a jury verdict that could send the disgraced former Minneapolis police officer to prison for the rest of his life. Chauvin's eyes darted left and right over his light blue surgical mask as Judge Peter Cahill read the jury's verdict, but he betrayed little else in the way of emotion.

    Chauvin, who was convicted of second- and third-degree murder, as well as second-degree manslaughter, stood up quickly after the judge ordered his bail revoked and compliantly placed his hands to be handcuffed before he was led out of the courtroom. He faces up to 75 years in prison when he returns for sentencing in eight weeks.

    Get fucked, Derek.

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