Braintree
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Instead of locking the thread we should lock in the users with the highest post counts.
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Okay dude. You are obviously not interested in looking at the material objectively. I have shown sufficient evidence to support my claims. Your statements in this thread have been largely either irrelevant or specious at best. You have continued to try to change the debate to consider philosophical ideas over agreed upon definitions. You are arguing in bad faith and I'm sick of it. Good luck arguing about whatever the fuck you think is tangentially related to whatever topic rears its stupid head. /last post
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maybe it would if enough people voted on it It does though. No need for a vote.
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It has a concrete definition. Your philosophizing doesn't change that.
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definitely not It is quite clear to me that I am arguing with nimrods.
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Still trying to get the hang of dark shots. I also need a tripod and need to get on my roof if I'm going to take a decent photo of this. My windows refract light so there's always a weird glare.
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In the simplest way to express it; because there's no structure in a mob. A government is a structure.
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Democracy is a form of government.
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n That's mob rule.
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This is fucking nonsense. The lived experience does not have anything to do with how socialism is defined. You've taken one too many rugby balls to the head.
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You are having a really hard time putting two and two together my man. You are so close. Democracy is required for the working class to make any moves at all.
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Thanks. It's been a long time coming, though. She's been slowly deteriorating over the past 15 years. Lost both of her legs to diabetes and had a series of other ailments. In a way, I'm glad that her suffering is finally over.
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If your appeal to authority is Zeff, then you're off your rocker. Again, their experience is not relevant to the definition of socialism. You don't define economic systems by asking joe schmo how he feels about it. That gives you their assumption and not the literal definition of the thing that makes them feel that way. That person is angry about authoritarianism, not socialism as it never existed there. Re: your link (which I read when it came out), we're not talking about SocDems vs Socialists. As it relates to this thread directly, Marx thought democracy was pretty rad, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_Marxism (I'll repeat here that the efficacy of the theory is not our focus) As I've previously mentioned, you won't be able to form a union without democracy. The union is the first step to gaining control of the workplace over the company owners.
