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    Studio Pics

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    16 hours ago, user said:

    Couple of possibilities; your expectations are too high, you’re too critical of your own work, you need to work harder/make more effort, give yourself more time to get to know the gear and get better at what you’re trying to do, it’s the person and not the gear after all. 
    Also if you like what you’re hearing in a demo maybe it sounds bland and uninspiring because you’re doing what you heard in the demo? 

    These are just a bunch of thoughts that occurred, nothing meant in a harsh way or anything. 
     

    Noticed with myself I feel slightly better when I don’t watch synth demos and such. I think for me it’s easy to get sucked into the whole music/synth consumer subculture of music making because my brain gives out all kind of rewards for watching entertaining synth vids, doing tons of window shopping and “research” that mostly starts of well intended but I end up with an even bigger list of gear to check out and maybe a 1 or 2 tidbits of actual info or new knowledge. This is how I feel rn, could be different tomorrow :catnope:

    All good points. I think this is what's happening:

    1. Always have thought everyone else has their shit together way more than I do. Looking at another person's creative space (like the photos in this thread) gives me visions of "fuck yeah this looks cool, I bet they make cool stuff with this, wish I could" even if it looks like a scruffy laptop on a bunch of stained pizza boxes. I think this works the same way with looking at others' creative processes and workflows - everything looks cool from the sidelines.
    2. I do this thing where instead of getting the precise same gear that is demoed, I get a used piece of gear that I convince myself "could do the trick if I spent enough time with it". This turns out bad for two reasons mostly: first, the bargain bin alternative does not "do the trick" because who reads stuff carefully anyways, and - more importantly - I actually end up not spending enough time with it. 
    3. I actually end up making lush stuff and I enjoy playing around with my new gear. Even if the initial joy and euphoria fades out, I do occasionally end up with nice accidental surprises and all that. I think it's just not possible as a part time hobbyist to spend enough time tinkering and doing in order to discover all the cool tricks and knob moves so it eventually happens that you see someone making absolute magic with similar gear and you go home crying thinking "I could have been like that". But maybe it's just that he discovered one magical path in the lush forest and you are on another, equally magical path that maybe looks shit to you but not to your audience.

    Also yeah my expectations are high and I need to work harder, and read the god damned manuals.

    PS my original post wasn't really 100% serious but I needed to let it out and motivate myself to play more with my existing stuff.

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    [New BEHRINGER Products]

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    11 hours ago, chim said:

    He's an idiot, making all those demands and asking up to 15% for essentially a name tag... Don't you guys watch Dragon's Den?

    I thought the guy.. uhh.. also designed and is actively producing the mod. Behringer gets to win this one basically because it's too expensive for DevilFish to patent and trademark it properly and sue Uli. And 15% happens only after 10k units, which is a lot actually.

    And if that 15k is australian dollars.. you probably can't even buy a soda bottle with that amount, right?

    Incredible dick moves from big B.

    Studio Pics

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    Why is it always that gear in demos and anyone else's hands sounds lush and interesting as hell, and when I get the same piece of kit, then the sounds turn bland, it becomes uninspiring and boring? This is extremely depressing!

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    [New BEHRINGER Products]

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    13 minutes ago, modey said:

    Well, it's not an exact copy of the 909 PCB. I can't remember where I saw it, but one of the Behringer clones is a direct copy of another PCB that is still on the market. 

    Yeah I guess the Nava guys probably modified theirs, but it is still meant to be a copy of the original.

    I figure Behringer can just make a carbon copy as they can just source everything by themselves even if some components would be otherwise too expensive to attain.

    [New BEHRINGER Products]

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    17 minutes ago, auxien said:

    the problem is that Behringer aren’t doing anything for the love of music or musicians or trying to innovate the tools those people are using, it’s that they’re trying to just make money and that’s it. they don’t give a fuck, it’s pure commodity. 

    Yeah that's sort of it, there is nothing "special" going on, it's just business, no passion no nothing.

    BUT who cares? You get a synth and it's a tool for you to do whatever. Companies that make drawing paper don't really give much of a damn about the art either, but what they do is provide a hugely industrialized process that lowers the €€€ barriers of entry for artists.

    It's kind of a new playing field when you are not so much dependent on what ancient legendary synth you can get your hands on, but rather what new innovative things you can do. I don't really like this consumerism of more physical stuff being made each year, but you can not really escape the fact that it's sort of changing the game and making it easier than before to become a DAWless hardware artist.

    Just need to grow past the stage of endless acid jams...

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    [New BEHRINGER Products]

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    On one hand good on Behringer for making these things affordable and grabbing these unused trademarks and designs and making use of them.

    On the other hand this situation is getting extremely weird in a way I can not describe. It's not like they are launching just 1-2 clones.. they are launching ALL the clones. I suppose it makes sense to do it all at once so the original makers of those things are caught on their ass instead of having time to react properly and reclaim the trademarks.

    [New BEHRINGER Products]

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    36 minutes ago, 714681746476436 said:

    Why? I’m not sure what this implies. 
     

    I run a reasonable little studio and I was SICK to death of servicing and fixing my antique hardware. I bought a single Behringer Model D as a gamble and thought it sounded amazing. Then a sought out all their analogue pedals. As long as they keep up the quality and classic circuit design I’ll keep buying. 
     

    I am an electrical design engineer by day, specifically design for manufacture and honestly the new Behringer stuff blows me away for the value. I know they won’t be replacing my PolySix at any point, but for the simple mono synths, there’s no looking back for me. 

    I meant this as a joke, as this whole thread (even the forum and the world in general) is highly distrustful of Behringer as a quality brand that you actually want in a studio at all. ?

    I mean, after 4 pages of this thread, suddenly appears a new user, who:

    1. has a number as a username (this means it's an automated spam bot, right??)
    2. suspiciously claims to own not one or two, but TWENTY THREE pieces of Behringer gear
    3. seems not to have terrible grammar and actually knows what they are talking about; demonstrably has thought a bit before buying, so their purchasing decisions make sense

     

    Anyways, welcome to WATMM!

    [New BEHRINGER Products]

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    10 minutes ago, 714681746476436 said:

    I love this Behringer stuff. I've got 3 of their synths, and around 20 pedals. All of which sound great, are cheap, have good work flow. I don't want to have a studio full of Behringer gear, but if they keep putting out this quality, I certainly will do.

    Sorry, I do not believe that you are a real person. ?

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    the watmm GAS thread

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    13 minutes ago, chim said:

    Looking at some fancier Epiphone LP's and they're about 70% of the cheaper Gibsons. Is there a big difference?

    Short answer: if you are asking this question, then you won't probably care about the difference. Stickfigger's post has the long answer. ?

    I would say go to the store and buy a guitar that sounds good to you and is nice to play. In the end what matters most is whether the instrument gets your creativity going and you can do the things you want with it.

    [New BEHRINGER Products]

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    Might be because when you search for "System 100" it will now return both Roland and Behringer.

    All this new gear in these last few days is giving me the dizzies. ?

    Incredible though how companies can spend that much on new hardware nowadays. Production costs must be way down.

    the watmm GAS thread

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    I like the idea of the Arturia Keystep, unfortunately I never got a real chance to try it out. Not going to buy one either because my desk is full of gear "I swear I will integrate to the setup one day" and currently having quite a good time exploring stuff in Pure Data which is FREE and ACTUALLY QUITE GOOD.

    your weekly thawkins

    in Your Latest Creations

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    Two things (kind of) this week:

    1. I finally started paying for the unlimited plan on soundcloud, so now I can upload all the stuff without worrying about file sizes and time limits (not sure if that is a good thing)

    Here's another generative krautrock jam - this time less generative, but more mellow as I used the sounds off the Roland XV-5080 instead of VSTs like last week.

    https://weeklybeats.com/thawkins/music/sat-11-jan

    2. The longer, less cut version of last week's generative jam.

     

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